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@Adamq8 Neuro Science is still in infancy to understand the working of brain. But it doesn't mean we will not understand its working in next 1000 years. Its like science is not mature enough to understand complex working of neurons which generate experience (Scientist point of explanation not mine). I feel consciousness is prior to every material thing. But scientist say that consciousness is produced by brain due to complex neural networking. So how can we be soo sure that feeling like INFINITE LOVE that we feel in breakthrough trips is merely due to surge of dopamine in brain. For example Orgasms.

@Leo Gura But how can be soo sure that the love we experience in breakthrough trips is mere dopamine surge in brain which we are saying its god's love? Our brain is very powerful and is capable of producing wide varieties of feelings and experiences through chemicals.

What does infinite love feels like when people say God is infinite love. ? When people have breakthroughs using psychedelic they save its all love . How does love feel like ? Is it feeling? Is it just chemicals in the brain when we take psychedelic ?

Leo, I had been following you since a long time. I had years and years of work in spirituality and enlightenment. I admire you alot and had been watching your videos since a long time. I used to admire your non religious nature and how you separate dogmatic religions from spirituality. But recently in your DPT forums you claimed some far fetched stuff. Like~ 1. How Jesus was not human and miracles he did like walking on water, converting water into wine etc are real and can everybody can do it using accessing some Psychedelic and reaching some non dual states of consciousness defying all the rules of nature , chemistry , biology or science. 2. By reaching those high states of consciousness using DPT or 5 Meo DMT you can grow tentacles replacing your hands by shear tapping into God Head as Reality is imaginary and other person is able to see your tentacles in real waking reality. 3. You can materialize stone out of thin air . ( As reality is imaginary). 4. By tapping into infinite state of consciousness and reaching such high states you can heal every body on earth by imagining healing thereby defying all the rules and regulations made by god and defying whole framework upon god made reality using principle of dualism. etc Now you are claiming Jesus miracles such as walking on water , converting water into wine etc are real are not myths. That means you are claiming whole Christianity is true. Because anyone can do such stuff by raising your consciousness. Now see we are again back to dogmatic religions. Religions and their claims are true that means. Even their scriptures are true ! Secondly how can you replace your hands with tentacles since even we replace our organ with other people our biology immediately rejects it. And here we are talking about animal body parts. Which have different DNA . Scientifically it is impossible. Rules of nature does not allow it. Now anyone one will claim as reality is imaginary you are imagining all the the laws and limiting yourself. But see there has to be some boundary ?? You cant tap into infinite state of consciousness and defy biology and we know even if we replace some body party how our immune system immediately rejects it. See how deeply intelligently everything is interwoven. How all laws are working to run this reality. Thirdly you claimed in one of your forums that you can materialize stone out of thin air?? (As reality is imaginary). That means we can materialize unlimited food, unlimited water simply by tapping into infinite states of consciousness using Psychedelics and then solving every world problems of hunger , poverty and crisis. Why waste time developing technology when we can simply materialize everything out of thin air as Reality is Imaginary ? Why study science and why work hard 24x7 when we can simply use psychedelic and reach into infinite states of consciousness and manipulate reality according to our needs? All I am want to say that their are some laws under which dream reality is working and we are confined to it. We can heal ourself its been already proven again and again . And done by different people across the world. Even yogis can heal their body's through yoga and pranayama and diet. But why claim that you can tap into infinite states of consciousness and imagine healing of everybody on earth as reality is mere imaginary and all are ONE thereby defying all working of natural laws ? You can heal your body but can you heal entire people of earth using just shear imagination? All I am saying you are making reality meaningless. If GOD is infinitely intelligent then reality has to be perfect otherwise he is not infinitely intelligent. All the framework and structure of REALITY is built upon dualism. Which can be mere illusion but still nature laws operate. Its clearly evident .

