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Not in relation to masturbating/porn as far as I know. Feel free to point me in the direction of such info. I have never seen conclusive proof that masturbation is harmful in the same way as something like cocaine is, yet no-fappers frequently talk about it like it's the worst thing ever for you That's the part that irritates me. I'm not saying it isn't bad for you, I'm mainly arguing that there is little proof that it's anywhere near as bad for you as no-fappers often suggest I was pointing out that your body is designed to fuck lots and continue functioning optimally after fucking. Evolutionarily if your brain chemistry started to break down after lots of sex that would be incredibly disadvantageous Why is searching for novelty such a bad thing in your eyes? Most people hit equilibrium of novelty and effort anyway. It's not like you constantly look for new ways to jerk off, eventually you find what works and stick to it. It becomes a tool to release sexual thoughts and let you focus on more important things. Like eating food releases you from hunger

The fact that you are self-reflecting like this indicates that you're pretty smart anyway. And your post is well written. If you were really irreversibly thick as mince you'd be able to tell from your writing, but really it's very coherent. I'm not sure what you're worrying about to be honest. If you are consistently asking yourself questions like "am I actually smart?" then the answer is most likely that you are. Self-reflection requires a lot of intelligence The main thing that separates people who are really good at highly logical/academic pursuits from those who are not good at them is actually motivation rather than raw intelligence. Becoming an academic requires an insane amount of motivation and dedication to a field. Most academics have average or maybe slightly above average intelligence, but they've loved their field since they were a very young age

No you can't swap out masturbation with cocaine. Cocaine regularly kills people and there are a fuck ton of rigorous scientific studies showing its danger. As there is with smoking, drinking and fast food. You know what there are no rigorous scientific studies showing the danger of? Masturbation. The dopamine receptor thing is pure speculation. There is no real evidence for it Think about it logically: your body is literally designed to fuck. To fuck as much as it can, as often as it can handle. That is what evolution selects for in males. How dumb would it be evolutionarily if having a whole bunch of sex made you dissatisfied with life, or made you want to stop having more sex? You think the alpha males of the original human tribes who were fucking 4 girls a day would start to hate their lives and become desensitised and stop having sex? No because evolution would get rid of this gene very very quickly Another example: there are dudes who are 60, watched a whole bunch of porn, had a whole bunch of novel sexual experiences, and yet they are still just as sex crazed and rampantly horny as they were when they were 30. What happened to their dopaminergic system? Why has it not been 'downregulated'? I'm not saying there aren't downsides to masturbation. If you are properly addicted to it and it's interfering with daily life then it's obviously really bad. But if you jerk off fairly frequently it's like 15 mins a day max and it just becomes like eating and shitting. You do it to maintain a healthy mental space and clear your mind of sexual thoughts

Pickup is the same no matter where you do it: go talk to girls in clubs/bars at weekends, get yourself a wingman if you want It doesn't need to be any more complicated than that at the start. Once you can reliably go out and talk to some girls then start looking for tips on how to improve or location specific advice

Same thing happened to me when I was a teenager my man All I can say is thank fuck I outgrew that phase, my life has gotten a million times better since then. I wish you the best in doing the same

Dude this is entirely unrelated to what I asked you. Ask yourself this question, consider it, and write out an honest reply: Has redpill made any serious improvements to your life, or has it just given you a lot of beliefs you want to defend?

@itachi uchiha Yes this forum is quite anti-redpill because this forum is anti-ideology I know it feels like redpill is empowering you as a man, but honestly ask yourself: Has following the redpill ideology made any practical improvements to your life, or has it just instilled you with a set of theoretical beliefs you want to defend?

That’s pretty much the only solution. At some point these guys have got to start talking to girls instead of sitting on a computer If you talk to enough girls then some of them will like you These traits aren’t demonised these days

Dude you actually sound so toxic Did you get fucked by the YouTube anti-feminist, redpill rabbit hole?

It’s not greed, it’s more subtle than that. He would start to believe he is a 6/10 and that he is worthy of a 6/10

This pisses me off to no end. Whenever I look for transformation pics of skinny dudes into muscular dudes a whole fuck ton of them are just the same body under different lightning conditions or angles

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The stats are something like 25% of relationships start online IIRC. It depends on the location but generally speaking even in the countries with the most online dating (the US unsurprisingly) only something like 1/4 girls use online dating. In Europe it’s closer to 1/10 It also doesn’t account for casual relationships, many of which still happen in person. People aren’t going to stop partying any time soon After he matched with five 5/10 girls he’d start looking for a 6/10. After a girl matched with five 5/10 guys she’d start looking for a 6/10, then you’re back where you started. Everyone wants the best deal they can get, so everyone fights and competes. There is no fairness in dating. You aren’t owed shit, you gotta fight for it

The problem is that there isn’t much society can do for them. It isn’t really like homelessness or poverty where you can have social initiatives and some government support to help those people The most society could do to help inceldom is treat it like a mental health issue, but look at how terrible we are at handling mental health as a society Regulating dating apps won’t help much. I agree they are a negative influence but they are not the cause of inceldom and removing them will not solve the problem. The fundamental problem is poor social skills

Fixed. I'm kidding a little bit, I'm sure some are natural. But frankly they stand so much to gain from using enhancing drugs that I can't imagine many wouldn't I'm not sure I'd set instagram models as my target tbh I've been doing this for a year or so now and it is quite easy to maintain which is good. I also added in 3x5 barbel bicep curls which have actually legit made my arms look way more masculine instead of like twigs I do it at home and with not that much weight so my results on certain lifts are limited a bit by that. I'm going to start ramping the weight up again soon to hopefully get some better results. I'm quite a skinny dude so I really have to eat a lot to put on muscle as well

What is this based on? lol You think dudes in the past wouldn't chase the hot girls?

