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Elon - ''The people of Venezuela want change!'' https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1818083055384322327 Not sure whats true or not with regards to whats currently going on there. US interference or actual cheating taken place by Maduro?
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They claim October 7th had mass rape take place (some probably did) , which they deny investigation into. Then, when Israeli sources evidence actual systemic rape by their own IDF who are detained, they protest to get them out. Who knows if this is justice or just a PR stunt to appease the West since being pressured by the ICJ rulings, UK not objecting to ICC arrest warrants for Bibi and now saying they will limit or stop arms sales to Israel. More balanced Israelis will see these protesters as far right and lay blame to Netenyahu, Ben Gvir and the like. But these are symptoms of a situation which necessitates the dehumanisation of the other, which warps the minds and political landscape in order for the situation to keep on existing as it is - as a occupation dominating another group of people. You can’t occupy another group, without warping your own psychology in order to do so. Regular Israelis will do their best to compartmentalise away the reality of their states existence and focus on the fact they are a “democracy” with Western “values” to sleep better at night. They’re correct about sharing in Western values, but the worst one they share is supremacism.
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Good summary of the most blatant lies. It’s a problem when people believe their own propaganda so bad they cocoon themselves away from reality. @Heaven Like most things, there is a spectrum, as with selfishness. Of course most humans will prioritise their family over others. But being selfish to such an extreme as to not care for others and collectively punish an entire group of people is inhumane. In dehumanising others, you dehumanise yourself, because it takes a stone heart to inflict such suffering. The irony is, you hail Israel and the West as democratic - which implies along with it human rights, law and order ie civilised. Yet, the very international system of law that the West created ruled Isreal as a apartheid state and occupier committing a plausible genocide - with international arrest warrants for the current head of that state (Bibi) who just spoke in front of congress - who clapped for him multiple times. The hypocrisy is so thick you could cut it with a knife, the moral bankruptcy among the political class is sickening to the point even every day people in the West don’t feel their politicians represent them. Meanwhile across the Atlantic pond: UK will not oppose right of ICC to issue arrest warrant for Israeli PM Netanyahu, says No 10 A Downing Street spokesperson says the matter is solely one for the court and that it believes "strongly in the rule of law and separation of powers” https://news.sky.com/story/uk-will-not-oppose-right-of-icc-to-issue-arrest-warrant-for-israeli-pm-netanyahu-says-no-10-13185164
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From your other posts in other threads you definitely aren’t a leftist. I got you, so you’re saying corruption came about exclusively due to Western intervention. Depending on the definition of corruption, you can both be right in different ways. If we take corruption at its most basic to mean the abuse of power for private gain - that is a universal thing. If we take it to mean the abuse of power for private gain at a industrial scale then yes that could easily be at the hands of the West, simply because they have the ability and leverage to cause such outcomes. What they call intervention is actually disruption, and disruption causes all kinds of chaos which makes corruption rife. Unstable environment cause stable profits for corrupt hands - and the US’s biggest industry being arms means that peace is bad for a return on that investment. They literally secure stable profits and power through instability.
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@Bobby_2021 Ideas are abundant, execution is scarce. You made a factual point about that, as did Leo about Musks ambition and work ethic. Many people can take a vision, take inspiration from one, or share with others in one. Very few have the will to see a vision through to fruition with all it entails. Even on the corruption / development back and forth earlier in the thread - Leo was pointing out that corruption and underdevelopment existed before Western intervention, maybe what he didn't give enough attention to was that fact that this is only perpetuated or made worse by Western intervention. Just as a example, I'v been in and out of Africa a lot in the past - its common place to bring a 'gift' when flying in as something to give airport security when they bother you or try tax you on something you are bringing in when they check your bags. A lot of daily interactions are like this especially if doing business or getting stopped on the road. Corruption is systemic and pervasive in developing countries, whilst in developed countries its just sophisticated - its that very sophistication though, which allows it to scale and have ripple affects far beyond its borders compared to developing countries forms of corruption which stays within their borders.