Ellaborate what do you mean boundary and rules are necessary in this game we call LIFE. And why this dream would collapse ? You are saying everything is pure love. How can anybody's suffering be love for GOD? People are suffering all over the world. Such bad things bad things happen with good people. And you are saying god loves everything? Rapes, murder, torture God loves it also? You even dont know how my heart melts in seeing soo much suffering in world and you claim by smoking pschedelic that everything is love . What is this? Isnt their is some reason like Karma which decides people birth? Why do some people born in good conditions and other struggle for even food in slums? Corruption is on the top level all around the world and everything is corrupted right from politics to food industry . And you call god loves the suffering of people?

Yes we do materialize but as GOD HEAD . As INFINITY as WHOLE. not EGO human beings. Why are you confusing my words with Infinite god head who is running all the show.? You dodge my questions by simply introducing the concept of INFINITE WHOLE. I am talking here can we as INDIVIDUAL SELF can turn mountain into gold using meditation or psychedelic infront of 7.5 billion people on earth and everybody witnessing how you defy all the laws of nature made by WHOLE .

@Heart of Space See you yourself are confusing with normal waking conscious reality and higher states of consciousness. My point was if by doing intense meditation, taking psychedelic could transform you into GOD HEAD and thereby changing your own reality which is based upon laws created by you itself which has infinite design in it. This makes it simply magic. Not intelligence. I am more into believing that god (we) does limit of what it can do in reality. You are hell bent in believing that you can even turn mountain into gold by imagination and everbody around you will see it in normal waking consciousness. So why do all spiritual masters say " God Limit itself to experience what we call life ". If we simply can do magic by taking drugs and reach radical states of consciousness then why we are even wasting our time on technology. Why are wasting our time on study natural science ? The smartphone, computer you are using is build by scientist who worked day and night to invent this thing we called technology . You youself rely on your smartphone made by them . So why dont you simply materialize smartphones, computers etc by doing meditation work , psychedelic ?

I am already meditating for many years and cant still materialize things out of thin air while everybody is infront of me.

@SpiritualAwakening Would like to hear your claim. Tell me.

@Ryan R I admit you saw fairies on pyschedelic trip. Pyschedelic lets you to access higher dimensions of the universe. How can you be soo sure that these fairies exist on earth and not just living in other higher dimension which you tapped into by raising your consciousness?

@SpiritualAwakening @Heart of Space That the point you can only claim. You can even claim that by reaching such high degrees of consciousness using psychedelic that we can wipe out air from earth, kill other people, incinerate other people etc. Because reality is imaginary.

@SpiritualAwakening That was for heart of space not for you. He thinks people can do anything in reality and bends reality according to their needs and defy everything. Why will a infinite intelligence will design a reality where there is no laws and everything can do magic by materializing everything .

@Heart of Space So you believe you can turn mountains into gold because reality is imaginary? You can do whatever you please. Where is the infinite intelligence then in the design? When their is no laws . You are doing reality bending stuff.

What type of drugs you use to believe such far fetched claims? I want to smoke such drugs . Pissing on a rock and turning it to gold. Seriously? Converted a portion of mountain into GOLD? seriously? Materializing food from thin air? Why dont he solved the world hunger crisis when every day thousands of children dies in his own country ? Why he has not solved the world problems of non-renewable natural resources and scarcity of water by just materializing everything? His country alone is living in extreme poverty and everyday millions of people in INDIA goes to sleep hungary. Why he hasn't materialized everything defying the laws of reality under which he was operating?

@Heart of Space I am not a materialistic . Why dont you say you can wipe out air from earth by shear accessing such degrees of consciousness that other people on earth dies? why dont you say you can transform water into fire? why dont you say you can teleport to moon with your body by accessing such states of consciousness and going back to earth while still in your body? This reality operates under laws of natures which operate upon itself. Have you ever seen someone materializing something out of thin air while everybody around them witnessing them?

