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I don't think anyone said it was trans-rational. It's more that social skills and relationships are a basic part of life that you need to have down and sorted out before you can move onto more advanced things in a healthy way. A well-rounded person knows how to let loose, not give a fuck, party, socialise and enjoy themselves now and then. Being the philosophy-obsessed, anti-party, stick-up-ass dude is not what you should aim to be in life. But it's a very common way that many under-socialised people try to justify their poor social skills: "I wouldn't partake in all that dumb, trashy partying, I'm too busy contemplating the important things in life like philosophy" Source: I used to do this and now I realise how dumb it is

I never said it was true, I said I think it's creepy which is just an opinion. Though probably one that I suspect many people would share I mean ya kinda do. If a girl asks what you're out doing and you say you're approaching girls on the street to get laid, it isn't gonna go down well It's more honest than hardcore daygame. You could prob even get away with literally saying "I'm just out to get laid tonight" in nightgame if you said it with the right energy and owned it. But generally speaking I just say "I'm out partying" which is pretty much what I'm doing. My primary aim is to go out and enjoy myself, getting laid is just a bonus To me that seems far more authentic And I would agree with you. If you met the girl authentically while you were living your life. That's about as wholesome and romantic as it gets The issue I take is purely with leaving your house during the day to go looking for sex, and then spam approaching girls on the street Again, I'm not saying that these things should be illegal or that you shouldn't do them. Simply that I personally find them cringey and that you have a much greater chance of getting into trouble if you do it badly, which I would like to avoid

Lmao, she literally sent you a text telling you how great you were, whatever you did worked so stop overthinking it What you should do next time you see her is actually let yourself get horny looking at her. Look into her eyes and let yourself feel raw physical attraction while you look at her. She will feel this energy if it's genuine and it will turn her on as well

I am not against daygame per se, I would approach or talk to occasional girls I see that are attractive as I go about my day-to-day life, but I keep the hardcore 10-20 approaches in a short space of time to nightgame, I suppose that is just my preference and where I feel most comfortable I've never left my house just to daygame. I think that's when it becomes creepy and needy. If you wanna build a life that a girl wants to be a part of, it's better to be a dude who knows how to party and have a good time than a dude who leaves his house at 11am on a Saturday to go looking for sex on the street Again, I'm not saying it can't work. I know it can work. But it feels like it has a lot less integrity, and requires a lot more 'not giving a fuck.' And maybe that's a good thing. But you're pretty much always gonna need to lie heavily about why you're out if you go daygaming, compared to nightgame where you can just go out and party with girls and it all feels far more authentic, at least to me

Honestly the US is probably too far gone The reason gun control works in other countries is because they don’t have that many guns in the first place The US has so many guns that you can’t ever hope to control and regulate them On top of that, there are countries like Switzerland that have tons of guns too, but still have way way fewer deaths and mass shootings That implies that there’s something categorically fucked about the mental state of a lot of American culture as well that is going to take a lot of work to fix Hell, I’d say it’s nearly impossible If a dude turning a Vegas hotel room into a military grade armoury and opening fire on a concert killing 60 people, and school shootings with death tolls upwards of 20, don’t make people want to change then nothing will

As bad as this sounds, I thought school shootings barely even made national news in the US now? Last time I checked the average was a school shooting every week in the US It’s truly a fucked up country

Nah the message is useless. Superlikes are also quite likely useless. The only thing worth paying for on Tinder is exposure. A big factor to not getting matches is that you don’t even show up on that many girls’ card stack to begin with Platinum means that you’re far more likely to show up on a girls’ stack of cards after you like her, since it ‘prioritises’ your likes, almost like a super like but without the neediness I was happy throwing £25 into that experiment, and it did help me quite a bit. Probably double or tripled the number of matches I got for about 2 weeks, then it died down. No idea why, could be that I burnt through the girls in my area or could be more sketchy shit. Remember that once you’re a paying customer, it isn’t in tinder’s best interest for you to find a long term partner This time around on tinder I’m not paying, especially those exorbitant prices

I’ve bought 6 months of Tinder plus a couple times, and one month of Platinum. I paid like £25 for 6 months of plus about a year ago, and about £20 for a month of plat about 4 months ago I took a break from tinder for a while but now I’m back, just took a look at their pricing just now and they now wanna charge me £60 for 6 months of Tinder plus?? And £40 for one month of platinum!!! Thats actually insane. They’ve been shown to discriminate based on age for subscription costs, but I’m 22. So either they’ve straight jacked their prices up by like 2x or they’re up to some sketchy shit with returning paid customers

A small group of people secretly controlling the entire world is a super unstable system You think that small secret group all work together, or you think they fight and compete with each other for power within the group? You think they’d be able to keep that secret? What if one of them decides to out the rest of the group? They’d just reveal all the secrets of the small group and then the whole thing collapses. All it takes is one person in the group to develop a conscience or feel guilt Think about the actual interpersonal mechanics of a small group of people running the entire world. You’re falling into a trap of viewing them as this mysterious entity at the top of society, but they’re all just human beings that do exactly the same dumb shit as every other human being which means their system isn’t going to be stable at all Just like every empire in humanities’ past, it would implode eventually