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While Netenyahu is about to address Congress in USA, China has facilitated 14 Palestinian factions including Hamas and Fatah to sign a agreement of unity to end divisions and pave the way for postwar governance - https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/23/china/hamas-fatah-palestinian-factions-beijing-intl-hnk/index.html UN top court says Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories is illegal - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjerjzxlpvdo#:~:text=The International Court of Justice,Strip as soon as possible. Friday's international court of justice (ICJ) ruling was a wholesale repudiation of Israel’s legal justifications for its 57-year (and counting) occupation of Palestinian territory - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/22/the-icj-has-demolished-israels-claims-that-it-is-not-occupying-palestinian-territories "Although the finding was hidden in legalese, the court ruled that Israel has imposed a regime of apartheid in the occupied Palestinian territory by virtue of its systematic discrimination against Palestinian residents. The A-word has been anathema in official Washington circles, despite detailed reports finding apartheid by Human Rights Watch and every other serious human rights organization to have addressed the issue.'' ''Lets remember that the country the West has protected, cherished, and idolised most religiously in all its years of existence, censoring and persecuting its own citizens for in the process is an apartheid state committing a century of ethnic cleansing and occupation and a current 10-month long live streamed destruction campaign that has been ruled as a plausible genocide. ''
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Thats the problem, they think they have the right to land, when international law says they don't - the same international laws their Western sugar daddies set up. The West can't claim to be the beacon of democracy and rule of law while supporting a state that's making a mockery of both.
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Isn’t it generally true that when people have children they tend to tilt towards conservatism. Like Russell Brand recently becoming a dad and now turning to Christianity. It's not just about faith - it's about the challenge of breaking down complex ideas for young minds. Distilling nuanced perspectives for kids isn't easy. So parents feel this pressure to present a solid identity, something their kids can latch onto and emulate. It's like they're trying to be a stable lighthouse in a often chaotic and confusing world. So most, out a of need for identity, belonging and convenience turn to religion. It's like a ready made kit of values and world views, neatly packaged in an easy to transmit format. It's the fast food of moral frameworks - quick, convenient, and easily passed down to the next generation. The issue is that along with those valuable life lessons comes a lot of baggage of religious literalism, dogma and half truths. This is why the left lacking a cohesive vision is a problem. It’s not enough for them to not like the rights vision, they need their own. They offer a freedom from (oppression, discrimination and dogma) but a freedom to .. something is missing, and people need something to unite around and offer guidance beyond just resistance to. People need frameworks, values and tools to evaluate what to do with their new found freedom otherwise they get lost in a sea of relativism, choices and mishandle their freedom. When you have a literal pregnant man emoji on a global messaging app almost quarter of the world use - that is easy picking for the right to point to as a excess of liberals / stage green which necessitates a pull back to conservatism and fuels their movement. 🫃🏻
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The West hasn’t always caused underdevelopment in other regions, as seen in the case of Russia, but historically, it has perpetuated the underdevelopment and exploitation of many countries. Corrupt local elites often collaborate with international financiers, primarily from Western nations, to maintain this status quo. The issue isn’t about who started the development race, but rather who is currently obstructing the progress of other countries to maintain their dominance and superiority. Just like with your point on Russian underdevelopment relative to Europe, likewise, during the early medieval period Europe was a backwater compared to flourishing civilizations in the East. The Islamic Golden Age saw trailblazers like Al-Khwarizmi, Ibn Sina, and Al-Biruni making strides in science, medicine, mathematics, and philosophy that later lit the way for Europe’s Renaissance. Through the translation movement where Muslim scholars preserved and expanded on Greek and Roman texts, Europe got a sniff of its classical heritage again. Let’s not forget the Crusades - while European knights were off fighting, they also brought back Eastern innovations and knowledge that significantly shaped European development. Meanwhile, Russia was muddling through its own underdevelopment until Peter the Great came along and started copying Western Europe’s homework. He dragged Russia towards modernity by adopting Western technologies and administrative practices, that were heavily influenced by Eastern cultures - this just highlights how interconnected development in the world is. What the left lacks is appreciation of Western contribution to development, what the right lack is the appreciation of other cultures contributing to their own cultures formative years of development in order to maintain a feeling of “West is best” superiority. The West’s self congratulatory narrative conveniently glosses over critical chapters in its history or rewrites them.
