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@Bobby_2021 Fuckin amazing job compiling this all together btw, it's very useful to see it laid out in one place Idk how you could read all this and still think Tate is worthy of support.

This is such a silly vision IMO. In fact, it's so vague that it's barely even a vision. It's like a high 15 year old came up with it. "Listen bro, I want to make an app that does everything, it will be awesome bro trust me" I think it will end up being some weird "jack of all trades, master of none" kind of thing. And when it comes to online services people tend to like a specific service with a strong brand that does one thing well, instead of a service that does lots of things poorly.

That's an interesting stat! Though I do think it's important context that this stat is specifically for marriage, not relationships, see text below. Liberal people place slightly less overall importance on marriage and so are less likely to try hard to make it work. And it's quite well known that woman initiate most divorces, which implies they are the ones who are typically least satisfied in their marriage.

He really is a knob

The logo looks so dumb. This popup shows up when you try to view twitter without an account, so you would want this page to look as professional as possible. The logo looks like it was designed and added by a first year intern. It's so blurry! The padding is also awful and the text below it is uncentered! It might sound picky but it just looks so unprofessional. I feel like musk has lost a lot of his skilled developers.

I would say you should frame it as "have fun" instead of "don't be boring". "Don't be boring" is making it about trying to be entertaining for other people, which can be inauthentic sometimes. A lot of the time the most attractive mental states come from just doing what entertains you when you're out rather than trying to "not be boring" for other people. Another one is learning not to take rejection personally, be detached, and just move on when things aren't going well. I noticed when I went out a lot that there were many guys who were super persistent with girls who were clearly not interested, or were using them for drinks.

Physical beauty gets boring much quicker than intelligence which is a problem for long term relationships Maybe boring is the wrong word, but you become accustomed to it once you’ve been with a woman for a while and it stops mattering as much

The opening you are talking about is something that is relatively difficult to pull off, there's a lot that can go wrong. The HOW you say/do it is very difficult to get right because of WHAT you are saying/doing. But the HOW you say it is still more important. Does that make sense? It is like how an olympic diver can probably jump off a 100ft cliff into the ocean and survive, but if you try it you will die. So you should avoid it and stick to 10ft cliffs until you know what you are doing. Of course. But there are well documented things that the majority of women find creepy. Unusual, uncomfortable or awkward initial interactions are quite high on that list. So it's a good skill to be able to open conversations with new people and make them feel safe and comfortable.

It conveys pretty much all of the traits listed if you do it with the right energy in the right social environment. OP would do much better with that than what he is trying. OP wasn't really opening with a gender related opinion question, he was opening with a video on his phone about a man invalidating period claims. It's not really playful enough to be a good opener, and has the potential to be very clunky. There is lots of opportunity for awkwardness while a complete stranger is making her watch something on his phone. And then if you follow that up with trying to steer the conversation towards a sexual topic like OP said he was going to do, can you not see how that could very easily become creepy? I'm not saying you couldn't pull that off, but there is lots of opportunity for that to go quite wrong if you aren't very socially in-tune and you are running this opener against random women on the street. You would need to preface showing the video with some kind of more playful conversation and context as to why you care so much for her opinion on it.

It's still a bizarre thing to use as an opener. It doesn't give off any of the vibes you want an opener to give off. You want your opener to convey: intelligence humour confidence charm social awareness safety That can be as simple as "Hey, nice to meet you, I'm [name]" said with a smile and confidence, which can convey many of those attributes. Showing a tiktok about periods to a girl you haven't even introduced yourself to yet gives off none of these. In fact it gives off the opposite vibe in many cases.

Being a machiavellian psychopath might get you to the higher echelons of society but it probably won't make you fulfilled or happy. His presence and image here is soooo cringy The way he lights the cigar before he starts talking and sits there showing off his bulging biceps, talking about how he's too smart for the BBC, calling them an extremist organisation... and that beard lmao.... None of that screams mastery, it screams boy in a mans body desperately trying to compensate for his crippling insecurity. He may be right about the BBC interview being bad, it wouldn't surprise me, and I don't have enough information to know. The BBC is pretty shitty, but calling them an extremist organisation is borderline delusion. The way he talks and his whole image and style is just something I can't bring myself to watch or enjoy, even if I agree with him on certain topics about young men. Almost every sentence he says is silly, for example, one that stands out to me: "they are attempting to throw me in jail and ruin my life because I am helping young men" — no andrew, they are attempting to throw you in jail because you admittedly and proudly ran a sex trafficking organisation which scammed MEN out of millions.

I don't get it. Every time I watch him talk I almost can't watch it from cringe. What is it you see in him that you like so much? Like what content is available from him online that you have watched that made you fall in love with him in this way? Every time he is brought up I just think of this clip. The full version is even more cringy.

Why not just ignore that behaviour and move on with your life?

What consequences do you have in mind?

You can learn from Tate, or other people who have done bad things, just don't set them as role models

You are going up to girls and showing them a TikTok invalidating period pains as an opener? What are you smoking mate? Nothing about that is going to turn a woman on.

Greasy long hair would be a big problem. However well maintained long hair is considered very attractive. To be honest I am thinking the energy you give off is likely the main issue. You make a lot of posts here every time something goes wrong for you which gives off an erratic vibe that can be very scary for women if you are giving off those same vibes in real life. I am just giving my honest impression of you, I don’t mean to be rude. Most guys who are inexperienced give off weird vibes, it’s quite normal. I think you need to work on becoming slightly more grounded before you go and talk to tons of woman.

