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@Forza21 I am struggeling right now trying to comprehend how other people are empty suit and only my POV is all there is. Can you help explaining how I am doing it? Where is your POV? Are there are infinite dreams happening at same time?

@justfortoday Actually you confused me more. All leo taught that - 1. Their is infinite consciousness that exist. And that infinite consciousness is me imagining my human body. 2. This consciosness is all that exist. It dreams up my body and other humans. 3. Right now I as ( GOD) imagining my body and other human beings . But I am not aware as I am imagining limits on myself. You said I am not imagining other people in my consciousness field. They are just empty bodies with not thoughts. You are trying to explain the reason as if GOD is imagining lives in sequence manner not one go. I can recall your other post where you said GOD jumped from one character to another and lived each life separately sequentially. But you are limiting GOD only by saying GOD is dreaming one life at a time. Why cant GOD dream everything up simulatenously? Is GOD limited that he will dream in sequence one by one?

@justfortoday Could be more elaborate what you really mean by when you say I am not imagining the physical universe? Could you be more elaborate what do you mean when you say when I close my eyes this dark field is what it is and is screen of consciousness? when I close my eyes I see blackness. But how does this blackness makes it infinite? and where is objects such as walls and chair appearing? If I am not the walls or chair. Right now it is sounding to me as if you are saying my consciousness is limited till my head . When I close my eyes I see this limited dark field. In this world appears. But you didnt mentioned what this dark field is? Is it consciousness? And second thing why I as GOD cant dream other people thoughts simulataneously just at one go. Not sequentially.

@Leo Gura Thanks leo you replied. Can you clarify whether I as God ( not my ego identity) from absolute perspective imagining every human being including my parents inside my consciousness or mind? justfortoday is saying GOD is limited and has to imagine lives separately and in sequence manner . He cant imagine it all simulataneously at one go. He is imposing limit on god. He is saying infinity doesnt exist. How absurd it is to say infinite consciousness doesnt exist.

@justfortoday By saying that infinity doesnf exist you are negating teaching of every single spiritual teacher even LEOs whole teaching videos. Are you even serious ? If I am not imagining the universe then who is imagining it for me? Some God sitting in sky? You are contradicting yourself everytime. sometimes you say I am imagining every human being in my consciousnes/ God mind other time you say I am not imagining their thoughts and experiences. What are you trying to even say? Who is imagining matter then? IF I am not . All you want to say I am not GOD.

@Vincent S You are trying to potray as if outside is seprate from me right now. Their is no separation between GOD Head and Me. I am God head imagining my body as vehicle to play the game of life. Then I imagined limitation on myself so that I can forget that I am imagining every other human being and their experiences right now. Can you explain what you trying to say in more simple terms rather than using mirror analogy? For example- Right now I am aware as human . Feeling separate from my parents. But in reality I am not human but infinity itself imagining my parents and every possible living being in reality including my human body. Am I correct?

I Know that consciousness is One. And God Is one . And its me. But the thing you are confusing me is by saying other people are not imagined by me. They are just empty bodies appearing just like in dream. Do you think leo is saying all wrong by saying I am imagining other people human mind and their thoughts.? Just check this post comments what leo replied when I asked him whether other people thoughts are imagined by me. He said YES. Do you think he is fooling us? And why will I experience other character life one day? Is events are happening in sequence manner? Is infinite consciousness limited that it will imaginein sequential manner not simultaneously? What are you smoking man? You are limiting GOD .

@Inliytened1 No just check this original post comments . I asked leo whether I am imagining other people's mind. He said yes . I am not talking about Leo's Radical implication video. He said many times that you are imagining every human being in existence in your consciousness including their experiences and mind. Do you think LEO is fooling us? I know I am GOD. But you are saying is right now I am alone that exist as human and other humans including you are empty bodies with no thoughts . If they are empty bodies who is dreaming their thoughts? Tell me? All I was asking whether I am imagining other people thoughts and their bodies simulataneously as infinite Mind. But is unaware because I am self imposing imaginery limits on myself.

@Inliytened1 But you said I am not doing it simultaneously as GOD mind. As leo said several times I am imagining thoughts of other people right now including their body. I was just saying same what leo told. That I am as ( GOD ) imagining every experiences simultaneously without any time. Its like infinite possibilities imagined by me as GOD but to avoid knowing what I am doing I tricked myself by self imposing imaginery limits on myself , so that I cannot know I am imagining every single thing in the reality at one go . Correct?