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True, we first need to define what we mean by progress or development. Development can be economic, ecological, political, social, or in terms of overall well-being. Who gets to define what is developed or not, and how well is the West even doing in these metrics? Economically, inequality is rampant, with debt maintaining the illusion of prosperity. Ecologically, the West exports pollution to the developing world and then congratulates itself for being green. Politically, they claim to be democratic but operate more like plutocracies or oligarchies, masked by slick PR and the spectacle of elections. Socially, urban life is marked by atomization, an epidemic of loneliness, and dysfunctional dating dynamics. Culturally, the West elevates the lowest forms of behavior, as seen with the latest viral sensation, the Hawk Tuah girl. Vulgarity and entertainment are glamorized, while grace and elegance are demonized or dismissed as "prudish." This contradiction is evident in the "passport bros" movement, where men seek traditional women from other countries. Health-wise, the majority of the population is medicated just to cope with the soul-crushing reality of this 'development’ - a dysfunctional system they'd like to export to the rest of the world. Maybe what is deemed "less developed" is just a different way of organising society. Maybe some places and people aren't underdeveloped - they're just differently developed, with priorities aligned to their environment and cultural values. Bhutan for example has its focus on Gross National Happiness instead of Gross Domestic Product. They've chosen to prioritise well-being, cultural preservation, and environmental conservation over unbridled economic growth. By Western metrics, they might lag behind, but who's to say their approach isn't more "developed" in terms of holistic human flourishing?
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Money is the lifeblood of American politics, seeping into every corner of the system and corrupting it from within. It’s not democracy, it’s oligarchy with the lipstick of the democratic process. - The ballot box is a suggestion box. Voting has become a hollow ritual, a pressure release valve for public discontent rather than a genuine mechanism for change. We're given the illusion of choice, but the menu is curated by two parties not allowing for anything else. - As voting rights expanded, the relevance of those votes contracted. Allow the public to cathartically shout into a sound proof room, but let them know their grievances are heard. We've won the right to participate in a system that's been quietly hollowed out from the inside. Voting became democratised, but the power behind that vote has been diluted to homeopathic levels. - The Supreme Court ruled corporations with personhood status alchemizing them into people and money into speech. Money literally talks, but what language? Money became words. Words became votes. Votes became commodified. It's a legal fiction that's metastasized into a political cancer. By equating money with speech, they've essentially given megaphones to the wealthy while the rest of us are left shouting into the void. It's turned democracy into an auction house where policies go to the highest bidder. This unholy trinity - the neutered ballot box, the diluted vote, and the corporate citizen - forms the backbone of our modern oligarchy. It's a system where the appearance of democracy is maintained while its substance is stripped away, leaving us with a plutocratic skeleton wearing the tattered skin of a republic.
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Tel Aviv's first deadly Houthi drone attack is pivotal as Israeli casualties in central Israel are unprecedented. Why does Israel escalate when counterstrikes are certain? It's not pragmatism, it's pathology. Some states build their identity on perceived supremacy. When faced with a counterforce that challenges that supremacy they don't seek peace - they instead try to prove their dominance and supremacy as it's existential to their core identity. New technologies, guerrilla tactics and geographical advantages have levelled the playing field. Smaller actors like the Houthis can now challenge vastly superior economic and military powers. Yemen's resilience against US/Western intervention proves this. It’s like Dune - desert nomads challenging the mighty houses. Israel's stuck in a loop of its own creation. Militarily superior, but tactically out smarted - yet their ideology won’t allow them to admit it. They'll keep escalating, chasing an impossible dream of total supremacy. This isn't unique to Israel. The US shows similar behavior against Russia, Iran, and China. The West is caught in this spiral. There's no brake on this psychosis except the weight of reality checking in to say “you aren’t as superior as you thought you were, and this doesn’t give the right to dominate over a people”. If the West / Israel keeping acting out reflexively as if they are the powers they think they are, the way they used to be - they will drive themselves towards isolation, irrelevance or destruction, all to affirm a deranged fantasy of eternal dominance.
