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What are the chances you meet the perfect girl for you on your first try? Almost zero Why are there so many dudes with zero experience on the forum preaching about how to approach dating recently, it’s so silly. You all need to go and actually talk to some women romantically before deciding you know what you’re talking about Its a strategy employed by low value dudes to compensate in the dating market for being low value

Normally I'd disagree with something targeted like this, but I'm like 95% sure the dude is a troll from that thread about race IQ, so who cares

Many people go to uni/college for the social aspect rather than the education. I don't think that's bad either. Having top notch social skills and connections will likely get you much further in life than an engineering degree. I'd swap my First class CS degree for top tier charisma and social skills in a heartbeat. Plenty of people are also content being nurses, social care workers, psychologists etc. and find that very fulfilling even if they don't pay exceptionally well. It depends what you want out of life.

They're more likely to increase your EQ and creativity than your IQ.

I had sex on acid recently (though I was high and she wasn't) and it enhanced it a lot for both of us It made me far more open and loving before we fucked, she said she felt very cared for and loved by the way I was acting towards her on acid, which I assume made her way more turned on and horny than usual. The only downside was I couldn't physically cum, I think because of the vasoconstriction. But I had almost like multiple mental orgasms. It was very bizarre, but good.

Is this based on real world experience with romantic relationships? It's possible your relationships have been toxic. Healthy relationships don't play out like this. This reads very bitter, like a woman has wronged you in the past and now you're generalising your experience to all women. That's trauma and you should try to overcome it. All 'the game' is, is a way of meeting lots of girls. You can play the game in a way where you are looking for a deeper connection. Rather than try to make tons of assertions about how dating and love should work, go and learn how it works through experience. Why have you not done this? You are painting yourself as an authority with as far as I can tell quite limited experience. Why? Deep, healthy, and loving relationships take practice. You will almost certainly not get it right on your first try. Or probably even on your second or third try.

If you care so much about making the world a better place then take some action towards making that happen. Yes we should aim to make the world a better place to live for all, but you can't just be overly naïve about it and say "the world should just be perfect and easy right this very second and I'm going to be angry that it isn't" It also isn't especially clear what your point is with regard to attraction. I think you are trying to say that attraction doesn't need to be hard and brutal, but that you also don't want to impose any restrictions on who can date who. So what is your solution then? Everyone just ignores what they find attractive in others? Good luck making that happen I also went through a stage like both you and @Mesopotamian where I convinced myself I was above all the petty materialistic human BS, and it turned out that for me it was because I had so little experience of the world, and it was ultimately based in deep insecurity about myself and what I could accomplish. Not saying that's what is the case with both of you, but it was for me.

Oh, I think you are agreeing with me. I thought you were disagreeing at first

I mean I understand that being on psychedelics would allow you to perceive yourself turning into an alien. But leo is presenting it as though he is able to do this independent of psychedelics, in the so called 'material' world such that a camera should be able to pick it up. But then acts confused that a camera can't pick it up.

I tend to use snapchat where it's pretty standard to send picture messages. That's a happy medium and works well. Also, you can text without being boring.

I like pretty much all of the actualized.org content, I think it's a fantastic resource, and I like this forum. I just don't like that Leo is claiming to be turning into an alien, but that a camera can't capture it. He said he's desperately looking for a camera that can capture it, implying every one he's tried can't. That comes across as very unhinged, especially since he is experimenting with powerful psychedelics. There are basically two possibilities. Either Leo is experiencing things far beyond me that I am nowhere near ready to explore, or he's deluded himself. I have no idea which is true, but either way I don't really have an interest in pursuing whatever it is Leo is experiencing right now. I want to focus on basic spirituality and groundedness, like Leo did for many many years before reaching wherever he is now. I feel like others would benefit from that as well. This feels like the kind of post that may get me kicked out of here, if that's the case, so be it.

That's what I would actually do, yea. The block thing was a bit of an exaggeration. I've done voice messages before but it's usually after I know someone a bit better. It's a bit much when you just start talking to someone, I think it would weird out a lot of girls too.

Gotta admit, that hit the part of my mind that triggers alarm bells too.

I might ghost a girl who did this to me if I'm honest lol Maybe that's my introversion not liking voice/video messages with people I don't know though. I just feel like it's too much for someone you just met

I have no interest in wherever you want to take this. I wish you the best and hope you are able to get the results with girls you want

Mate this is a self-development forum, I’m giving you practical advice based on my impression of you, you can either choose to take it or ignore it. I’m not trying to debate you.

@Mesopotamian Mate you need to go outside, touch grass, and talk to some girls You’ve been thinking about dating a relationships too much. Time to take some action, less thinking.

Denial of what?? If anything you’re in denial about how attraction works

What are you talking about? This is essentially meaningless

This reads like cope. ”The world is too hard for me, make it easier, make other people change” Once you actually start dating women you see that a lot of the stuff you’re talking about here is not anything you need to worry about. Once you reach a basic level of attractiveness as a guy you can find plenty of girls who will commit to you and love you like crazy, help you through tough times, etc. What you’re essentially saying here is that women should deny their own instincts for finding attractive guys and choose guys who are weak and boring out of essentially charity

@Raze is shitting himself reading that ?

Look dude I don’t wanna start this again so I’m gonna make one simple comment and leave it at that: The only reason I got involved in the last thread was because it annoys me seeing people give advice about stuff they don’t have any experience with. You were talking about how wrong, untruthful, incorrect certain dating advice is, meanwhile you apparently have never been in a relationship, and don’t have any experience with dating (what you told me a while ago in another thread)

What results do you value?

Romantically? What truth? What is being contradicted? How are your opinions contradicting mine?

Well most guys here define experience with women as relationships, deep connection, and sex. I don't really know how else you would define it. Good luck learning to play baseball from observation. It just annoys me a bit that you present yourself as an authority with little experience. If you feel that is a personal attack, then feel free to report me.