Leo, I think you should put your work on your youtube channel. By making a radical course and putting a price tag on it , you not only abandoning serious spiritual seekers but also making hard for anyone accessing it. Recently you have taken down the solipsism video which I didnt got chance to even view it. I am your old follower and following you since a long time. The pointers in the video helps in spiritual journey. You should have atleast uploaded it on your blog if not on youtube. Please stay away from putting price tag by making new course because all serious people cannot be able to afford it. You should continue on your youtube channel . And make strict warning for everyone before any video . I dont know why but I feel your work must be free and access to everybody.

@Inliytened1 I understand this fact. But what you are trying to make a point as if GOD is living life in sequence manner one at a time. For example- 1. God choose my life and incarnated as me and started imagining other people . 2. God then proceed to inlytened1 life and started imagining other people while you are only true thing that exist others are fake. You are trying to potray as if infinite consciousness is limited so it has to do this sequence manner not simultaneously. When I say I am GOD I mean I am imagining other people mind too. As leo already mentioned. Yes GOD is one and cannot be multiple. But what I am saying is that I imagined limitation on myself so that I can hide the fact I am imagining every other human being and their mind. I am tricking myself into the illusion by self imposing imaginery limitation so that I cannot know I am the walls and I am all the objects in my vision field.

@Inliytened1 One user (justfortoday) was explaining how this all works. He said GOD first created this world and every character and then jumped one by one in each character life. He even said my life is replay happening. That means GOD first imagined it then second time living it . This made me confused. The user confused me more. Why cant I as GOD not imagine everybody simulatenously and live their life at the same time. For example- Right now I am imagining my human body. I am imagining other people too in my vision field. I am imagining them walking and talking to me. As I imagining them I am living through them too. Am I correct?

@Leo Gura But when I dreamed last night all characters didnt existed when I woke up, because they were unreal. In that dream until I was dreaming I was thinking them to be real. But when I wake up I realize I was imagining other people and they never existed. This fact, is confirmed in many NDEs. I can recall few NDEs where it was shown earth was imaginery and never existed nor people I have interacted with.

@Leo Gura Am I imagining other people thoughts too? Am I imagining other people just like my own human body simulatenously? Is it happening simulatenously or non-concurrently?

You actually made me fall into illusion more deeply by your explanation that I am not simulatenously imagining other people too. And this is not happening simulataneously by me in my infinite consciousness. This feels like others are having independent existence apart from me. Could you clarify ~ 1. If I am all alone right now that only exist who is imagining other people including my parents, all sentient being and everything that exist ? Just like a dream? 2. What do you mean by mind. Do you imply infinite field of consciousness that is projected from my head and that stretched to infinite that is imagining everything including my own body too? Am I imagining every other being including their thoughts, and their human body ? I mean I as GOD ( not my ego self) is imagining my body plus imagining other people too. And their existence depend upon my imagination?

@Inliytened1 So you mean I am only thing that exist in entire universe that is imagining my parents, friends, and every sentient being? Just like a dream?

@Inliytened1 It all makes sense but some other guy was saying " no two lifetimes are happening concurrently". Isnt it absurd to say this? He even said that when I am living this life time as GOD all other people are empty suit dreamed up GOD at the time of creation. Actually what he was trying to explain that God first dreamed up empty suits and then jumped to characters one at a time . For example, in my current experience other people are just empty suit imagined by me . And when I as GOD die I will live another character which was empty suit in my previous life time. Isnt it all sound absurd? Some things to clarify~ 1. Whether in my own consciousness I am dreaming up all lifes simulatenously . 2. There are infinite number of beings in universe ; I am imagining their experiences too in this lifetime simulatenously.

@Inliytened1 Ok I get that I am imagining everything including my own body too. I am having this experience. Time is imaginery too. Even Past and future is imaginery. But from absolute perspective I as GOD ( not my ego self ) is imagining other people experiences too in my own conciousness field . For ex~ 1. I am right now imagining my friend sitting on chair. I am imagining his body , his clothes , his thoughts etc in my own infinite consciousness. Is this what you mean? 2. I as GOD ( not my ego self ) imagining my human body too including as it appears in my own consciousness ? 3. I am living other people too through them as they are imagined by me simultaneously . Is this what you mean? Just like in last night dream I was dreaming other people in the same way in waking reality do I am dreaming up everybody and dreaming their thoughts and experiences in my consciousness too? Please clarify this it will help me alot. Am I confused on replay thing justforplay said that my life is happening two times. This confused me . Also he said one day I will live other character lives too. What does it even mean? Why cant god live simulatenously all lives together as consciousness is one and is imagining each and everything simultaneously?