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I can’t embed links but will share some info and the source below. Bear in mind, NATO is an alliance who’s purpose is purported to be “defensive” of North American / European countries, yet their actions and rhetoric show otherwise: "Our best leverage to deter China is to collapse their economy" -Former US Ambassador to NATO in the 1st Trump Presidency, Kay Bailey Hutchison Link: https://x.com/rnaudbertrand/status/1813256291751440518?s=46&t=DuLUbFRQFGpB8oo7PwRglQ Orban: “China has a peace plan. America has a war policy. Europe is simply copying the American position.” One of NATO’s own has broken away and exposed the truth: the US and Europe are warmongers in Ukraine. Link: https://x.com/spiritofho/status/1811446524208914880?s=46&t=DuLUbFRQFGpB8oo7PwRglQ US ambassador, Eric Garcetti, is literally saying they (India) remain autonomous: "I know that India likes its strategic autonomy but in times of conflict there is no such thing as strategic autonomy". He goes on: "We will need to know that we are trusted friends, brothers and sisters, colleagues that in times of need - on the next day - will be acting together. They will know each others' equipment, they will know each others' training, they will know each others' systems." He also heavily implies he expects India to fight with the US in the East China Sea and Taiwan, saying that during joint US-India military exercises they "focused on humanitarian emergency but the lessons learned go beyond humanitarian emergencies to those moments we all pray will never happen whether they're on your northern border, whether they're in the East China Sea, whether they're in the strait of Taiwan." The US used to tell all those things to China just a few decades ago, when they needed it to counter the Soviet Union... And now that China has grown they want to use India to counter it, and will undoubtedly try to contain India if and when it also becomes too big... https://x.com/rnaudbertrand/status/1811809999947272653?s=46&t=DuLUbFRQFGpB8oo7PwRglQ Insane: Japanese media are now saying that Japan is a "tacit" NATO member. asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/Japan-… NATO keeps saying it's a "purely defensive" organization but if that's the case why expand to an entirely different continent? Expansionism is by nature aggressive and destabilizing. It's essentially mob boss behavior: you're going to get very nervous if a mob boss from another city starts "protecting" businesses in your area, especially if you know that their "protection" in their original city led to a deadly street war and the city's impoverishment... https://x.com/rnaudbertrand/status/1810698715440787825?s=46&t=DuLUbFRQFGpB8oo7PwRglQ Meanwhile, the new NATO Summit Declaration accuses China of being a "decisive enabler" of Russia's war effort in Ukraine, including by supplying "material support." This is the closest NATO has come to outright threatening China. Don't you feel so much safer now? https://x.com/mtracey/status/1811244114249199968?s=46&t=DuLUbFRQFGpB8oo7PwRglQ Strong response by China to NATO accusing it of being "a decisive enabler of Russia’s war against Ukraine”: "The US should reflect on the root cause of the crisis [...] The US must never expect China to pay for the mistakes they have made." x.com/upholdreality/… Full response: “We firmly oppose the US spreading disinformation about so-called China’s support for Russia’s defense industry, to which there is no supporting evidence. We deplore and reject the wrongful remarks of the US side. Rights after the Ukraine crisis broke out, the US falsely claimed that China was providing military support to Russia. To this day, the US has not offered any substantial evidence. Even US military chiefs admitted that China did not provide military assistance to Russia in the Ukraine crisis. Statistics actually show that over 60% of Russia’s imported military components and dual-use items come from the US and other Western countries. 95% of Russia’s key components destroyed by Ukraine come from the West and 72% of Western parts of Russia-made weapons come from US companies. How does the US explain that? https://x.com/rnaudbertrand/status/1811598260316045786?s=46&t=DuLUbFRQFGpB8oo7PwRglQ
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zazen replied to Merkabah Star's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
True, it isn’t purely economic but taps into a few currents. Politics is downstream from culture, and economics plays a part in shifting culture too. Urbanisation concentrates and creates wealth (with inequalities), which also shifts attitudes with education and cosmopolitanism. A lot of different effects take hold in urban vs rural environments. Exposure to more diversity naturally makes you more open towards it, up to a point. Besides economics, it’s a cultural crusade against a culture (liberal) they view as too different to their own. Liberal attitudes are incubated in urban centres, which they find foreign from where they stand in rural or suburban environments. MAGA is the mutant child of cultural resentment and economic dispossession. They don’t care for capitalism or want to dismantle capitalism, they just want to be on top of it. We could say it’s not just economic dislocation, but the threat of cultural extinction in a globalising world of blurry homogeneity and gentrification. In their minds, the trans movement of blurring man and woman embodies this to which they lash out subconsciously - it’s an attack on identity and belonging. From India to Brazil, America to mainland Europe - people are looking at their societies and feeling like strangers in their own land. I The movement right is a wish to build a cultural bomb shelter from the onslaught of globalisation and to snap back from the excesses of liberal cities which hold disproportionate power and dictate to suburban / urban heartlands. Nothing embodies this excess like the emoji of a pregnant man on what’s app - a messaging app 2 billion people or 20% of the world use, including the more traditionally minded who are pressured to use it due to its wide use. -