There are a few good reasons that clubs are suggested for dudes: Abundance. There are tons and tons of girls who want to meet new people there. More than you'll find pretty much anywhere else You get a lot of room for mistakes. It's the kind of place where you can make social mistakes and face very little consequences, compared to say being awkward in a gym, shopping centre, or even a bar, where you can be thrown out for basic social errors. Or even face criminal charges, although that's very unlikely Most guys should aim to have a fair few casual encounters before they start looking for a LTR It pushes your comfort zone like crazy Anonymity. It's so busy that you can blend into the crowd if you want, there are no eyes on you The type of girls who go to clubs are not really a unique type of girl. The girls in clubs are pretty much just normal girls. Any guy who says "Oh, I don't like the girls who you'd find in a club" is most likely trying to justify their fear of entering the club environment You don't need to go to clubs as a guy, but they're fucking brilliant for meeting girls and you would be kind of silly to exclude them. Especially if you exclude them based on fear instead of an actual dislike of that environment I would say that as a guy if you can't go into a club environment and feel relatively secure and confident then it would be a good exercise to develop yourself until you can. Not even from a meeting girls POV, just for confidence and self esteem reasons

Yup. The problem is that there isn’t exactly that much theory to pickup, at least for dudes who struggle socially. The theory for them is ‘be social’ and ‘step out of your comfort zone’ but that advice doesn’t make an online coach money, really So when there are that many coaches who’s income depends on teaching pickup online they have to come up with more and more theory or flashy in-field content to keep people coming back for more info, and that stuff can get super cringe

You can be good looking but still not get great results because your personality sucks. And you can also be pretty below average looking as a dude and your personality can carry for you. You see it all the time. I don't know which pickup coaches you've listened to, I listen to almost none except a few RSD videos and Leo. The typical pickup coach style makes me want to scratch my eyes out and clog my ears up from the cringe, so perhaps we do agree on that Most good pickup advice boils down to 'get off your ass and go socialise' and some techniques to make that happen. Nothing wrong with that really. A lot of guys who are socially fucked need a framework to learn how to have those organic conversations you mention. It doesn't always come that naturally if you've spent most of your life in front of a computer

I agree it's addictive. But just because something is addictive doesn't necessarily mean it's bad. If you watch porn every day but it doesn't harm your life in any way, how is that a problem? Water is also highly addictive It's worth noticing. But I suspect this isn't that common. Most guys are horny as fuck. Porn has helped me find the things that turn me on the most, the things that drive me absolutely crazy. If anything porn actually makes me more aroused overall, because it drives me to go out and experience sexuality for real. And yea, that means I don't get turned on as much by just some basic sex, but so what? I want great sex, I don't want basic boring sex No amount of porn will ever satisfy the urge to fuck a real girl. It just won't. So yea, if you're using porn to cope with not being able to get a real girl then that's a problem Yes, it's worth investing, I agree. My issue is primarily with no-fappers who preach about how it's so terrible for everyone and it's destroying our minds based primarily on their own anecdotal experience which is most likely rife with placebo

What if it's just placebo? The dopamine thing is the goto no-fap argument but afaik there isn't really any biological evidence behind it. Personally I don't really buy it. Your body is literally built to fuck as often as it possibly can. A gene that depletes your dopamine reception after a whole bunch of sex would be super detrimental to survival, and jerking off to porn is just an abstraction of having a whole bunch of sex I've noticed watching porn makes me want to try more interesting things sexually and average sex becomes a bit boring, but I wouldn't say that's necessarily bad. I would say it's increased my bar for good, exciting sex I don't really understand the argument that it affects how you view women. Men are going to see women sexually whether they jerk off or not. It's up to your own mind to override that when need be. If you're a horny dog who hasn't came in several months you're going to uncontrollably see women far more sexually than a dude who jerked off last night

How is it harmful? Please give me some concrete examples. You just keep reiterating that it's harmful, like it's self evident

This is a silly comparison. Meth is biologically dangerous and you can point to concrete statistics about its danger and lethality. You can do the same with fast food. However you cannot with porn. No one, as far as I'm aware, has died from masturbating or watching porn. Therefore comparing these things is not really valid. The dangers of porn and masturbation are debatable, psychological, and far more subtle. As with anything that is purely a psychological, what you believe is often far more important than reality. If you believe porn/masturbation hurts you then it will. If you believe it doesn't then it won't

So are rampant horniness and sexual dissatisfaction