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Your argument here seems to be that "if men were women then men would feel the same way about sex as women do" which is a tautology. But I do think I get what you're trying to say. I just think "if men could experience massive sexual objectification they would hate it" is not a good way to phrase the argument because what you really want is for men to experience what it's like to exist as a woman and then experience sexual objectification from within that frame of mind. Most men would be pretty happy about this, lol. We are fairly hard-wired to enjoy as much sex as we can get regardless of circumstance. There just isn't any amount of sexual objectification that's going to start to bother us. It only starts to become a negative when you throw in all of the other baggage that women have to deal with regarding sex and like I said, at that point you're basically saying "if you were a women you'd feel the same way about sex as women do"

I'm not singling them out, or placing higher expectations upon them. I'm just pointing out how exploitation can occur in this particular case because that's what this thread is about. All of those examples of people being crooked deserve criticism as well.

The line is very blurry. I imagine it's very tempting to sacrifice more and more of your ethics to make money as an OF girl. Most, from what I understand, are trying to find whale clients who they make the majority of their money from. By whale clients I mean guys who pay lots of money for specific things. I'm sure some of those guys know what they're doing and are fine with it, but I have serious suspicions that in many cases they are being led along in some way. Whether this is OK or not is really hard to judge. Like I said, the line is blurry. It just seems like it would be hard to stick to an ethical code as a girl on OF when there's so much money to be made by dropping your ethical standards.

I think a lot of men would enjoy this, not hate it. But we are safe to enjoy it because we don't have to fear for our safety when random women show interest. My issue with OF is more to do with the scam side of it. Like where you have an organisation running an OF account for a girl with managers that will message men pretending to be the women to try and lead them on and extract more money from them. If you're just an independent OF creator then that's your hustle and you do you. I'll never pay for it but you're not really harming anyone. It's when it gets to the point that you're misleading, lying or manipulating beyond a certain line that I think it becomes a problem. Kind of equivalent to a man lying about his profession, income, or coming up with random lies to get a woman to sleep with him.

It's a really common insecurity for some reason, I used to hate how I looked smiling in photos. I think it's because we're used to seeing ourselves in the mirror not smiling. It sounds weird but if you practice smiling in the mirror occasionally you'll start to feel better about how it looks in photos

Your argument is essentially that you should blame the men instead of the women because they create the demand and I agree with that. Ultimately they are the ones stupid enough to fall for these scams. I don’t agree with you that the majority of these guys know what they’re in for though. On that front I think you’re quite sorely mistaken. The majority of guys buying OF are not doing it in a healthy way. It’s done out of loneliness and desperation the majority of the time. If you’re getting regularly laid you’re not gonna waste money on OF. You also can’t completely absolve responsibility from the girls. It depends on the degree to which they are exploiting guys. Making sexual content online and wanna get paid for it? Maybe you lead a few guys on a bit? Sure, whatever, you do you. But having a team of guys pretending to be you chatting to countless guys just to extract as much money as possible? Yea that’s plainly past some ethical line.

The ethical issue here is that many of them pretend to care about the guys. If they can convince these men that they do care, they'll give them more money. Even worse, a lot of the big OnlyFans accounts have teams of guys pretending to be the OF girl. They chat to men and try to lure them into a parasocial relationship to extract even more money from them. Most of the money making in OF happens through whale contacts, essentially guys who they have identified as the perfect combination of rich and gullible. These guys are lured into spending more and more money. This is why a lot of OF girls will post everything on Reddit/Twitter. You might see that you can get anything you'd want to see from the girl on Reddit/Twitter and think "well what dumbass would buy her OF then?". The answer is guys who are gullible enough to think that if they give her money, she'll actually like them. And the girls know this and target those guys, which is quite exploitative in nature.

Patriotism isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's only bad when it's delusional or extreme, like the patriotism you see from people in the US. In general travelling to and living in new places is a good experience for most people. You don't need to sacrifice your patriotism in order to do that either. You can always visit home occasionally.

What mental illnesses are deemed normal by society?

60-70 percent of men are not mentally ill. You get a distorted idea of statistics like this if you only look at online forums and social media. Out in the real world most men are doing just fine

Like 80-90% of the men I’ve met in my life haven’t gone to either of these extremes and are doing just fine

Homeopathy works better than nothing, because of a placebo. That part is pretty well understood But you wouldn't recommend avoiding the conventional treatment in favour of just using homeopathy?

