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Hi everyone, for the gamers amongst you: I'm still struggling with talking to groups of guys and girls. Only girls is ok, I just compliment them and then start my banter talk. With mixed groups I'm still affected by the presence of the guys, especially if they look fairly "alpha" and I'm more in my head feeling like I need some specific logical reason to talk to them. I'd like to be able to engage the entire group first and then throw in some more intentful stuff towards the girl of my interest, because if I talk to the girl first guys can become protective rather quickly. How do you guys do it?

I'll try to first talk to the girl and then be friendly and social with everybody else.

Now. Include it in an overall balanced life.

@Tboy I do think that this could be a valid strategy. I think in the self esteem series Julien talks about how he uses social comfort zone challenges to become aware of the sensations of anxiety and the awkwardness and feels into them to then let them go.

@johnlocke18 Would you pay for it if he created this kind of content?

That is a lot you ask for here. You need very specific camera equipment and someone to film you. It's probably very time consuming and not worth the effort for someone who is not primarily a dating or pick up coach. I mean I would happily watch it too, but I don't think it's gonna happen. I think you can all be appreciative that there are like 8 hours of free content on how to get laid, is that not a lot of value completely for free?

I don't know why, but you could analyze how you bring these things up. Do you use a tone that is either of escalating or de-escalating nature. E.g. many people use expressions like "You always do XYZ...that is very annoying to me...". That is a very accusatory tone that makes people defensive and pisses them off. Better would be something like "I don't mean to upset you or anything, but I have noticed that you did XYZ a few times (if asked you can give examples), and it is something that makes me feel [insert feeling]. How do you perceive this?" . In the end you can't stop people from getting offended or upset, even if you make an effort to not upset them. So if you do your best, but keep getting shitty reactions, then you'll have to question the quality of this friendship/relationship. Basically we're talking about non violent communication here. You can research that if you need to know more.

This depends so much on you and your background and your constitution (psychologically) etc. Let's say if you are average in most regards (looks, intelligence) and currently still inexperienced with women, it would be reasonable to expect it to take three years or so. I don't think you have to necessarily go out many nights per week, but therefore you should have at least a bunch of daygame interactions most days of the week. It also depends on what you consider to be "good at game". If you're talented you could also have decent results after maybe a year, but these results will probably still lack consistency. If you want to pull 9s and 10s regularly you may still have to do more work even after 5+ years in the game, but if you're that ambitious you may never fully quit game anyway

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@Jenkins cool story I can't really help you with that decision. You'll have to trust your own judgement.

Awesome. I don't want to overly focus on the negatives, but would you mind sharing how exactly that one drink landed in your face? ?

So what specifically do you need suggestions for? Nobody will change your penis size so you can only change your mindset around it.

Don't know the program, but I think any program will only really help you if you have the right environment to apply this stuff, which is a big city...

@Truth-Seeker https://www.gameglobal.net/groups/ You find them on this website that Leo recently shared. Toronto has a group.

What I mean is: if everything is imaginary and just mind stuff or consciousness, how could we still argue that the e.g. New York City is something that does exist in a sense, whilst the flying spaghetti monster is just nonsense. How can imaginary things like NYC be distinguished from other imaginary things like the flying spaghetti monster? I mean, one can fly to NYC and actually touch the brooklyin bridge and so on, whilst the flying spaghetti monster could never be more than some vague image in your mind. Do we need two different categories like "imaginary" and "imaginary imaginary"? I'm struggling to understand if distinctions between "real/truthful" and "completely nonsensical" actually still can or should be made or are valid.

If you mean RSD Tyler then it's probably because he is ten times more charismatic than the average guy. Also he's got expensive clothes, so it's not the worst fashion. His beard is huge but well-groomed.

But if I did this and had a trip sitter, would he also see the spaghetti monster or would only I see it? I understand that the idea of a "me" and a separate "other" is an imaginary separation, but still we can't deny that there is something like different bubbles of consciousness. For example you couldn't have known what exactly my next comment was going to be, you didn't have acces to this little bubble of consciousness that is thinking of this very comment. Basically: Could the flying spaghetti monster become "material" COLLECTIVE reality if someone was conscious and willing enough to create it?

@bloomer It may even be helpful to not overload yourself with a lot of theory and immediately trying to be "alpha" and all this stuff. You know, when you're already anxious, trying to do everything the correct way may just add to the anxiety and overwhelm you. Keep it simple for some time and just get used to talking to and getting to know more people and gradually decrease your anxiety levels like this. Then, if you wish to, you can still mesh more sophisticated techniques on top of your existing skills.

Do you think it's possible for a human to enter a state of mind where he could actually manifest something "material" or attract it in law of attraction style, just by imagination? I know you said when someone is in full on God consciousness it wouldn't occur to "him" anymore to manifest something material, like a million dollars, though maybe it's possible to reach a level of consciousness where you still have some egotistical motivations but are already far beyond normal human consciousness?! Especially for health purposes this would be amazing.

Thank you!!!

And this does not change the fact that all that you have to do to achieve this goal is to go out and apply the principles. It's on you.

100% wrong. You've been good enough since the first minute of your life. At some point in your life you started to make yourself believe that you were not good enough, and maybe others helped you with that, because you started to believe that in order to be good enough you have to fulfill certain criteria, which you didn't and therefore you felt like you weren't good enough. This idea of not being good enough is nothing but fiction in your head, it's and electrical impulse moving through the neural connections of your brain, that's all it is. By the way, whether or not you are attractive to girls ("good enough" for them to consider you sexually) has nothing to do with whether you are good enough in a fundamental sense. There is no such thing as being good enough, it's a mental construct.

Sure. But when someone comes to me and says "I know that the moon is hollow and that there are Aliens living inside of it who control everything that's happening on planet earth" Can we now say that these claims are completely false, completely correct or something else?

@bloomer Not true. There doesn't have to be a girl already attracted to you for another girl to become attracted to you. You only have to (ideally) act AS THOUGH other girls are attracted to you, to make girls attracted to you, but even that is not absolutely mandatory. You have to realize that girls are needy too, you don't have to be hyper non needy, just a bit less needy than her is enough. You could even act vulnerable and admit your anxiety like "Hey, I'm shitting my pants and you seem out of my league, but anyway, I thought you looked interesting so I wanted to come by for a moment" Ironically admitting your insecurities can sometimes be perceived as less insecure than acting confident when you're feeling insecure, because you know, when you show your insecurity, at least you are confident enough to show your imperfection, if you hide your insecurity you are afraid of other people seeing your weakness which can make you look insecure.

These are a lot of very exaggerated beliefs, do they actually stem from first hand experience? I mean if you live in a tiny town with two night clubs and you walk from one girl to another saying "hey, you look fucking hot, let's go home" then ok, it will happen. But it's not like bars and clubs will punish you for pro social behaviour like going to people saying "Hey, you guys look like interesting people, how's your night going?" Lol. I think you guys create these over the top beliefs to have more excuses not to take action. I've been to so many clubs and bars and I've been thrown out of ONE club because I talked to some girl who happened to be the girlfriend of the club owner ? Other times were just because I was so fuckin drunk that I fell asleep sitting on some box.