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Sure, but ultimately you are still going to need to be the one who approaches first in most cases. I've been approached by girls a handful of times while out, and it's nice when it happens but it's not something worth relying on for most guys.

Lol, these women don't need to come up to you. Guys come up to them. Regarding older women, guys will approach older women less. Plus, as people get older they typically get more self-assured and confident. A combination of these things mean they'll start doing the approaching themselves a bit more.

A gold digger, by definition, is "a person who forms a relationship with another purely to extract money from them." It's clear that a dynamic like that is unhealthy—especially when you're referring to people as 'targets' to manipulate. You don't need an insider's perspective to see that. If anything, when your survival depends on extracting money from random rich guys then you're likely to be more biased than an outsider. And yea, lots of men will pursue women like targets, looking solely for sex. And they'll do almost anything to achieve it. I've met a lot of men like this and they lie and manipulate to get a woman home, finish inside her in 3 minutes, and then buy them an Uber home. These guys are exploitative and scummy too. In one scenario, someone is treated as an ATM; in the other, they're treated like a sex object. These probably aren't behaviours that anyone should be trying to defend or justify.

@Princess Arabia I don't mean to sound rude, but you have written a lot of words here without really saying anything or addressing any of the points that I made.

IMO in both cases referring to 'targets' makes you seem like a scumbag, lol. Being a 'gold digger' and 'looking for a man to provide for you' are very different. If you are looking for a provider man then you can make the argument that you at least care about the guy you want to take money from. You probably also want to be a traditional wife or whatever where you are actually contributing something useful to the relationship. Gold digger just means you are a leech upon society who wants to do the bear minimum amount of work to steal someone else's money. Pickup and looking to get laid can be compared similarly to the above example. Pickup is more akin to the gold digger where you essentially sacrifice all integrity in the name of getting laid. It's not really commendable at all. Finding healthy ways to get laid is very different from that.

Yea. I think this applies to quite a lot of things. Often heavily stressing yourself out about how bad/negative something is causes more harm than the thing itself. Moderate porn usage isn't going to hurt you that much but it can help take your mind off of sex and help you focus on other things.

Idk how to interpret the GIF, I assume you're disagreeing though lol

It's always worked for me. Being as direct and straightforward as you can get away with is your role as the man in the flirting game. When I used to go out and party a lot, I never thought of what I was doing as 'pickup' and I think that worked to my advantage. I wasn't thinking 'how do I manipulate this girl into sleeping with me' I was thinking more along the lines of 'how do I have fun and how can I make this girl's night more fun' which always seemed to work a lot better than my friends who were trying gamey shit like this.

Referring to women as a target just makes you sound like a serial killer. And the second quote just sounds extremely manipulative. Pickup is a good thing, but don't let it brainwash you into totally dehumanising women. Yes, if you turn into a sociopath who superficially manipulates women you might get more sex, but this comes at a massive cost to your integrity and you'll probably struggle to maintain any kind of healthy long term relationship with a mindset like that. Manipulation like this is kind of an unhealthy feminine trait. Focus on developing the basic healthy masculine traits like confidence, leadership, strength, wit etc. and you'll get more sex without sacrificing integrity.

This is kind of like looking for a book on how to get good at Basketball. Like, you can learn theory all day long but realistically the best way to learn is through practice. It's pretty hard to get good at sex through having lots of different partners, mostly you'll learn to get good at it when you are with someone longer term and you can try out lots of different things.

Well of course not, but the world is full of people using others like this. For example women stringing along men for their money. You gotta learn to avoid this kind of shit for yourself, but it's going to happen regardless.

Because a lot of men are extremely horny and not very picky because of that. Many will have sex with women who they aren't attracted to, they just want to have sex.

It's not that women want bad boys, they just want interesting, unique and valuable men. Men who make them feel intense emotions. If all you have to offer is that you are 'nice' then that's kind of boring.

Are you going out to nightclubs/bars or otherwise social places? or are you planning on approaching women on high streets?

Man brings a blanket to a shotgun fight (credit to YT comments for that line )

What Honey is doing is probably not categorically illegal. They only update the affiliate cookie when you click on their browser extension which pops up at checkout, so in theory they could probably argue that they got the 'last click' from the user and thus are owed the affiliate money. The issue is that almost everyone can see that this is extremely unfair. Especially when Honey can't even find you a coupon and their extension pops up with a little 'dismiss' button that if you click, will still replace the affiliate cookie with honey, despite them doing nothing for you. However, it likely isn't illegal because you did click on their service.

I live in the UK lmao. Unnecessarily crude language aside, idk where you're getting this idea from anyway. It's no different from any other Western country in terms of average body counts. In fact I think the UK is on the low side compared to a lot of other Western countries. I also backpacked SE Asia for the last year where STDs are supposedly rampant and never caught anything. I'm not saying there are no risks, just that if you are diligent about wearing a condom and have at least some standards, you're probably going to be fine. Pregnancy scares me a lot more.

Lmao that's not even relevant to this thread. If you have to shoehorn your opinions into a random convo it suggests you are arguing from a place of bias/insecurity rather than reality/experience. You should be worrying about getting someone pregnant unintentionally farrrrr more. That'll fuck your life up more than an STD. I've dated/hooked up a fair bit and I've never gotten an STD. If you always wear a condom, your risk is pretty low. And even if you get an STD, most of the time it isn't a huge deal.

Lol, tell this to starving children in poor countries. if you eat only an apple a day for a long period of time you'll starve to death. Let alone build any muscle.

I'm curious to see if Honey changes their business model after this. I think if a business like Honey legitimately do what they advertise and scour the web for the best coupon possible, then they deserve some reward for that. But it turns out they aren't finding you the best coupons most of the time, and they're stealing affiliate revenue even when they can't find you a coupon. Which is extremely scummy and greedy. If they do what they advertise they'll make a lot less money, but at least it's somewhat legit. I don't see how else they can recover from this tbh.

She's 15, don't expect coherent and well written thoughts. When I was her age I got dragged by the balls into the depths of anti-SJW content by YouTube's algorithm and If you'd asked me to justify any of the woman hating opinions I had then I would have probably written similar garbage.

Mine is not low and I'm still cripplingly socially anxious sometimes. High body count doesn't make you instantly confident.

If not in the regular conservative manner, then how? There aren't that many ways to regulate sex beyond the ways that conservatives have been doing for thousands of years.

@Medhansh Well done for having the courage to do what you're doing, it's very hard. However, are there places you can go out and do nightgame in Mumbai? Like nightclubs or something? Trying to meet women at random public places during the day is like hitting your head against a wall, most of the time. I'd say going out at night is a much better option. It's counterintuitive, if you are anxious or shy, you want to go to the busiest and most sociable places you can to meet people. Because this is where people are most open to chatting to strangers. Daygame has a very fundamental problem in that when you spam approach, most girls are asking themselves something along the lines of "why is this guy approaching women at a train station, if he was really worth my time he wouldn't need to do this."

@Nilsi You can put together a good enough outfit just from stuff you find in Uniqlo if you know what you're doing. You don't need to go anywhere special to get good looking clothes. It's worth spending good money on jackets, shoes and maybe accessories. Anything else just buy cheap stuff that fits from Uniqlo or other similar stores.