What in the fuck did I just read

If you try and cure a sore leg with homeopathy it'll work because of the placebo effect. If you try and cure cancer with it, you're going to die.

If you are going to travel a lot I think you should learn to travel light, ideally with a lightweight carry on only backpack. Firstly if you resonate with this, there's a really great ultralight travel product list made by a guy called Jeremy Maluf. There are some fantastic product recommendations in this list: https://jeremymaluf.com/onebag/ I'd also say it's worth buying a good lightweight backpack. Personally, the best all round ultralight backpack I've found is the ULA Dragonfly, it's got an amazing reputation among the Onebag community. It's pricey but it'll last you your whole life, ULA has lifetime warranty. It has basically every feature you'd want in a backpack while weighing very little. https://www.ula-equipment.com/product/ultra-dragonfly/

You can say really dirty things, bordering on disrespect if said outside of a sexual context, and many women will absolutely love it. Just make sure that you cuddle up afterwards and let her know that she is loved, instead of used. The contrast between super dirty/passionate/rough sex and soft/warm cuddling afterwards drives women (and a lot of men for that matter) crazy.

He’s probably played like 20k hours of Geoguesser. It would actually be more surprising if he hadn’t had a few insane guesses like this with that much playtime. Even as a pretty bad player I’ve had some really impressive guesses based on random intuition He also admitted to cherry picking a lot of his impressive short TikTok clips

From what I hear they mostly they use escrow systems which mean that if you don't get what you ordered you can raise a dispute and they won't get their money.

I've had wax build-up three or four times and it's annoying, but the last time I tried this. It kinda worked but it didn't completely clear my ears, so I went to the doctor. When I told her I did this she kinda freaked out and told me that this is really risky to do yourself because if you use too much pressure you can damage or burst your eardrum.

You sound VERY angry mate, over something that’s ultimately pretty inconsequential. Why did this post hurt you so much? You doing OK?

I was bullied relentlessly in school and had essentially zero friends, zero social life and crippling social anxiety until I was 22. I got sick of it, so for around 2 years from 22 to 24 I committed to doing something sociable every single weeknight and pushing myself to go out and partying at weekends. At first solo (which was tough) and then eventually I made a group of friends to go out with and I started to really love it. I'm not judging guys like that at all because I basically was one. But I feel compelled to push other people to take action and become properly sociable because I did and it made my life so much better. I'm not part of any hippy groups at all really, I went to a chess club, a jiu jitsu gym, and some hiking groups and then had some friends who I partied with at weekends. I spent the vast majority of my free time from aged 5 to 21 playing video games. It's probably one of my biggest regrets because it's socially fucked me for the rest of my life. But like I said I've done a good amount of work to try and undo all of that shitty social conditioning as much as possible.

What statistics? Any I can find show an increase in lack of sex among both genders since covid. With younger men being hit maybe 5-15% harder depending on the source. And that imbalance evens out as you look at older age ranges too, which makes sense. There's a difference between having a few friends and having an active social life. Smoking weed in your mates flat with a few friends every weekend doesn't count. Not suggesting that applies to the people you're talking about here, but in general when I've had these discussions with dudes before and they tell me they have an active social life but still can't get laid, that's what it ends up looking like. If you're doing activities where you're in busy mixed gender groups and meeting lots of new people every week, you're going to have opportunities to get laid at least occasionally. Well the cause is kind of simple. It's mainly the fact that we are much less sociable than we used to be overall, especially since covid. Men get hit harder by that than women because the barrier to entry for building a social life from scratch for guys is a bit higher than it is for women. But the solution from the POV of a guy who can't get laid is pretty much the same, you need to become a lot more sociable.

The regular nice guy with no social life isn't getting any. Most of the 'regular nice guys' I've met who have an active social life are getting laid at least sometimes. The idea that 'the regular nice guy is getting nothing' comes from incel subcultures that are composed of guys who are chronically online and rarely leave their house. They conclude that women must not like them because they are 'regular nice guys' but it isn't that. It's because they have no social skills.

If she can’t afford $50 for half a dinner I’d like to know that sooner rather than later lol Also you talk a lot about how one should be open to other perspectives here, but that seems to apply only when that other perspective is yours. When it’s reversed you don’t seem particularly open to anything other than your own opinions. Just something I noticed in this thread. Make of that what you will.

I went backpacking SEA for the past year. I can't recommend it highly enough.