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If you want to use the greek letter classifications, women have tolerance for betas. What they won't tolerate much are gammas or omegas. The men at the very bottom of the social hierarchy who contribute little value to the rest of society. Most often they leech value instead which is what makes them so unattractive to women, since women want men who radiate value to others. If you have poor social skills and you go to a mall to spam approach women, you are signalling a lot of 'bottom of the hierarchy' stuff about you since most guys, even beta guys, don't need to go to those lengths to get a date. That means if you want to make mall spam approaching work you have to learn to trick women into thinking that you just happened to run into them while going about your day.

How dare you swear like that! Watch your language

Most of the time I see him shitting on the sketchy PUA dudes, or saying that the pickup community is trash and lacks any integrity. I really don’t see what’s got you so angry

‘bypassing’ socual skills and attracting the opposite sex won’t work well for most people. It’s likely not a healthy approach to life. Also Leo has posted more conscious and intelligent content on YT than you could likely ever fully consume in your whole life, yet you’re angry that he makes the occasional forum post about how to get laid. You should probably reflect on why that makes you feel so bitter.

Successful romantic relationships are an incredibly important part of life. Writing stuff like this just gives off the impression that you’re bitter about a lack of healthy sexual relationships in your own life.

Because having money and then choosing not to spend it on expensive dates is very different from being cheap on dates because you’re broke. The former is attractive and the latter is neutral at best and an extreme turnoff at worst. I’m not saying you need money, you can be dead broke and attract women. But usually only if you’re driven to contribute at least something towards society like music or art that makes you seem like a guy who a woman would be proud to introduce to her friends. But if you’re broke, miserable, directionless and sex-obsessed your value proposition to woman is not high. You need to be thinking about getting your shit together in life and getting some direction before you start chasing women. Making some money would be a good starting point. Trying to life-hack your way into women’s panties solely through PUA personality adjustments is just not going to cut it. PUA advice mostly assumes you already have the basics of life covered.

There are some dudes out there who will do awful things to women. Even if it’s minority of men, a woman doesn’t know whether the current guy that’s talking to her poses a threat or not. Because of this she understandably becomes very sensitive towards odd behaviour in men. It’s not as deep as I think you would like it to be.

I'm not completely sure what you're saying, is your point that men shouldn't be simps basically? And have personality standards for women they talk to?

His direct revolutionary impact on these fields can be questioned. He put his money into the right places, but that doesn't make him a revolutionary genius. For example I have seen stories of how there are groups of people at Tesla and SpaceX that are specifically dedicated to managing Elon's behaviour to stop it from being destructive. These teams are essentially responsible for finding ways to reject his batshit crazy impractical ideas without harming his ego enough for him to shut his wallet. This would imply that although he is the owner, he is not the one doing the revolutionary work. I can't find the original video I watched which discussed this in more detail, but this article gets pretty close. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/21/technology/elon-musk-twitter-management.html At Twitter you are now getting a sense of what Tesla and SpaceX would have looked like if those departments to manage Elon didn't exist.

Yea, but do they want to cover your expenses too because you're dead broke? Well having those traits is how you have lots of sex, so you'd better get over that misery if you want it that badly.

Idk if Leo is really the kind of person Lex Fridman would interview. Lex is mainstream enough that it would be quite a high risk.

I don't know why, but this reminded me of when my friend sent me a link to a 4chan post where someone was asking people there to track down the woman in a photo which Leo posted here. It was a blurred photo of a woman he said he'd slept with. The 4chan post was worded quite aggressively too. Some people develop very unhealthy obsessions with others lol.

Because he can afford to take her on dates and actually do stuff with her. Lounging around doing nothing remotely productive all day sucks the energy out of you just as much as working a shitty job, but at least you get paid. And idk why you’re setting your ambition as burger flipping, you can do more than that. Ambition is attractive. Of course there is, just more of a personality adjustment than you want to make I think. There is no magical PUA personality adjustment which will turn you into a chad. Leo and others have talked on multiple occasions about how pickup is about transforming yourself into a sociable, well rounded, masculine man. It’s than not solely about learning how to get sex. The sex comes as a byproduct of improving those 3 attributes of yourself. That’s how you should view pickup to get benefit from it, not as some source of parlour tricks that make woman want to fuck you.

Right now with stuff like this you give off very strong entitled man-child vibes and that's not attractive to women at all, especially if you want casual sex. Having lots of casual sex requires you to be masculine. Zero responsibility, zero earning, zero prospects are not masculine at all so you are shooting yourself in the foot by dismissing the value these things offer. So unless you make up for this with top 0.1% charisma or extremely good looks, you are going to struggle to achieve your goal of having lots of different partners.

Being woke is good, but being inauthentically woke is painfully hard to watch. Multi-billion dollar companies built upon centuries of exploitation peddling woke messages to try and get good PR just comes across as so inauthentic. It’s so bad that it harms progress rather than helping it because it repels people and makes them think all woke stuff is bad.

