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machiavelli replied to machiavelli's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Ananta But how can I verify whether anything is true or not? Leo says soul doesnt exist only consciousness exist. He even explained in his psychedelic trip how consciousness is constructing his body . But when I read about vedanta and all those religious stuff they never say consciousness is same as soul/ atman. Who is imagining the body ? Is it soul or consciousness? -
machiavelli replied to Eternal Unity's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Eternal Unity Have you talked with Mother Gaia spirit? Is this real ?? How are you talking to spirit guide? -
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@Shin It is important because several important questions is left unanswered because of it. Is there a karmic debt attached to souls? If karma is true than it means there is judgement after we die. Because conditions in which we will born in next life depends on our karma. -
machiavelli replied to machiavelli's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Ananta His explanation of it makes soul sound separate from consciousness . Like soul is something separate from consciousness which has its own memory imprints and personality called ego. But what Leo has taught us that Soul /atman do not exist and is illusion. And their is no karmic debt. Everything is love and their is no judgement after death . Which contradicts religious teachings of buddhism and hinduism . Which advocate that their is karmic debt attached to each soul and after a person die they get judged and their next life conditions are based upon their karma. So isnt it all means there is judgement after we die? Again as per your explanation soul which is portion of brahman is within subtle and gross body . This implies consciousness and subtle and gross body are completely separate . Who is generating the gross body and subtle body? -
machiavelli replied to machiavelli's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@AtheisticNonduality What do you mean? Whom Shall I believe? Leo teaches something else and NDE'rs say something else. On on hand NDE'rs , OBEs , Astral Projections etc on other hand pyschedelics and experience of NON -Duality. Some are saying Soul does not exist. Some are saying soul do exist and is inside body. What do you mean by inside body? Is soul is separate from body ? --> means dualism . Means our body is not a projection of consciousness. It is separate from atma/soul. This thing has shattered by whole paradigm of Non-Dualism. And nobody is able to give satisfactory answers to why soul exist separate from body when body is mere thought in the consciousness?? -
machiavelli replied to machiavelli's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@The0Self But reincarnation is proved to be true. There are some documented cases of people across the world where people can remember their past lifes on earth. Some claim that they were born on other planets light years far from us. The whole notion of atma triggers duality . As soon as soul/atman exist then it implies it exist separate from body and is located somewhere in body. Otherwise what is that leaves the body during death of physical body? If soul exist then it means that whole notion of our body is Mind or consciousness is wrong. And we cant have influence on our body. As body and soul are different. -
machiavelli replied to machiavelli's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Dodo Their has been a debate going on for a long time. Buddhist believe there is no individualized self, even though many posit that there is reincarnation. They offer no explanation as to what is being reincarnated. Vedanta believes that the self is not what you think it is but there is an individualized self called the Atman. What happens to the Atman when we die is debated within Vedanta. Whats your view on reincarnation then? What is being reincarnated again and again if there is no soul? I still is not satisfied with explanation of soul. I can see everybody is giving different answers like they are clueless. If soul is inside the body than its changes the whole meaning of " OUR WHOLE BODY IS MIND/ CONSCIOUSNESS " thing. That means soul is different from consciousness. Why are people able to retain experience of their own personality after dying during their NDE if ego dissolves after death. Leo teaches that ego dissolves at the time of death. But NDEr's say something different. They say they have their memories intact and their individuality and ego. Which is contradiction to teachings of LEO. How could it be possible ego is surviving after death? -
machiavelli replied to machiavelli's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Dodo So you mean its exist separate from body? Why do it separate from body at the time of death? Its is documented several times during OBE's that consciousness survives the death of physical body . And it leave the physical body at the time of death. So how come our consciousness is imagining our body if atman is inside body and leaves the body at the time of death? It shows atman is separate from body. -
machiavelli replied to machiavelli's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What do you mean by lower form of awakening? And basic form of awakening? Leo says their is no atma . So who is true? -
machiavelli replied to machiavelli's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@BipolarGrowth Is it secondary to consciousness? Or is it consciousness itself? How will you explained where people have witness soul leaving the body at the time of death of physical body? People have witessed it throught their own eyes. If Atma/soul is what projects the body then is it possible that after the ceasation of consciousness at the time of death the body can be seen by other people on earth ? Isnt our soul is imagining the body at first place? And how will you explain people retaining their ego identity and their personality after they die during their near death experiences? -
machiavelli replied to machiavelli's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura How do you explain the cases where people retaining their individual ego identity after dieing and having near death experiences. After researching about hundreds of NDE and OBE's one thing is really sure these people retain their personality and ego after they die. Which is clearly contradictory to what people on psychedelic teach . Secondly how can you explain encounters with souls which are being seen by people by naked eye and is caught on films. Even ghost siting is very common. There is abundant proof of existence of souls which operate separate from body. People have even captured wandering souls stuck on this material realm. They are often confused whether they are alive or dead. So keeps wandering in material realm and has not crossed into Light yet. Is this all illusion created by atma? You say their is no atma. But Hinduism and Buddhism both advocate the belief in atma which separates body at the time of death. I myself witness many cases where people have witness soul leaving the body and floating above the physical body just after death of a person. How it is possible that NDErs retain ego identity after they die? Is soul is what that produce EGO? Have you ever pondered over this thought? Maybe Soul is what is responsible for EGO and after we die we retain our EGO identity as EGO/atma survives the death of physical body. Secondly you say their is only consciousness and consciousness projects the body. But why do after ceasation of consciousness at the tiime of death the body also disappears for others? As our body is also imagination of consciousness. Thirdly their is major belief in hinduism and Buddhism that our atma is subjected to cycle of birth and death according to karmic ties which our atma /soul is bounded with. Soul gets born again and again in this samsara until all the karmic debt is empty. What is your belief on this? -
I am pursuing enlightenment since many years. And I often feel the urge to post on my facebook account that Life is a dream in infinite mind of god, You are God, There is no others etc Post like that. I posted many times enlightenment sayings such as of ramana maharshi , Allan Watts, Muktananada, Ram Das, Adyashanti etc. Now people have stopped liking my post . I have witness people are not liking my post more as compared to previous. They think I am strange and weird. And after suicide of that person on this forum , it concern me whether I am doing even something right by posting on timeline that you are God, There is no others etc. And other enlightenment sayings. Most of my friends on facebook are very religious. And worship gods. And I am highly spiritually and into enlightenment. And several times felt urge to post such things on my facebook . Is this my EGO that is posting such posts . As I am showing off look guys I am into spirituality. Can it harm other people by discovering the TRUTH?? As most of the people are religious and worship gods . And have full faith in their religious. I sometimes feel urge to write Truth on facebook Publicly .
