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His comments about women/dating are probably the number one criticism Leo gets on here. Actually Leo gets criticised a fair bit on here thinking about it. I haven’t seen any especially bad comments about dating/women from Leo in a while so it seems like he at least has the ability to change his own behaviour. Same goes for the suicide issue. I haven’t seen any especially bad one liners that might directly inspire someone to do anything stupid in a long time. There are also many disclaimers that you should not follow actualized.org content if you’re not mentally stable and in a good place. I don’t really know what more he could do whilst also still teaching his ideas. There is plenty to criticise Leo for but it still feels like a stretch to say he’s on the same level of toxicity as someone like Tate. Certainly not 10x more.

Like with a lot of stuff when it comes to dating you really have to just use your judgement and common sense. I’d say the point at which someone stops being able to keep track of a conversation, or they start slurring their words, is really when you should 100% bail. But probably even before that if you’re stone cold sober. There’s a point when you’re drunk that alcohol switches from being a stimulant to a depressant, and that’s around the same point you should bail too. If that person still shows lots of interest, just get their phone number and message them when they’re sober too.

The videos of that supposedly consensual BDSM don’t look especially consensual. Or at the very least the girls don’t look or sound like they’re very into whatever is happening. It was an extreme example but it fits in with his personality and the ideology he sells. Pursue sex at all costs without any regard whatsoever for women as human beings with feelings. There are many catches. When it comes to dating, the advice he offers is basically rehashed redpill, which might get you results sure, but it will also do lasting damage to your ability to form healthy relationships and deep connection with women. Hence the selling your soul to the devil for sex comment. You can learn to be attractive and have tons of sex without having to learn all the redpill Andrew Tate shit. So if that is possible, why bother following Tate?

How exactly?? I think my viewpoint is fairly reasonable, maybe presented a little harshly which I’m sorry for. But otherwise I don’t think it’s so crazy that you can just dismiss it with “you don’t know what you’re talking about” Essentially my point is “you are going to be influenced deeply by all aspects your role models so choose them wisely” which is not unreasonable I don’t think.

I don't feel hate, so much as confusion at why someone would think Tate is a good role model. The aggressive speech is more of an expression of confusion rather than hate. Look mate, if you wanna place him as your role model you do you. But you're ultimately not going to be able to take only the good masculine qualities of someone like Tate and discard the rest of his toxic traits. It just doesn't work like that for someone with such extreme viewpoints. At least Leo is a more balanced individual overall. And Leo also hasn't committed any heinous crimes. You're going to get negatively influenced by that stuff if you follow him, just like you end up emulating your parents' traits without even realising, good or bad.

If you think Andrew Tate is a good role model, by all means follow his example. Just don't bitch and whine when you end up in jail for rape or find yourself miserable, and morally + spiritually bankrupt. Even if he has some good masculine traits, you can find role models with those from many other places without having to deal with all the toxic rubbish that comes with Tate. If you think you can follow him and only extract his good masculine traits without being toxified by the rest of his personality and ideology, more power to you, but you're probably wrong. People get influenced extremely easily by all aspects of their role models. It's basically selling your soul to the devil for pussy and money, and frankly you don't deserve respect as a man if you decide to be so shortsighted and shallow as to do that. And you might not even get the sex or money promised to you because he's basically a con-man who offers little of real value to you beyond potentially being someone who's behaviour you could emulate.

I think that she might end up getting hurt. A lot of girls have an instinct to try and convert you from being a player-type guy into being in a committed relationship if they really like you. If she's messaging you out of the blue many months later there's a chance she likes you more than she is letting on and is saying whatever she needs to in order to see you again Or maybe she does just want it to be casual. But I would certainly be careful.