Fair enough. I'm sorry if I came across as overly aggressive, looking back I was a bit harsh. Probably most human relationships are pretty shitty, but there are still plenty which are not. Lots of everyday people have healthy relationships you can learn from. I think my overall point was just that you should be careful not to smother the flame of a relationship by going too intense with someone too quickly. Many of the people I have met who have cycled through lots of relationships in a short space of time did this, and I thought maybe that could have applied to you too. I hope you find what you're looking for

Yes in an absolute sense you could say God is initiating the breakup. But my questions are in the relative domain because this is a thread about dating advice in the relative domain. In the relative domain, was it typically the women who were initiating these breakups, or was it you? What is it that you are looking for in a relationship that means you are cycling through so many women just now? I went through a period where I had lots of casual sex, many guys do. But I would not have considered any of them a relationship that required 'breaking up' and nor would the women either. Is this what you are after? If so then you should not be falsely leading on women into believing that you are more serious about them than you really are. No of course not, but you can't have a relationship with someone you barely know. If you spent 3 days a week with a person you just met for 1 month, then you've known them for 12 days. If you are spending more than 3 days a week with someone you just met, you are jumping into relationships way too fast and that's why they are all fizzling out after a month.

Now I'm just more curious. When you say serious breakup, what do you mean by that? Serious how? And typically who is initiating these breakups, you or the woman?

I don't mean to be rude, but you can't have a 'serious' breakup after just 1 month. If you are breaking up with girls or being broken up with by girls at the rate of 1 per month then I'd advise you to do some serious introspection instead of seeking out more relationships.

That's a fair point. However if that was the idea it seems strange to then make lots of rapid decisions that will alienate the original user base. To be fair, I thought Twitter had lost more users than it really has. It seems officially it's down 13% since Musk's takeover which is not really toooo bad. I've spoken to a fair few people who have stopped using it though so anecdotally 13% seems too low to me. I guess the people I know are not representative of Twitter's entire user base and are probably more left leaning i.e. more likely to abandon it than others. I do wonder if they collect user stats 'creatively' to inflate that number though. For example they now force you to have an account to do almost anything. The most annoying one is making you log in to see a user's most recent tweets instead of most popular. I've done that occasionally, which might result in me being considered an active user even though I don't use twitter more than once a month for less than 5 minutes to look at one account's tweets. Yea, the recent interview he did wearing the bomber jacket aligns with that analysis

It's not forbidden to criticise the decisions of people who are more successful than you. I don't think anyone would deny that Elon Musk has done some amazing things, many people just think that his erratic personal behaviour over the past few years is deserving of criticism. Ironically, claiming that your role model is beyond criticism is more cult-like than anything else in this thread.

Yea, this might qualify as the biggest impulse buy of all time. Even if he couldn't buy for a good price, another more financially sensible option would have been to make a twitter clone called X for a few million dollars and push people towards that. If his idea for an all-in-one platform is really so revolutionary it would have worked too. It's not like he doesn't have massive reach to push people towards it and grow it over time. And rebranding was a bizarre decision too. X is such an awful brand name. Pretty much the only valuable things about twitter were its brand and its user count and he decided to completely dump the brand.

It's an undeniable fact that Elon's genius business brain spent $44 billion on a $25 billion brand with a $4 billion company attached and then decided to annihilate the $25 billion dollar brand. If you want to ignore this and pretend in your mind that he's still some otherworldly genius then be my guest. This is a decision that is absolutely worthy of the criticism it receives, and if you cannot see that then you are so biased and blinded by love for Elon that you can't think clearly about this topic. No one at Tesla made any decisions even close to being that stupid. Elon certainly couldn't, because he had shareholders to answer to and departments managing him. I think Musk is (or at least was) a very smart guy, certainly in his early days he did many things that would make him worthy of being considered a good role model. But no longer. He acts like a child in a man's body now.

This must be a troll post, I thought all of the Elon Musk fanboys had died off He's pioneering is into the realm of how quickly you can fuck up an established corporation and lose 45 billion dollars. The only thing special about Twitter is that it was created first, and so had an established brand built up over 15 years. He literally bought a 15 year old brand for 45 billion dollars and then got rid of the brand. It will go down as one of the dumbest business decisions ever made.

Plenty of people work shitty retail or hospitality jobs and come out the other side fine, or even better. You just don't want to do it because of laziness and arrogance. But you are also intelligent enough to construct almost wise sounding excuses for that laziness and arrogance, this is an incredibly dangerous combination and it will destroy any progress you want to make in life if you don't change these thought patterns. What are you gonna do, sit at home doing nothing all day because you're too wise and have too much self respect to do the slightly less desirable jobs? Get off your high horse. Everyone has to do things they don't want to do in life.