No, I am not a materialistic. I know telepathy exist in the premise of consciousness. But the thing which he claiming is too far fetched. For example on one point LEO says GOD limits us so that we can have this experience called life. On other hand he says in his forum that you can materialize anything out of thin air by accessing radical super human levels of consciousness. What to believe now? If we can twist and change the rules of nature that too when the same rules are applying on every single being living in universe then where is the concept of limit ? If we can do anything we desire then we dont need technology and we dont need to study sciences then. We all should start using psychedelics like DPT and access such high degrees of consciousness and make the life of our dream.

@SpiritualAwakening OK then go and try materializing stones out of thin air and record a video for us. Fly in air as reality is imaginary. Change laws of this reality made by god (You/ME ) by converting water into wine thereby defying chemistry laws upon which our whole reality is based. walk on water as water is imaginary too.

You are not understanding. I was asking by reaching super high levels of non dual consciousness can we materialize dinosaur into this reality and everybody will see it in waking reality. Whether we can convert our half our body into animal body by reaching radical states of consciousness and everybody on earth in this dimension will see it by defying all laws of nature, biology, chemistry or science. Whether we can convert water into wine by reaching those radical non dual states of consciousness and everybody on earth will see it .

I am talking about whether 7.5 billion people on earth will see it. Whether whole reality will change.

@Leo Gura Thats what I was asking whether other people will see it or not. And you claimed in forum that you can materialize stone out of thin air and everyone will be able to see that in normal waking reality. Those radical states can be achieved only using Pyschedelic such as 5 MEO DMT or DPT . And they are short term effects. Once you get down to your normal waking consciousness reality stone will be not there . Its all happening in mind.

So why make such radical claims then? Now you are saying we need 1000 years of scientific research to prove any siddhis. You previously stated all the limits are imaginary and everything imagination. And we can do anything by accessing super human levels of NON DUAL consciousness. For ex- If we accessed such radical super human states of consciousness and changed the water into wine will other people will see it as wine? Isnt other people are still having EGO . If one person trancends his EGO SELF and somehow accessed Radical states of non dual consciousness will turning all the ocean of water in the world into wine will make it appear as ocean of wine for all the 7.5 billion people of earth. ?

Thanks for replying. Could you explain how much effort it is required to just attain ability like reading minds, telekinisis , telepathy etc? I mean what is the procedure to attain it? How much years it requires? Can any human being attain such super human abilties to read minds of others using meditation ? How tough is to hold such abilities ? Do we have to take psychedelic constantly or be in meditate state most of your time? As our ego self will kick in as soon as we stop doing meditation.

@Michal__ How can we have siddhis? By meditating non stop for years? or by taking psychedelic like DPT? And how much effort is required to convert water into wine in normal waking reality ? And does rules of chemistry permit it? think logically.

So what in your opinion whats possible in this waking reality to be achieved by siddhis? Without destroying all the rules of physics, chemistry , biology or science under which waking reality is predicated upon. You can have telepathy, telekinesis, OBE's , insane levels of concentration, control over mind/ body , mind reading, leaving physical body and travelling astral realms,etc etc. But whats the limit? Obviously god (We) built limits of what we can achieve as a human to have experience what we call life. Otherwise we would be twisting the laws of nature. As everything is interconnected with each other . And everything is made by infinite intelligence . Changing one facet will break down whole structure of reality and distort all laws under which our universe operate. Whats the limit to siddhis you are mentioning? Where to put boundary of what we can do without distorting laws of nature for every single being on earth as rules are same for 7.5 billion people. You said reality is dream and dinasaur is created by you using imagination inside mind. And their is no difference in outside and inside as everything is one mind. So, why cant we materialize dinasaur in in this waking dream we call reality? Religions claim that they can convert their human body into size of atom and can be back again in normal human size. Do you seriously think this is even possible to convert your whole human body into a size of atom and back to normal size again without using advanced technology by using just siddhis. But religions claim that.

@Blackhawk Here is DPT forum.