This sounds kinda manipulative, idk. it’s possible you’re in the right and he’s being toxic but the way you frame things thus far doesn’t sound particularly healthy to me either A parent showing concern/caring over their child is pretty normal, especially when they are potentially moving in with someone new. It isn’t toxic for him to simply not like you. My ex’s parents didn’t really like me and you just kinda have to deal with it As a BF you should never try to intentionally distance your partner from their family, even if you don’t get on well with them. That’s their decision to make. You support and offer perspective/guidance, but you don’t manipulate or scheme

It's pretty normal for people to call their family members every day. My current GF speaks to her mum on the phone once or twice a day There are a few ways to frame this. Either it's a rightfully concerned Dad who cares about his daughter, it's just a Dad who wants to keep in touch with his daughter, or he's being overprotective and controlling. You haven't given enough context for anyone to tell which it is. And either way, it's not really your place to do anything about it. You shouldn't be trying to interfere in her family matters. You should support her in dealing with family issues, but not get involved

if he was compassionate he would break up with her

I don’t care how you mean it, it makes you sound like an asshole and you should know that you’re being manipulative and likely hurting this girl

If you are choosing to stay with a girl you don’t really like, or respect, that’s incredibly selfish. And when you combine that with talking about how enlightened you are… Well, you shouldn’t be with a girl who you consider below your standards. Let’s leave it at that

Huh? I can't trek from my own home

I'm planning a month (or perhaps month and a half) trip to Nepal this May, mainly to do some trekking. But I was wondering if anyone here has been, and has any recommendations for other things to do there? I'm going to work while I'm out there (as I'm able to work remotely) and then take some time off to explore. The two things that are top of my list right now are the 14ish day Annapurna circuit trek, and a flight around Everest and the Himalayas. I'm asking here since Nepal is known for its spiritual culture, so this feels like a good place to ask for recommendations Thanks in advance!

I mean, humans form deep emotional bonds with animals all the time. So it’s not that crazy of an idea

Oh, nice! What did they teach? It looks like such a beautiful country. Especially the trekking there.

Most people are unconsciously bigoted and racist. There are numerous studies on this And yea, obviously ideally no one should be racist to any race, but it's very different when the more powerful societal race is racist towards the less societally powerful race. Just like how it's worse when a 6ft5 120kg man hits a 5ft1 50kg girl than vice versa. The power dynamic there means that racism going from more societally powerful race to less societally powerful race is much, much more damaging than vice versa.

@mr_engineer Or, hear me out, large public gatherings are a public health hazard in a pandemic that would result in the deaths of thousands of people. So many governments stopped them.

@mr_engineer what could be better in the middle of a pandemic than karen and her entire church group of 200 people crammed together protesting in the middle of a city dont see anything that could go wrong there no risk of death at all /s I also don’t even think protests were exclusively outlawed. Public social gatherings were outlawed because it’s a fucking pandemic!!! twisting that as “outlawing protests” is intellectually dishonest

It isn’t communist. It’s just factually wrong to say that. Communism is an economic political system. Wokeism, or caring about social justice, is not comparable to it. You can be pretty woke, and care about social justice, while running a company. My bosses are a great example. Being woke doesn’t make you a communist, it just means you care about societal wellbeing and social issues, which is not communism.

Mate communism is an economic political system, wokeism is mainly about social injustice, race issues, gender issues or any issues related to typically marginalised groups. The two are only loosely overlapping terms/groups at most. Saying “all wokeism is communism” is Olympic level mental gymnastics. Some of the most wokeist people are likely running profitable businesses in silicone valley and other such places

Ehm, care to explain…? If you take the actual definitions of all of those words as far as I’m aware everything I wrote is true

So in practice, you think that “wokeism is communism”? Would you describe Stalin or Mao as wokeists, then?

If you want a really funny example of what not to do, have a look at this dude https://youtube.com/@DavidBond99 In one of his videos he tells you a great tip for stopping a girl you like from meeting other guys on tinder while you’re chatting to her on there. The simple trick is to share her profile to your several burner phones and report her profile to get her banned! Who knew it was so simple. But the whole premise of his channel is essentially being a rich white dude visiting poorer countries have sex with women. And of course he films it all and gives his piercing insight into his success, which is of course, definitely, far deeper than just being a rich white guy in a poorer country. I don’t think travelling to another country to meet women is bad necessarily but it is quite easy to do it in kind of a scummy way

Saying that “all wokeism is authoritarianism” is false. Saying that “all authoritarianism is communism” is false. Saying that “all communism is authoritarian” is false. Saying that “there were authoritarian implementations of communism in the past” is true. So I have no idea how you are concluding that “wokeism is communism”, it highlights your bias a lot to make a statement like that