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machiavelli replied to machiavelli's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@BipolarGrowth I wrote once " God is mothingness " in my facebook post . And I havent recieved a like. Most of my friend circle is religious. They worship many gods. Idea of God is You seems threatening to their belief in their god sitting in sky. Now my likes on normal post got reduced too. Dont know why. I post political post alot too. -
machiavelli replied to machiavelli's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Roy I feel I am addicted to Facebook. I check facebook atmost 25 times a day. I have posted that God is nothingness on facebook post . And my post haven't recieved a like. I still feel urge to post . But this is damaging to my social life. People think I am weird. My likes has decreased now. For normal post too I receive less likes as compared to previous. My intention is only to enlighten people. But they are very religious. -
machiavelli replied to machiavelli's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@BipolarGrowth I feel the urge to post radical Truths on facebook . I have several times posted TRUTH on my timeline which have more than 100 of college friends and professor of my college and teachers. Who are not into spirituality and most of them are very religious. Now my likes have decreased since then. I feel they think I am weird. I feel I should post radical TRUTH on Social Media to help other people . To set them into the path of enlightenment . But they are religious. And cant even think beyond their religion. So I am confused whether to post radical stuff on facebook or not? Should I be posting? -
machiavelli replied to machiavelli's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Understander I dont know I often feel the urge out of lonliness to post TRUTH on Facebook. And I have done it several times. But after the suicide of one person on this forum , I wonder whether posting radical think can trigger depression . What if they find the truth and started believing it and went to depression ? They will probably brush off my post as they are religious. In fact most of them dont even like my enlightenment post. Now my likes has decreased since then. Like volume has decreased since I started opening myself up more. I want to clear that most of my friends on facebook are religious and worship their gods. -
machiavelli replied to herghly's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura Can you tell me if it is possible for anybody to turn ON/OFF lights using meditation or doing yoga? You say meditation and yoga is nothing as compared to states we reach on psychedelics. Even if we do serious contemplation and yoga for decades. And also dont you feel the states you are talking about is extremely hard to reach. Is there any person who have reached such states of consciousness and done serious stuff that bend all laws of nature? Had he done it using meditation or Yoga? Can he sustain that consciousness state while being sober ? -
Hello, I was wondering about morality. Is right or wrong human construction? We are taught what to do , how to behave in society, How to think , How to treat other people since birth. But do you really think if I did something wrong than Karma will punish me? How is this reality even working? If everything equates to love. Everything is love. Then how reality even do justice? Have you ever wondered? I had been studying NDE's since a long time. And they also shows how our actions affect others . For example 40% of Nde'rs Experienced Life Review after their death. It was shown on panoramic screen every thing they did since birth , their words , their actions and how it affect others. It was shown from both the point of view of experiencer and other person at the same time. Like he reviews his past life on earth with everybody's perspective by becoming everybody at the same time. This was accompanied by the white light which runs all review infront of him. It is most painful experience of the NDE. Now you teach that every thing is love. Even if you rape or muder someone it is still love. Even if you did something wrong it is love. Then why their is soo difference in your teaching and one NDE shows after death of the person ? I am confused here. How can I liberate myself? If I even dont know if karmic justice exist or not. Just think for a second . If everything is love and their is no evil then how the heck is this reality running?
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What do you mean when people in psychedelic trip says God is beyond every form, sight, speech or thought? I have read many breakthrough trips and many of them says God is imagining mind, body and thoughts. That means everything done by me is done by GOD who is running this world? Every thought, action, speech is not made by me but GOD? What exactly people mean when they say God is formless , infinite , omniscient etc? Can infinite god be explained using finite image?
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machiavelli replied to machiavelli's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@The0Self What do you mean when you say god is murder, Love, Rape , Peace etc ? Is god is imagining when anyone gets rapes or he himself do it? Whats the difference ? Ellaborate please I am confused when leo says Self imagines everything. -
machiavelli replied to EntheogenTruthSeeker's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Thief King Mahasamadhi is state of dissolution of ego identity back to original infinite state. If leo claims that ultimate stage would end universe forever than what will happen to infinite beings who are living in different universes? That too dissolve or it is just merger of ego to Godhead? -
machiavelli replied to machiavelli's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Someone here Is God as consciousness imagining my self as ego identity? -
machiavelli replied to EntheogenTruthSeeker's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Regan Leo already said he experienced Infinity and become infinitely omniscient. But my question is can he tell the exact working of universe in those states and can bring some useful information back to human state? -
machiavelli replied to EntheogenTruthSeeker's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Isnt we are imagining that we reached end of rabbit hole too? -
machiavelli replied to machiavelli's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Regan That means we we can do anything? It doesnt matter to God? Why would God love someone murdering other?