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Again, this was not targeting @Inliytened1 specifically, there are many examples of that kind of language in this thread from several different users, hence why I worded it in a general way.

It's not like those are the only examples of this kind of language in this thread, and I'm not targeting this specifically at him. It was a broader point about the language from several different people across the entire thread. I would argue that actually makes it worse, not better. If you're going to insult someone you should at least say things you'd be willing to say to their face. I do just fine, thank you very much. In fact, I've actually noticed my dating life getting significantly better as a result of viewing women as human beings and not pieces of meat. Surprising, I know.

Of course. I'm not above that. But a mindset of "I am not personally attracted to overweight women" is very different from calling someone a whale. In fact part of the reason I feel fairly passionate about this is that I used to be quite callous in the language I used to talk about women until I realised the harm it causes. I would not want people talking about me or people I care about like that. This realisation came from reading how women in places like FemaleDatingStrategy talk about men. It made me feel quite unpleasant and bitter, after which I realised that I was basically doing the same thing in reverse with how I was talking about women's bodies.

Again, there are parts of this thread that are clearly very insulting, and unnecessarily so. If someone is using terms which are both entirely unnecessary for their point and very insulting, it is hard to argue that is acceptable behaviour. You don't need to be an arbiter of morality to see that's not behaviour that should be accepted.

I'm not even sure how to approach replying to this. You called women "whales" and "ugly bitches" which is indefensible regardless of how much you comment in the high consciousness areas of the forum.

Speak for yourself

I'm not sure how that's relevant, the 'higher values' point generally applies to all sections on a forum like this, it's the whole point of being here. The dating section is the area I have the most direct experience in, hence why I spend the most time actually commenting here. I read the consciousness section but I don't have as much direct experience to draw from there so I don't comment as much.

Just because lots of people do it doesn’t make it right. Especially on a forum where higher values are generally encouraged. Care to elaborate on… why? It’s very comparable.

Day clubs are pretty comparable to night clubs. Though there are typically less people dancing, it's slightly less chaotic and social overall, and it's less common for people to hook up directly from a day club than a night club. This is because in a day club everybody still wants to spend the rest of their day doing stuff, not going home and hooking up.

The language used in parts of this thread is unnecessarily abrasive and dehumanising. "It's a men's thread" shouldn't mean that the men here are allowed to talk about women like they're evaluating the quality of a piece of meat. The same applies when you read content in women's dating spaces and you see them talking about men like they're evaluating a bank account. It's bad when either gender does it.

Yea, exactly. Half the dudes in this thread would get quite upset reading r/FemaleDatingStrategy and say that the women are gold diggers and materialistic etc. then in the same breath write out shit like what’s in this thread.

Racism is about race..... The reality is that most people are very selfish, regardless of gender. Even you are being selfish: "fuck a women and be done with it". You're doing the inverse of what you accuse women of. "Women only want resources, they're leeches and provide no value back to men" is your argument here, yet if you just fuck a woman and drop her you are doing essentially the same selfish thing in reverse. Taking as much as you can while giving as little in return.

Alright dude

Racism?? Lack of integrity of women? What?

I'm going to be honest, this has not made it any clearer what point you're trying to make

To answer the core question of the thread and keep this vaguely on topic, the most unusual places for me are: Against a tree in a park at night, the risk made this incredibly hot for both of us In an empty office building after leaving a club, was meh, the overhead lights were very bright and not very sexy On top of a mountain, really hot Outside on a bench behind a hostel with two girls, no idea how we did not get caught, but obviously incredibly fun and hot

Can you expand on what you mean here? I don't quite understand what your point is

From my research, I only found two studies that are even vaguely implying anything like what you said. One found small amounts of male DNA in women’s brains. However, the researchers concluded it most likely came from pregnancies, miscarriages, male twins or transfusions. The study never tested sexual intercourse, and its author later called that interpretation “erroneous and misleading.” The other found that seminal fluid from a previous mate affected offspring size in one species of fly. However, this was a non-genetic effect and has never been demonstrated in humans. There is no evidence that women retain every sexual partner’s DNA or pass their traits to future children. Speak for yourself. I don't want a virgin GF, I want a girl who likes to fuck, knows how to fuck, and knows what she likes already.

Then post your facts and data dude

Yes, to a degree, be interesting, make assumptions and tell stories. But if you never ask questions throughout your entire date you will start to annoy her. Most of my female friends complain about how common (and tiring) it is to go on a date with a guy who always redirects the conversation back to himself and never asks her anything. The ideal is a balance of the two. Tell interesting stories and give her opportunities to tell hers as well by asking good questions.

Dude 😂 you're either trolling, stupid, or brainwashed Send links to your 'proof' of this since you're so confident

Small talk is important. Yes, it can be boring and superficial but it acts as a social lubricant towards deeper questions. You can’t just jump straight into the deepest questions. It requires build up. As Natasha said, on a first date small talk acts as a proxy for a person’s deeper attributes without creating a ton of tension. In a long term relationship, small talk lets you figure out each other’s energy and mood on a daily basis, and it shows you care about them. I would introspect on your dislike of small talk. I had a similar sentiment towards it and I realised that it was a defense mechanism. I had this view of myself as deep and intellectual and “above all of that superficial shit like small talk”. A lot of people actually find this mindset quite irritating or draining. Not everything has to be a deep conversation about truth.

Sorry, but you’re going to get absolutely railroaded if you fall for stuff like this. She was interested in money, not love or depth

It’s not the only thing that matters, but it’s certainly important. Good luck building a long term relationship if you don’t share a sense of humour. The long term stuff comes after a few dates. No point in planning a life together if you don’t even know whether you’d enjoy each other’s company at dinner, a movie, drinks, games, chilling at home etc. I have a strong suspicion that the people who look actively for a ‘life partner’ tend to be the type who jump from relationship to relationship and break up after like 6 months. You try so hard to force everything to be long term even if it isn’t meant to be, and then it blows up.

Ehm, no? Did I say it did I’m honestly not sure what point you’re trying to make here