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That's all well and good, but he said he was looking for a camera that could capture the transformation and that none he had tried so far could capture it. Does that not cause alarm bells to start ringing in your head?

Are you a software engineer by any chance?

It's a model that's really meant for classifying entire cultures or groups rather than individuals. But people often treat it like a personality test. I'm pretty sure Leo in one of his SD videos warned about the dangers of treating SD like a personality test or metric.

Yea, around the actual age of consent it's a grey area, that's why there are things like romeo and juliet laws, and often other conditions. For example where I live the age of consent is 16, unless the older party is in a position of power over the other, then it becomes 18. Like, of course it's just an arbitrary line. No one disputes that. It isn't even really what we are talking about when we talk about pedophiles. There was a 50-something year old dude near me arrested recently for having ~10k pictures of girls aged between two and 14, and for having touched several in that age range as well. Even by 1800s standards that would be considered disgusting and criminal. Those are the kinds of people we are talking about here. There were plenty of things we did in the past that caused immense suffering/trauma for those involved. I don't think that your argumentative style is worth my time engaging with, so this will be my last response to you.

I mean… just no… It’s illegal because the majority of the population find it repulsive, exploitative to the highest degree, and harmful, like murder or rape…

This seems like a relatively new phenomena here. I’ve seen like 4 or 5 dudes in the past month like this with stubborn ideas about how dating works or should work, but who also have limited or no experience In general though, most of the guys giving dating advice here have a reasonable amount of experience I’d say, especially longer term members I also agree that any dating advice that is overly theoretical is questionable tho. It’s like trying to learn football or basketball by reading books. Yea maybe you can get some valuable info but getting lost in theory is likely detrimental

I’m always sceptical when I see people refer to themselves as tier 2. Kinda reminds me of how you see a ton of people self-type as INFJ with MBTI because it’s often perceived to be a very desirable and intriguing type. But then upon further examination those people sometimes lack even basic social skills. Like unless you’ve really got your shit together in life you can’t really call yourself tier 2. You have to have thoroughly taken care of all the survival shit in life, to the point where most people in lower stages would look at your life and go ‘wow’ or at very least respect you for what you’ve done and experienced. To be tier 2 you have to have experienced a lot of what life has to offer and integrated all of the lower stages pretty thoroughly. I’m not necessarily targeting this at you, it’s more of a general observation with not only SD but any kind of personality metric. People very very often type themselves what they want to be rather than what they really are.

How attractive/valuable you are is very important for both initiating and maintaining a long term relationship. They are foundational. If you are not attractive/valuable then why should you expect that anyone would want to commit to you and love you for the rest of their life? How that value/attraction is provided is different for men and women. But looks and success do play a big role in attraction. Among many many other things. It is also a noticeable pattern that the people who consistently and bitterly talk about how much they resent superficial attraction, tend to be those who struggle with it. As a guy if you develop yourself into an attractive person then it makes it much easier to start building healthy long term relationships

What are the chances you meet the perfect girl for you on your first try? Almost zero Why are there so many dudes with zero experience on the forum preaching about how to approach dating recently, it’s so silly. You all need to go and actually talk to some women romantically before deciding you know what you’re talking about Its a strategy employed by low value dudes to compensate in the dating market for being low value

Normally I'd disagree with something targeted like this, but I'm like 95% sure the dude is a troll from that thread about race IQ, so who cares

Many people go to uni/college for the social aspect rather than the education. I don't think that's bad either. Having top notch social skills and connections will likely get you much further in life than an engineering degree. I'd swap my First class CS degree for top tier charisma and social skills in a heartbeat. Plenty of people are also content being nurses, social care workers, psychologists etc. and find that very fulfilling even if they don't pay exceptionally well. It depends what you want out of life.

They're more likely to increase your EQ and creativity than your IQ.

I had sex on acid recently (though I was high and she wasn't) and it enhanced it a lot for both of us It made me far more open and loving before we fucked, she said she felt very cared for and loved by the way I was acting towards her on acid, which I assume made her way more turned on and horny than usual. The only downside was I couldn't physically cum, I think because of the vasoconstriction. But I had almost like multiple mental orgasms. It was very bizarre, but good.

Is this based on real world experience with romantic relationships? It's possible your relationships have been toxic. Healthy relationships don't play out like this. This reads very bitter, like a woman has wronged you in the past and now you're generalising your experience to all women. That's trauma and you should try to overcome it. All 'the game' is, is a way of meeting lots of girls. You can play the game in a way where you are looking for a deeper connection. Rather than try to make tons of assertions about how dating and love should work, go and learn how it works through experience. Why have you not done this? You are painting yourself as an authority with as far as I can tell quite limited experience. Why? Deep, healthy, and loving relationships take practice. You will almost certainly not get it right on your first try. Or probably even on your second or third try.

If you care so much about making the world a better place then take some action towards making that happen. Yes we should aim to make the world a better place to live for all, but you can't just be overly naïve about it and say "the world should just be perfect and easy right this very second and I'm going to be angry that it isn't" It also isn't especially clear what your point is with regard to attraction. I think you are trying to say that attraction doesn't need to be hard and brutal, but that you also don't want to impose any restrictions on who can date who. So what is your solution then? Everyone just ignores what they find attractive in others? Good luck making that happen I also went through a stage like both you and @Mesopotamian where I convinced myself I was above all the petty materialistic human BS, and it turned out that for me it was because I had so little experience of the world, and it was ultimately based in deep insecurity about myself and what I could accomplish. Not saying that's what is the case with both of you, but it was for me.

Oh, I think you are agreeing with me. I thought you were disagreeing at first

I mean I understand that being on psychedelics would allow you to perceive yourself turning into an alien. But leo is presenting it as though he is able to do this independent of psychedelics, in the so called 'material' world such that a camera should be able to pick it up. But then acts confused that a camera can't pick it up.

I tend to use snapchat where it's pretty standard to send picture messages. That's a happy medium and works well. Also, you can text without being boring.

I like pretty much all of the actualized.org content, I think it's a fantastic resource, and I like this forum. I just don't like that Leo is claiming to be turning into an alien, but that a camera can't capture it. He said he's desperately looking for a camera that can capture it, implying every one he's tried can't. That comes across as very unhinged, especially since he is experimenting with powerful psychedelics. There are basically two possibilities. Either Leo is experiencing things far beyond me that I am nowhere near ready to explore, or he's deluded himself. I have no idea which is true, but either way I don't really have an interest in pursuing whatever it is Leo is experiencing right now. I want to focus on basic spirituality and groundedness, like Leo did for many many years before reaching wherever he is now. I feel like others would benefit from that as well. This feels like the kind of post that may get me kicked out of here, if that's the case, so be it.

That's what I would actually do, yea. The block thing was a bit of an exaggeration. I've done voice messages before but it's usually after I know someone a bit better. It's a bit much when you just start talking to someone, I think it would weird out a lot of girls too.

Gotta admit, that hit the part of my mind that triggers alarm bells too.

I might ghost a girl who did this to me if I'm honest lol Maybe that's my introversion not liking voice/video messages with people I don't know though. I just feel like it's too much for someone you just met

I have no interest in wherever you want to take this. I wish you the best and hope you are able to get the results with girls you want

Mate this is a self-development forum, I’m giving you practical advice based on my impression of you, you can either choose to take it or ignore it. I’m not trying to debate you.

@Mesopotamian Mate you need to go outside, touch grass, and talk to some girls You’ve been thinking about dating a relationships too much. Time to take some action, less thinking.