zazen replied to Merkabah Star's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Chris hedges: ”My thoughts on the assassination attempt on former President Trump: The assassination of Trump would not remove the yearning of tens of millions of people, many conditioned by the Christian right, for a cult leader. Most of the leaders of the Christian right have built cult followings of their own. These Christian fascists embraced magical thinking, attacked their enemies as agents of Satan and denounced reality-based science and journalism long before Trump did. Cults are a product of social decay and despair, and our decay and despair are expanding, soon to explode in another financial crisis. The efforts by the Democratic Party and much of the press, including CNN and The New York Times, to discredit Trump, as if our problems are embodied in him, are futile. The smug, self-righteousness of this crusade against Trump only contributes to the national reality television show that has replaced journalism and politics. This crusade attempts to reduce a social, economic and political crisis to the personality of Trump. It is accompanied by a refusal to confront and name the corporate forces responsible for our failed democracy. This collusion with the forces of corporate oppression, which have impoverished the working class, fostered endless war, militarized our police, created the largest prison system in the world, licensed corporations to exploit the most vulnerable and transferred wealth upwards into the hands of a billionaire class, neuters the press, Trump's critics and the Democratic Party. Our only hope is to organize the overthrow of the corporate state that vomited up Trump. Our democratic institutions, including the legislative bodies, the courts and the media, are hostage to corporate power. They are no longer democratic. We must, like resistance movements of the past, engage in acts of sustained mass civil disobedience, especially strikes, and non-cooperation. By turning our ire on the corporate state, rather than Trump, we name the true sources of power and abuse. We expose the absurdity of blaming our demise on demonized groups such as undocumented workers, Muslims, African-Americans, Latinos, liberals, feminists, gays and others. We give people an alternative to a bankrupt Democratic Party -- whose presidential candidate is in clear cognitive decline -- that is a full partner in corporate oppression and cannot be rehabilitated. We make possible the restoration of an open society. If we fail to embrace this militancy, which alone has the ability to destroy cult leaders, we will continue the march toward tyranny.” -
Regarding American led order and stability - the stability of American born corporate interests actually depends on instability for stable profits and power monopolisation. The reason I say born is because though corporate elites may be bred on American soil, they have outgrown their own countries and become transnational elites. This means, they couldn't care less if they serve the American people, the incentives are less when you can live in Miami or Dubai, or live in prosperous enclaved communities with security or private jet yourself to islands like New Zealand or the Caymans. Their immune from the side effects of their actions, the same way America is mostly immune from the side effects of their foreign adventurism and interventions due to being geographically blessed. They can go around the world dick swinging and flexing with little cost to themselves as they are protected by vast seas on both sides, an ally to their North and a weak nation to their South. The US is sooooo at threat from Russia and China who are in different continents - that it spends more on its military than the next nine countries combined. Investing this much in an industry demands a return, which peace doesn’t give. This is why Biden even historically said Israel is the best “investment” America could make - because they view things from a materialist, zero-sum, prey vs predatory perspective. The US has over reached and abused their power through a weaponised financial system which sanctions and economically carpet bombs countries that don't ''align'' with them to the point that the non Western world have had enough and are building a parallel system where no one has power over you, but where you have power with others. They trade with each other in their own currencies for example. The US isn't collapsing as a state or society, but as a hegemon - and to this they are lashing out. Both stages can produce individuals who commit unethical acts, but for different reasons. Stage Blue, because their morality is exclusionary. Stage Orange, because of disconnection to the soul (depth) in pursuit of the material (surface). What we call stage orange also has elements of stage blue married to it to make a dangerous combination ie Neocons or Ultra-Zionists = ancient texts married to modern tech with enough leverage to destroy at scale. Stage blue has a sense of morality that can balance and check power, but only within its own rigid framework that excludes those who aren’t in it and are deemed sinful or 'other'. Stage orange can lack morality in pursuit of the material or be morally relativistic to justify the unjustifiable. Its disconnect from the soul manifests in its shadow when the powerful tools it excels at developing (through science, rationality) are used to interfere and intervene in world affairs in unethical ways, rather than interact and integrate with others on the world stage. Stage blue is spiritually bloated (confined to cast creed or colour) while stage Orange is a spiritual vacuum - both can be dangerous to the world.