Well she also swiped right on a bunch of other dudes and if she likes one of them more and he’s giving her attention she won’t reply to your messages Thinking about this too much is not healthy for your self esteem which is why I think that beyond optimising your profile pics you should take as low effort as possible approach to dating apps. I have notifications for them disabled on my phone and I check them maybe three times a day max unless I’m messaging a girl There are guys who kill on dating apps, and there are guys who get nowhere. For these dudes, dating apps are simple. Dudes like you and I who are somewhere in the middle are actually in the danger zone of being sucked into spending way too much time (and money) on dating apps, because they tease the fuck out of you Dudes in the middle might also be subject to some sketchy shit by dating apps as well, because they’re the only people that are ever going to pay. For example, there is a decent amount of anecdotal evidence that paying for a boost on Tinder will work, but then once it ends you find that you get far less matches than you used to previously until you boost again

There isn't really a secret to this. At least, I haven't found anything reliable in like 2 years of Tinder So I usually just go for fairly low effort stuff. If she's interested, then pretty much anything will work. If she's not, then there isn't really anything you can say to make her reply Maybe 10% of my matches go more than two or three messages back and forth, if you want a point of reference. From what I gather that sounds about right for Tinder

"Who wants to demonise them?" *proceeds to demonise them*

I agree Mostly, when guys say they don’t like makeup, they mean they don’t like excessive or badly applied makeup But each to their own, I can certainly see the appeal of wanting a girl who wears no makeup. And personally I’m not a fan of piercings but plenty of guys are

This thinking is too black and white Yes, over-censorship can cause things to build up and burst, but allowing them free reign of a public platform spreads those ideas to more and more people who end up getting sucked in which is far worse People get brainwashed super easily, we know that. Society has a responsibility to try and prevent people from being dragged into harmful ideology Think mums radicalised into anti-vax through Facebook and the potential harm that causes. That’s a prime example of this dynamic There was a thread here recently of a dude who got radicalised by 4chan (a paragon of free speech online) and ended up shooting 10 black people

Your use of the word ‘couple’ here shows that you don’t get just how much rejection from girls guys have to face throughout their lives He’s probably talking about a couple hundred rejections/ghosting he’s experienced Any guy doing a lot of dating is probably gonna deal with a couple thousand throughout his entire life

@Striving for more I’m not saying no one should do daygame, it can work for some guys under some circumstances, clearly it does for you I’m simply saying that it tends to be interpreted as very needy and creepy by wider society and with good reason 90%+ of the dudes who end up doing hardcore daygame just annoy or creep out a lot of girls The fact that daygame is only viable when you get to a city with a population of 1 or 2mil or more is an indicator of the issue, it requires an absurd amount of anonymity to avoid getting into serious trouble or building up a bad reputation There are already dudes in the 1mil pop city near me that have a poor reputation, or have gotten in legal trouble for doing hardcore daygame. Several news articles on them Meanwhile I can do nightgame in my 100k town and have no issues at all. If I started doing hardcore daygame here I’d be in a news article (or all over social media) by the end of the week, even if I was good at it To me there’s no reason to hardcore daygame when nightgame A) Is actually fun B) Is far less risky C) Has more girls concentrated in a small area D) Has way more receptive girls Basically the only disadvantage is cost and sleep pattern but these are not huge factors if you’re careful

No, nothing at all. She was creeped out because you said something socially uncalibrated and quite over the top out of nowhere You coulda got away with that line no problem if you’d built some sexual tension/chemistry up first

You should try to understand why they are the way they are And if having such people in your life does not benefit you then take steps to minimise contact or remove them from your life entirely Certainly don’t demonise them, that harms you

@Yarco What is it you would like to express that you feel you cannot on current platforms?

I wasn't into ass at all really until I got my first GF who had an amazing one and now I fucking love girls with an ass I don't see how it can be propaganda or brainwashing. Where is the brainwashing coming from? Also why in the fuck would anyone want to brainwash people to like butts? It's probably largely that these things (ass, boobs, lips, legs) are sexually dimorphic that make them attractive. And also that well filled, symmetric butts, boobs, lips, legs are all good indicators of health Why would you be attracted to a mouth/lips? That's a slimy, saliva-filled, disease factory. Why would you be attracted to boobs? Those are just gelatinous milk factories. Why would you be attracted to a pussy? That's objectively disgusting to look at, yet somehow it drives the male brain crazy

You went from 0 to 100 real quick here Yea, you were talking a lot about sex with her, but it wasn't flirtatious. It wasn't about the sexual chemistry between you two, you didn't build any of that really, you just talked about sex in a very mechanical/clinical way So when you drop that bombshell about what you want to do to her, it feels extremely out of place and not calibrated at all You need to escalate and ramp up to something like that with playful and cheeky flirting You should have gone with something more like "you know you seem kinda kinky, now you're making me curious what you can do" said in a cheeky tone

Just because it's difficult to decide where the line should be doesn't mean there shouldn't be a line at all If you have people organising crime or talking about genocide on your platform, then that's a serious problem If you have people being abused racially on your platform, that's also pretty much undeniably bad The ideal solution is to have a few different platforms that each draw the line in different places and allow you to reside wherever you feel that line is fair Total free speech everywhere is beneficial/favourable to the most powerful groups in society, who have little to fear from absolute free speech

I'm sorry? Not all people who walk around confident and cocky are dickheads. It's better to walk around like that than to walk around defeated and insecure You shouldn't be immediately repulsed by people like that

Not usually, if it's done right

In my experience, a majority of girls were into (or curious about) some kind of butt play, but maybe only 10% were into actual anal sex The ones who were actually into it were really into it, though