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I have also noticed lots of people doing this. And a common response is “well it used to be biased against the right wing in previous versions, so the developers are still clearly biased, muh propaganda, muh brainwashing” But no! This argument is silly because if in a previous version it would not praise right wing activists and then in a future version it would, that means the programmers have explicitly and intentionally programmed in an ability to praise right wing activists in attempt to make the AI neutral and unbiased.

All I said was that what you originally pointed out as 'mental gymnastics' and 'discrediting tate' was neither of those things. Nothing in your last two multi-paragraph replies to me addresses that original point at all. To precisely clarify, the only point I made was that the following statement: is not 'mental gymnastics' or 'discrediting tate'. I then followed that up by saying that you interpreting that as an attack on Tate shows a deeply seated bias towards defending him at all costs. I'm sorry, but I simply can't see how anything you said after that addresses this core point I was making.

That’s all well and good but it’s not related to what was said previously that you claimed was discrediting or mental gymnastics. In fact you actually agree with it here as far as I can tell.

That's not even discrediting, or mental gymnastics?? You're actually biased towards seeing everything as an attack against him, I think.

I don't think it's comparable. One is privileged people throwing a temper tantrum, possibly even paid by oil companies themselves to make activists look bad, the other is most likely coming from a place of deep empathy for their fellow people's troubles.

People don't glorify it per se, it's more pointing out that it's possible. It clearly requires some exceptional level of mental fortitude which the vast majority of people will never have, so it deserves some attention even if it's quite twisted. If I remember right, many of them did it as protest against the mistreatment of their fellow people. Not dissimilar to suffragettes, for example.

You were talking about suffering previously, not happiness. If you’re able to set yourself on fire without flinching then there probably isn’t much that can make you suffer. It also doesn’t mean you’re happy per se, just that you have transcended suffering. In particular I was commenting on how you were saying that being able to transcend suffering is a fairytale, when really there is no way you could know that unless you’d tried literally every method in the universe to transcend suffering.

It’s still a lot more status and money than your average dude would have

I'm pretty sure he was rich-ish and well known before that, he used to be a champion kickboxer or something

I agree almost entirely. Most guys are bad with women because they're criminally under-socialised and most of the advice by PUA types doesn't really solve that. Too much theory and ideas when really the solution is to just to leave your cheeto-dust covered mancave, go out and meet tons of people. The only thing I perhaps disagree with is that often the dating advice I've been given by women that I know has been very ehhh, wholesome. I don't think most members of either sex are particularly good at giving dating advice to the other sex. Also, welcome back

How would you even know for sure that it’s just a fairytale? There are Buddhist monks that set themselves on fire and seem relatively unphased

Multiple times I've seen people claim ChatGPT said left-wing biased stuff like this that I'm never able to replicate. The only one I could ever replicate was asking it to tell a joke about a man and a woman, and that was patched in the last version.

Even as a dude most people will gave you a basic level of respect just for being a fellow human. People who don't do that are assholes.

Now I just need to steal his body too I’ve never been told I look like him in real life but it’s still interesting to hear

Cold approach during the day is weird, my opinion on it fluctuates a lot. It's the kind of thing where coming up with a definitive yes or no for whether it's acceptable is near impossible. You have to judge case by case. Plenty of guys who don't even know what pickup is talk to girls during the day, you see it a lot if you look, and they are by no means creepy (for the most part), they are often very confident. Mostly these are dudes who are just going about their day normally rather than going out specifically to approach girls and I think that's the key difference. They don't leave their house to go to their local high street on a Saturday morning and talk to every girl they see, they just talk to girls they see as they go about their day. But even then, a lot of dudes who do the former style of hardcore cold approach during the day still get excellent results from it, so how can you complain? I notice many of them often have elaborate lies they make up to tell women they about why they are out, and I think that again highlights the key point here which is that leaving your house specifically to approach girls during the day is the creepy part. Not actually talking to girls you see during the day.

A technology like this has to be regulated. The designers are likely being cautious because we don't actually know what the implications of having unrestricted technology as powerful as this available to the masses are yet. It's basically just center-left because center-left perspectives are safer and less offensive. It's not about propaganda, it's about preventing people from being offended so that the designers can continue to work on improving this technology as time goes on, instead of it falling to the same fate as previous AI projects like TayAI which were far less restricted.

How do you know? People fake its responses all the time

Don't believe everything you see on the internet

That's good. I feel like that advice might be too wholesome though. Kind of like if you ask ChatGPT for dating advice. You get very tame, watered down advice. Or perhaps it actually is good, I have no idea, that's just my instinct. Either way, it's a step in the right direction.

Not really. Some of the dumbest people I've ever met believed they were exceptional and proclaimed it to others all the time. Not saying that's you, simply that you need some kind of qualification to determine what an exceptional man actually is and whether or not that is actually you. If I sit at home playing video games and eating cheetos for 12hrs a day but I've convinced myself I'm an exceptional man then I'm actually delusional, not exceptional.

This is so black and white, I think you could do with some more nuance in this viewpoint. Exceptional people come in all shapes and sizes. To say "exceptional men should exert their will on the world" is problematic because plenty of exceptional people should actually have their ability to assert their will on the world stripped. Hitler being the classic example. Men and women can both be exceptional in good and bad ways, and it requires an exceptional amount of wisdom to judge whether those exceptional people are helpful or harmful towards building a healthy and strong society.

A large part of it is lack of healthy masculine dating role models, combined with social isolation, combined with people’s tendency to play the victim instead of try to enact change.

Maybe if he was I’d find it easier to build muscle but thank you, hahaha

I was out last night and ran into a dude I knew from a while back. He was bi and tried to make out with me on the dance floor the first time I met him lmao, but he’s a chill dude and we ended up having a great night together talking to girls. In the end we brought three girls back to my flat, two of them left after a couple hours but one stayed longer. She’d been giving clear signs she was interested in me, but I know my friend was also very interested in her. She was pretty clear she wasn’t interested in him though. So obviously when the two other girls left it made for a very awkward situation, just me, her and him. She was still interested in me, and my friend was very pissed when she showed her preference for me. At one point he was making very forward advances that she very directly rejected. At the end he came to me in my kitchen (where she wasn’t) and was really sad and asking me not to fuck her. At the time I was really turned on and she was pretty cute so I didn’t know what to say. He got really pissed when I didn’t unambiguously say I wasn’t gonna fuck her, he left and then blocked me on everything this morning saying that we could’ve been good friends if I hadn’t done that, which I think is true, he was a great guy and we got on really well Part of me feels like a dick, and had the roles been reversed I’d absolutely feel like shit at the rejection. But at the same time she wasn’t interested in him anyway, and she made it quite clear to him. It’s not like if I wasn’t there they’d have had sex Anyway, I feel bad and I would like to stay friends with the guy. I have one of his friends contact info so I might ask him to help reconcile. But I basically want an external opinion on whether I was an asshole or not and what I should’ve done

That’s absolutely a fair POV. I agree with that entirely. I’m assuming this is a US thing because such people would get the surgery for free or cheap in lots of other countries, or essentially any first world country