99th_monkey

Right at the end when he mentioned what someone had said "I don't want anymore clothes, I don't want more thoughts, I want to be naked and un-associated" I instantly had to watch it again because I Said the same words (more or less) yesterday.

Breathe And sit....... or sit down and shut up

so all the doubt is just a way am i totally tricked by this deep feeling of doubt and insecurity ? It's like im in a deep fear that im wasting my time. so i see what your saying. I've always said that to myself, but forget in the experience of it.

@Pinocchio I know the concept of family what is always has been, but i'm not sure how to proceed with my kids. i see me saying things to them and setting rules that i know are not "true" and it drives me crazy. but then i'm making myself crazy by bla bla bla bla bla... you know what i mean. i feel like a dog trying to do calculus, as leo put it some time ago. @Anna Skywords easy girl.

hahaha i see what you did there. but seriously though, how do i trace it back? that feels like something else i just create

lovely

We get lost in the gross ways we set up our defense's the subtle ways to slip by. I'm struggle with this myself, it's tough

I was watching a couple of videos tonight, and i noticed one of my favorite things is when Leo has his "But Leo" rebuttals and his hand goes all over the place... i seem to take count and laugh at them all the time... cuz its funny just a thought i wanted to share at Leo's expense

well, whats the point then?

give up your idea of imaginary reality. you dont know what it is. so focus on what is right in front of you... i'm not a big fan of mantras but i do have one "keep it simple, stupid" and then focus on what is focusing.

trace it back and go further. "what" is sensing the senses ... so to speak.... where is it going.... take somthing simple. like looking at the keyboard. where are the images going.... to your brain? to your mind? to yooouuurrrrrr? dont worry about mind so much it will always be there, but try to get a feeling for where everything is "ending" what is seeing all this stuff coming in? what is aware of it.... opinions and meaning and all the stuff comes from mind. BUT the real raw perception goes to something? maybe something is aware of it before the mind process begins? right? maybe? try to figure that out

^^ good one leo. are we talking like regular world crap to legitimately throw away. where are you at in terms of "the process"

i think i get what youre asking, now. what your doing is questioning what peoples "morality" and its effects of the "enlightened state" BUT no one is born with a certain "morality". all that is, is social programming, in our society (i live in the states) its moral to be monogamous, dont kill anyone and in general follow the classic golden rule. we are not born with this in us. we are taught it. I tell my kids everyday to stop hitting eachother when in reality they want to kill eachother over legos all the time. i'm positive my 4 year old twins are closer to enlightenment then i am. i'm teaching them my cultures morals. and pulling them away from themselves. i think your list is not going to go anywhere because as you work on yourself and get to all the assumptions and beliefs and morals we teach eachother the point becomes moot. any "reason" to take any action falls by the wayside. even with boredom. people kill and steal for a "reason" , and you dont even need to be enlightened to see that a or THE "reason" isnt real/ is conceptual. so why do it? i guess it has to do with attachment.. or maybe lack there of... i dunno....

there is no benefit

bloody love.

@DizIzMikey save yourself a lot of time and use your sense of sight instead of touch,(both are just perceptual senses) not that it will get you anywhere, if you need a break take it. this shit sucks, and ruins lives make sure you know what you want

its all thoughts... and im sorry but, aint it. "the state" everyone wants and talks about, you cant have it.

dude. stop.

hmmmm books. struggle, confusion and frustration are VERY good signs. it means your mind is uncomfortable. and if your looking for truth then thank god youre uncomfortable

Be selfish, you're selfish anyways, even the illusion of doing things for others is in fact a selfish act (you do them for "your" own reasons) it has little to nothing to do with anyone else, even if you're delusional, I wouldn't stick with this one very long, destroy it and move on.

you dont realize how "addicted " you are to looking at things. any sort of drop in attention to objects around you may seem weird. i dont get the question.

its very possible to do it without seclusion, more detraction but your life is constantly kept in the foreground. like on the front line. constant things to question, keeps you very grounded. i think if i walked off into the woods for a month i wouldnt be able to come back. BUT im imagining. Easier to "see" in a sense. this is all crap anyway because everything out there has nothing to do with it.

its so friggin simple it hurts. i can tell you right now. GET THERE! then make decisions about how to live consciously. you can "get there" right now, in this instant. in this moment. not later. not tomorrow. RIGHT NOW. screw mindsets, screw "action" dont worry about reality cuz your only going in circles. so get all that crap out of your head.

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