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zazen replied to Danioover9000's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Peterson is having a public image meltdown on twitter. Nick fuentes and Candace Owens having it off with Jordan and Mikhaila - who called for censorship against anti-semitism (but then what is anti-semitism?). Suddenly these free speech crusaders bend to Israel which is what their own followers point out to when they ask - why not put America first, why Israel? What Peterson and Tommy have in common is their Zionists with Zio money backing who can't handle criticism of the Israeli state and lack the the 'intellect' to discern between Jewish people and a states unjust actions. Just look at the comments: https://x.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1811564584651641333 https://x.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1811432275516735745 Peterson is crumbling his reputation for Israel just like how US is on the global stage. -
zazen replied to Danioover9000's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Spot on with everything else you also wrote. The thing is the concerns are valid and there are issues with extremist Islamic ideology which is why his message resonates - but then it's expressed in such inflammatory, reductive and divisive ways that conflates a whole lot with a whole lot of people. A lot of societies ills are then pinned on certain groups when theres so much more to it. For example, stage orange industrialisation and 'progress' causes the side effects of rapid urbanisation, which brings about atomisation, income inequalities, liberal attitudes towards dating, education and careerism pushing family formation till much later and declining birth rates. A lower birth rate resulting in labor shortage and a lower tax base off of which pensioners and the elderly are going to live off incentives immigration just by the economics alone. They're throwing bodies at the problem which are like economic tokens of promised growth and funding of liabilities the same way Russia throws bodies at Ukraine. Not mentioning the dark money behind migrant crossings as a business, theres also the prison-labor-industrial complex. If the state can subsidise the living of migrants (housing and food), they're legally allowed to pay prisoners slave wages. Mass immigration and public/private partnership prisons re-inforce each other by enriching oligarchic private interest at the expense of the public. So their are elites who also exacerbate and benefit off this, which the publics anger then gets targeted towards groups and away from them. Like Tommy also mentioned, the police and enforcement were also in on the gig and didn't want it investigated, hence the double standard policing and him being persecuted more vigorously. Regarding Pakistanis - employers invited Pakistanis to fill labour shortages which arose in Britain after the Second World War. From Mirpur in particular, which is very poor with little development. They make up most of the UK Pakistani's which isn't representative of most Pakistani's. For example, US Pakistanis overall are much more educated and wealthier earning more on par with or above the average income. If you bring in cheap labor from less developed places who become ghettoized and remain impoverished, of course crime is going to increase. When people are marginalised, they radicalise and tribalise to survive. It's interesting how the side effects of stage orange caused stage blue population enclaves to proliferate. Spiral dynamics keeps spiralling. That said, Tommy has has bad experiences with not the best of them, which explains his anger and warped perception. Reform and Nigel Farage don't seem as racist in any way, and a lot of what they say can make sense and is different to the status quo - in fact Zia Yusuf, a British Pakistani entrepreneur heavily funded their campaign and is now Reform Chairman to replaced Tice. His interview on GB news is interesting also. It just so happens that these parties which speak to the people, tend to also get racist and bigoted people latching on for the ride, which the party then gets associated with. -
Critics say that the Democrats weaponised the justice department to launch a legal blitz on Trump. Multiple investigations, indictments, raids - usually and conveniently done with election cycles which point to political motivation. They also point out that the same vigour isn’t give to investigating Biden family dealings or Hillary's emails. The Dems are accused of turning the DOJ into their own personal attack dog and colluding with big tech to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story during elections. Using state power to kneecap political opponents isn’t the hallmark of a healthy republic.