It’s obviously something sexual and you imply it’s about a sexual act. You also, and I’m sorry to be blunt, do seem to lack the social awareness that would be required to pull that off without being creepy at least some of the time. Your therapist probably knows that about you and that’s why she’s telling you to avoid it, because she knows it has the potential to end badly for you because of lack of social skills. A woman can’t get you put in jail for showing them TikToks, but many women in the same area reporting you for being creepy probably could, rightfully so. The art of flirting is turning normal conversations, or as you put it, “the most boring vanilla shit”, into something more exciting slowly and gracefully. But you are being impatient by trying to rush it with gimmicks, which is very hard if you don’t know what you’re doing. Women appreciate build up to sexual conversations so they can figure out if they feel safe around you. Start with that first.

If you lack confidence, give off bad/creepy energy, are dressed badly, or have poor hygiene/grooming it could cause this reaction. It’s also possible you are misinterpreting social cues and thinking women are disgusted when they are just not interested. No you should not treat them with disrespect. You should learn to understand why your actions are causing them to feel a certain way and try to make changes based on that.

Tate was involved in trafficking and manipulating a ring of women, scamming men out of millions, maybe even tens of millions. Entire investigative departments are dedicated to catching and stopping fraudsters, scammers, and traffickers like that. It's also important to remember that legality aside, the ethics of someone who has shamelessly done things like that should not be emulated or idolised. These are serious crimes that harm innocent people. I've heard that he's pretty mediocre at chess. It's also crucial not to idolize someone just because they might excel in a few areas of life while disregarding their harmful behavior in other aspects of life. You want your role models to be well rounded people. I'll be honest; your defense of him sounds a bit immature. Are you young? Perhaps there could be some value in what he offers if you're mature enough to separate the good from the harmful aspects. However, it sounds like he has a very strong influence on you, which may not be entirely positive.

I've only ever found one girl who can make me cum from a blowjob, before that I didn't like them either. Now I can't get enough, lol.

Obsessing over getting something perfect the first time around is not an effective strategy. You’re going to fail at stuff in life and as long as you can learn from your mistakes, it’s better to make some mistakes while you make progress than be paralysed by inaction trying to get something perfect the first time round. Most of the time they’ll still wipe the floor with a newbie developer when it comes to fundamental skills of software development even if they’re not up to speed on all the latest tech. Disregarding everyone in a field with much more experience than you because you think you know better as a newbie who read some books is the definition of being foolish. Both will have a 100% rate of killing you. You cannot learn surgery by reading books. At this point, we are so abstracted away from the original topic I’ve stopped giving a fuck. Enjoy your life mate, I hope you get your perfect relationship first try

I mean that's a decent start I suppose, but you're still mostly going off bits and pieces of experience from the sidelines. If I was going to take relationship advice I'd still go with someone who's been in 2 to 5 long term relationships over any of this. My little experience as a novice programmer may contradict what a senior developer of 20 years has to say about programming, but it could be because I'm so inexperienced that I can't actually comprehend why he says what he says. You're experiencing the Dunning-Kruger effect right now. You are right though, people who are in 50 year marriages may also have shitty opinions on relationships, especially if that marriage has been their only long term relationship or they live in a conservative country where they were forced or pressured into it. You need theory + practice for success. Both of these imaginary doctors are equally likely to kill you if they perform surgery on you. Good luck to you and your paradigm shifting ideas

That is my point they don't sit around thinking and theorising, they train Most college degrees don't teach you shit about how to get anything done in the real world because they are so theory focused. If you study something where college degree is actually required and useful like engineering or medicine then they are combining the practical and theoretical stuff in your degree and not just teaching you theory. How have you seen how these concepts play out in real life practically? Most of these aspects you listed in a relationship will play out behind closed doors where you cannot observe them. You don't have to jump directly into a relationship, you should do it when you are ready. What is silly is doing all of this theorising and talking like you are an authority on relationships before you have had a single one. The analogy for you is more like: Imagine your surgeon telling you he's never done any surgery before, but he is also telling you he is an expert because he's read all the surgery textbooks for 5 years. You'd not take what he was saying very seriously and would ask for a different surgeon. 'Mostly' is just categorically the wrong word to use here. There are some where the man is a king, prince or CEO. But it is not most. Overall to me it seems like you need to map out, plan, and control every aspect of a relationship before you have one, which is a recipe for disaster. You cannot control a relationship like that. It is not in the nature of how a successful relationship works.

The point is exactly what I wrote. Metaphorically, the same thing that would go wrong if you thought about boxing hyper-logically for 5 years, had no actual experience physically boxing, and then fought in a real boxing match. Or sat theorising about graphic design for 5 years, did no actual drawing, and then took on a graphic designer job. In both cases you are not going to significantly improve your chances of success by spending those 5 years analysing each field hyper-logically. Relationships are very similar. You can and should think logically about relationships, that is part of your role as a man, but you need the actual experience to make the logical thinking worthwhile. Otherwise you're just mentally-masturbating in your bedroom. Almost no rom-coms or romance novels are pitched towards men, lol. Rom-coms cover a massive range of plots, not just this finance dynamic you are focusing on. Different plots to cater to different women with different preferences.