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@Mason Riggle When you say I am everything it implies other people you see are figment of your imagination. Therefore , fictional. I am imagining my body and other people too. but how do you explain other people independent experience? How can they have their independent experience ? Isnt it duality? When I say other people are dreamed up by me that means their experiences are dreampt up by me too. But why it appears they are having their independent experience ?

@Forza21 I think LEO should clear this . If You are GOD and others are imagination of your mind that includes your ego self too. Then why other people have experiences . How does God imagines himself as Me having my own individual experiences and other having their own. This is duality. When We say I am GOD then it automatically implies other people are fictional imagined by GOD . But how will LEO explain other people experiences?

@Inliytened1 what do you mean you and me feels pain? Are you saying their are two GODs? Or I am imagining other people pain?

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@Leo Gura Please clarify how does other people have separate independent existence . Isnt it duality? Is it something I am imagining right now too so that I cannot realize I am GOD alone? Is it a trick I am playing on myself? @RMQualtrough

Thats not what I believe or not. Thats what Ultimate Truth is . You are thinking relatively. When you realize you are GOD , you realize other people are dreamed up by you and are fictional . God is One. You cant say I am GOD and I am having my own experience and You are GOD too having your own experience. This implies two GODs exist or simply duality. There are no two experiences. Its a duality.

@Nadosa I only care about truth. I dont care about solipsism.

@RMQualtrough I am talking from absolute perspective. There cant be many gods. God is One. What is the substance this world made up of ? Are you gonna say its made up of atoms or strings? Where do these atom came from if you are not imagining it? If I am GOD that means other people are fictional just like my own ego identity or self. i never said my ego self is real. What I meant was I as GOD is only real that is imagining other people and each and everything .

Thanks for response. But I was specifically asking about when I realize I am GOD and my body is imaginery does it also mean others are imaginery too? Imagined by me and their existence depend upon me as I as am GOD ? Without my ( GOD) imagination nothing can exist bec I am the only thing that exist in absolute persepective? Please clarify this.

@Leo Gura That means just like characters in dream are fictional and imagined by me. Other people too are imagined by me as GOD? Please clarify this. Do others existence depend upon GOD's imagination? For ex- My friends and family exist because I am dreaming them up as GOD that includes my ego identity?

@Leo Gura I have few questions please clarify my insights please. 1. Am I correct if this world is mere dream with no substance at all . And If I am GOD then other people are imagination of my mind? I am talking here from absolute perspective. 2. I want to clarify doubt regarding what others mean when they say others are having independent existence when you realize " You are GOD ". Am I unaware right now, that others people experience is dreamt up by me too as GOD? 3. Please clarify , in absolute perspective when I realize myself infinite . When I realize my body is imaginery . Do other people too are imagination of my ( GOD) mind and in absolute sense their existence depend on my ( GOD) imagination ?

Dont play word games here and tell stories. Just tell me if I am GOD then isnt other people figments of GODs imagination bec other people includes GOD too? I am talking here from absolute perspective not relative. When I say others are imaginery that includes my ego identity too .

@Dazgwny Can you tell me can others exist outside GOD ( Your) imagination? Do they have independent existence outside your imagination? If I am GOD doesnt it mean others are figment of my imagination? Otherwise their would be duality. In short GOD exist plus other human exist.

Thread is all about this only. Why cant you understand I am talking about non-duality in this thread. That how can other people exist when you are GOD ? Every duality must collapse in order for GOD to exist. What I was asking in original post that LEO must be more clear on "others donot exist " as saying I AM GOD and at the same time saying other people are GOD to implies their are many GODs. Which is absurd. How can others exist in GODs point of view?

This is not about inner experience. It was about do others exist outside your ( GOD ) imagination?

@Seraphim So whats the point of enlightenment? How can you even liberate yourself ? I can show many high quality NDEs and Pyschdelic trip reports were it was clearly shown others are figment of your imagination . Are you saying everybody is lieing? Whats the point of enlightenmemt when others exist and you also GOD also exist. This implies duality. Their is One God. If God is One , He must be imagining other people too including my ego identity too. In order for others to exist they should have separate independent existence. And that is duality.

So you believe earth exist and your friends exist?

Do you guys ever prayed after your enlightenment?

@BipolarGrowth Are you aware of the fact that humans donot exist? Jesus, Krishna, Buddha donot exist . So what you are praying to? Individual ego self is an illusion . And krishna , Buddha etc are ego self arising in consciousness. You are potraying as if another entity in the form of human exist who listens to your prayer .

My enlightened friend says god is one and he is none other than jesus. But I asked him if god is infinite consciousness and is formless then how do god looks like jesus? He replied " God is consciousness which is correct, but he appeared on earth for saving all people and he did all miracles which proves god personally came to earth ". He said this world is mere dream in jesus consciousness. And everything is jesus and everyone is jesus. But I asked him why do god choose to appear as jesus figure only? There are infinite number of alien civilization and infinite number of universes. Whats special in jesus. Why do I pray to him? He said god did incarnate personally as jesus. And he looks like him. We must pray to jesus as god looks like jesus and he is everyone and everything. I am confused here. Why god which is infinite consciousness chose only jesus to appear on earth? Did jesus really came from sky? Did jesus sitting in some dimension who created this world and who personally incarnated on earth to save all humans and is we are one with him? My friend says " He is everything and is everyone ; and we must pray to jesus only as infinite consciousness chose jesus figure and disclosed how it looks like . He said god looks like jesus. Is it true guys? I said him jesus was human only not some sky being. But he rejected and said jesus came from some dimension who created this universe and is one with us. Is my enlightened friend correct?

So jesus was just god in human ( limited form ) ? Am I right?

Man you are not understanding what he was saying. He insists Jesus as God appeared on earth in its infinite form and disclosed its true form as anthropomorphic. He says god has image and we must worship jesus only and no other God. He says god appeared on earth as jesus in its true form having complete omniscient, omnipotent, infinitely intelligent form. You get that? Actually I have doubt as most polytheist religion also worship individual gods . For ex- Roman mythology , Celtic mythology, egyption mythology etc. As you can see from the dawn of human civilization human are worshiping more than 5000 gods . This confuses me all. If god is consciousness and formless and god can only incarnate by limiting itself in human form . Then it means humans are worshiping humans since ages?

@The Lucid Dreamer So it mean god can incarnate by only limiting itself as human? What he was insisting that god has image and has anthromorphic form. He said god in its infinite state appeared on earth and disclosed how god really looks like.

He has spent years towards enlightenment. I said too how can JESUS appear in its infinite form while rest of us be limited. He says " Christ consciousness is what we are and we are Jesus only. " God once came in its original anthromorphic form on earth and disclosed how he looks like ". He says god has anthromorphic form.

@Leo Gura But my friend says I must pray to jesus only as God has image. Is jesus human or god? Is it possible that god has image and god looks like jesus in its true form? My friend says he is enlightened . He says that infinite consciousness is nothing but christ consciousness. He says god appeared to humans in its true form and disclosed his image as jesus . So we must pray to jesus image only.