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Probs just Hamas. Look who suddenly remembered that bombing hospitals is a bad thing. This is how propaganda works, its not loud and in your face but discreet and full of omission thats drip fed to warp the narrative subconsciously. They often conveniently leave out Israel's name. It’s kinda rude to not address a person or entity by its name - to address is to acknowledge the existence of. Are the West still anti-semitic for not mentioning or acknowledging Is-real? Are they controlled by Hamas? 'Explosions occurred. Buildings were damaged. Hospitals mysteriously crumbled into dust.' Who did it? The wind? Meanwhile, Western mouthpieces are tripping over themselves to condemn the attack on a Kyiv children's hospital. Biden tweets about Russian brutality, and Keir Starmer is all on about the most depraved of actions. The rest did similar. As if we didn't we just spend months watching Israel turn Gaza's hospitals into craters? Where was all this righteous outrage then. When Israel was playing whack a mole with Palestinian medical facilities, these same bootlickers were bending over backwards to justify it. "But Hamas!" The cognitive dissonance is enough to give you a whiplash - and that’s what Westerners themselves feel within their own societies. Bombing hospitals is only bad when the "wrong" people do it. When it's Israel, it's a tragic necessity. When it's Russia, it's a war crime that demands immediate condemnation. Also, check US spokesperson Mat Miller being called out for smirking when being questioned about the possible death toll being 186’000, as the Lancet Journal revealed - https://x.com/samhusseini/status/1810836610092544007?s=46&t=DuLUbFRQFGpB8oo7PwRglQ
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https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240708-gaza-death-toll-could-be-over-186000-report/amp/ “Armed conflicts have indirect health implications beyond the direct harm from violence. Even if the conflict ends immediately, there will continue to be many indirect deaths in the coming months and years from causes such as reproductive, communicable, and non-communicable diseases. The total death toll is expected to be large given the intensity of this conflict; destroyed health-care infrastructure; severe shortages of food, water, and shelter; the population's inability to flee to safe places; and the loss of funding to UNRWA, one of the very few humanitarian organisations still active in the Gaza Strip. In recent conflicts, such indirect deaths range from three to 15 times the number of direct deaths. Applying a conservative estimate of four indirect deaths per one direct death to the 37 396 deaths reported, it is not implausible to estimate that up to 186’ 000 or even more deaths could be attributable to the current conflict in Gaza. Using the 2022 Gaza Strip population estimate of 2 375 259, this would translate to 7·9% of the total population in the Gaza Strip.” From one of the top global medical journals: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fulltext
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In their delusion, they think this energises their movement, when in fact it provides political fodder to discredit their movement. Trump who is more cunning must be thinking ffs and releasing all his anger at the driving range at them jeaporidsing his ascendence.
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zazen replied to thenondualtankie's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
With voter turnout of 57% and Labour securing only 35% of that vote, we're looking at a mere fifth of eligible voters actually backing Labour. Yet this meager 20% support translates into a vast 160-seat majority? This is hailed as representative democracy. After 14 years the Tories are spent offering nothing but stale crumbs of failed policies and promises. Labour's victory echoes Blair's 1997 landslide. Don't be fooled by the changing of the guard. The ruling class understand the game well. They know the importance of these political intermissions to appease public discontent - periods that allow for the illusion of change while ensuring the status quo remains unthreatened. Public pressure needs to be alleviated like a release valve. Just look at Starmers campaign to destroy Jeremy Corbyn. We're talking about a man who's been the beating heart of Labour for half a century. Corbyn's record is a list of fights for justice: battling fascism, opposing apartheid, championing nuclear disarmament, and standing up for the oppressed from Ireland to Palestine. He stood against the Iraq War when it was deeply unpopular, earning himself international peace awards. Yet, Starmer attempts to obliterate Corbyn's political legacy. This isn't just internal party politics; it's a ruthless purge of anyone who dares to challenge the blood-soaked status quo. This is the same Starmer who, as Director of Public Prosecutions, helped persecute Julian Assange - another thorn in the side of the establishment. Starmer also denies that he said Israel had a right to block water and food from Gaza, which is caught on video. Starmer is just a opportunist chameleon ever shifting to gain and maintain power and profit for himself and the establishment. There isn't even a Keir Starmer or a Rishi or whoever else, they are only placeholders for oligarchy and interests, avatars with different colours and labels. -