@Inliytened1 You are not getting what justfortoday explained in his original post. He is saying GOD is having one person experience one at a time not simultaneously. Read his last 8th point on life as replay. Do my life is happening two times ? First god imagined my life and then he is replaying the movie or dream? How absurd it is to even say this. Justfortoday is saying I as God will incarnate as every character next time and what I am experiencing right now as other human being are just empty suits. I mean that is right from my absolute perspective of GOD ( not ego identity). But he is saying others experiences are not imagined by me simulatenously just like I as GOD ( not ego self) imagining my own body. This is confusing. Isnt I as GOD ( not ego identity) imagining everybody in my own consciousness which is infinite even my own body? He said " my mind is imagining others " but isnt mind is limited to brain? What exactly he mean when he says mind ? My human mind or my infinite mind ( infinite consciousness)? Please clarify this.

@Terell Kirby What about all those who cant afford?

@The Lucid Dreamer Yes, Same here. He is implying GOD is having experience one by one . Not simultaneously .One dream at a time. Which is absurd to say. In other people's pyschedelic experiences it was shown GOD is living all lives simulataneously. Not one by one. Its like I as GOD imagined limitation on myself so that I cannot realize that I am imagining every other human being and their experience in my consciousness field ( which is infinite and goes to infinity ) .

@justfortoday You lost us on "God decided to JUMP in and live each possible lifetime and each possible character, from the first person perspective." Are you saying God is living one lifetime one by one not simultaneously? Please clarify this . You said " "My" life and "your" life are non concurrent — they are not simultaneous experiences. " Isnt it sound absurd to say that God is having one person experience only? What about infinite number of other people experiences? From the Absolute perspective me as GOD ( not ego my identity ) is imagining every other being and everything in my own consciousness which is infinite and is not limited to my own visual field and extend in all directions till infinity dreaming up every being in it. What you told sounds like saying my consciousness ( GOD ) is limited till my brain or head and that area is imagining every other being possible . Isnt this limit conscious ess to just my imaginery brain? Consciousness field is infinite and it extends in all directions. What you told above sounds like my conciousness exist only in my head . This makes consciousness finite and limited. As you know consciousness is infinite field . So it cant be just be restricted to my body. Am I misunderstanding something ? Arent you wanna say that consciousness is imagining my body and it extends till infinite and imagining other people too in it ? Last life is not a replay. All is happening in now. To say life is replay means I dont have any free will. It means life happened two times. Which donot makes any sense.

I am tired of people believing that he is god and at the same time other people exist. I feel leo should be more clear on this as this is main thing to liberate everyone. If others are figment of my imagination this imply others are imaginery and fictional just like a dream . Yes ofcourse that includes my ego identity too. I am not saying I as human exist. I am implying my body is imaginery too. This is cleared in many NDEs that this world is mere a mirage or dream. I have read several NDEs in which it is shown how earth never existed , how your mother and father never existed . Its all joke which you are imagining on yourself. I feel this is main thing which LEO must clear because this leads to liberation. Whole game of enlightenment / spirituality is pointless if you say others exist and have separate independent existence. This lead to attachments. If I am GOD and GOD is ONE that means other people must be imagination of my mind and are fictional. That includes my ego self . When it was asked from Ramana Maharshi that how do we treat others he replied " Others donot exist ". I am yet to feel liberated because I constantly thinks others are real . Whole point of enlightenment is liberation and non attachment. How can you say " You are God " yet at the same time say " I am God too" . This is duality. In Advanced God Realization Leo said " others are figment of his imagination and he is imagining others." That means others donot exist and others existence depend on LEO ( GOD ) . Several questions I have who say solipsism is not real and somehow want to believe other exist to satisfy their ego~ 1. How can anything exist ? How can atom exist? You must be imagining an atom in order it to exist. In the same way how can your mother , father and friends exist ? You must be imagining others as GOD? Without your imagination others cease to exist. 2. How will you defend NDEs and Psychedelic trips where it is clearly shown your whole story was fictional and you are only thing that ever existed ? I can show several high quality NDEs were earth disappeared and this world too. It was shown how you only existed who was imagining the whole dream including your birth, your friends , earth etc. 3. I have read a user of psychedelic who gone mad on DMT as he saw others donot exist and was admitted to mental hospital to get treated. He saw he was alone .

@Mason Riggle Yes ofcourse I know I am others. But I was asking how I am dreaming up other people? And you said "GOD is not imagining". If God is not imagining my body and other people and this world then how come everything is being existed? You mean this world is physical ? Made up of atoms? Or imaginery? You are confusing me with word game here. Why dont you simply say I am GOD not human , who is all alone as he is dreaming every one including my human body. Your words sounds like you are trying to say GOD is something other from me .

@Mason Riggle Why are you confusing me? when I say others are imaginery I mean they are imagination of GOD i.e Me . Who is imagining my body and all other people simultaneously. can you clarify this?