I get where you’re coming from. America definitely has the strongest fundamentals and is geographically blessed. The main thing that could mess things up leading to decline (not doom) is the human factor ie people themselves. Much like Argentina being geographically blessed yet unable to capitalise on the cards it has. A lot of what gets called maintaining global stability is actually global domination, with a body count to prove it. Any country leading the world may abuse that position of power as power corrupts way too easily. Which is why it’s best the world shifts towards cooperation rather than domination - so that power is shared and distributed. Maybe the idea of needing a world leader is actually part of the problem and not the solution. From a historical perspective Empires naturally rise and fall, and Western hegemony is an aberration of only 500 years compared to India / Chinas 2000 years. When other countries naturally rise and their time comes to challenge the current order, this creates friction where the hegemon tries to maintain its position. These transitions have mostly resulted in war, but in today’s world our weapons are too apocalyptic to go at it with each other directly which is why it’s a necessity to have multipolarity. The West loves to preach from its high horse, all while that horse is trampling over the very values it claims to uphold. The rest of the world would actually love it if the West actually embodied those values at a state and foreign policy level. But their usually on the receiving end of the bad and not the good. If Western values include things like free speech, critical thinking, and the constant pursuit of betterment then that's exactly what we're doing when we point out the West's laundry list of failures and hypocrisies. Calling out injustice is embodying those values. As long as it’s not done in a self loathing way with a white man bad rhetoric that can be seen poisoning the left. It’s not about tearing down the West but holding it accountable to its own stated ideals. Speaking of global order in relation to Ukraine. This is US / Western led order on display: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/07/02/ukraine-to-be-told-it-is-too-corrupt-to-join-nato/ Remember Henry Kissingers quote "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." If Ukraine isn't living proof of that cynical wisdom I don’t know what is. The U.S. doesn't have allies; it has disposable assets. Countries to be used, abused, and discarded when they're no longer convenient. Ukraine made the fatal mistake of believing the promises, of thinking they were special. Now they're learning the hard way that in the game of empire, there are no real friends, only temporary conveniences. This is the dark heart of American foreign policy that the mainstream media won't touch. This is why the UK having over 10’000 US troops stationed on its land never gets mentioned. These troops aren’t here to dance or for some temporary training - they’ll literally stationed. The West dangled the carrot of NATO membership and now that the game's gone sideways, they're backpedaling. "Ukraine's too corrupt," they say, conveniently forgetting how they've turned a blind eye to corruption when it suited their interests. It's the geopolitical equivalent of "It's not you, it's me" like some breakup line. They can't even admit they were wrong. Instead of owning up to the catastrophic miscalculation of antagonizing a nuclear power, they're deflecting to Ukraine corruption as a reason for not joining the NATO gang. NATO have deformed into a pack of neighbourhood watchdogs armed to the teeth who whimper when they finally encounter a pitbull with nukes up its ass. It's a masterclass in gaslighting, with Ukraine and many around the world left with the consequences and aftermath of their adventures.
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Both sides are selling a simple solution to a complex world. The far right says to go back whilst the far left says to push forward, the right are nostalgic, the left utopian. The extremes from each side feed each other like a snake eating itself. Each overreach by one side justifies the other's existence. The more the left pushes, the more the right can claim they're under attack. The more the right resists, the more the left can paint them as backwards dinosaurs. Take Biden's tone-deaf declaration of Trans Visibility Day on Easter Sunday - a move that might play well in coastal echo chambers but lands like a slap in the face to Middle America's deeply held beliefs. Every rainbow flag raised in a gentrified neighborhood is seen as another middle finger to rural / suburbanite Americans. Each symbolic woke gesture is a Hawk Tuah on tradition, a woke spit on that thang. The establishment Democrats widen this chasm by catering to far leftists, but end up playing into the reactionary hands of the religious right, who position themselves as the last defenders of traditional values. No surprise ''Christ is King'' was trending online and the introduction of Nick fuentes on twitter having people among the right anticipate his ratio's of Jordan Peterson and many figure heads for not being America first, but Israel first.