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Western values have a right to defend themself. The US started on genocide and it’s primacy is ending in one too - along with the West place on the world stage.

“Two staff members from the Israeli embassy were shot dead outside a Jewish museum in Washington DC “ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9vgrkdje1ro.amp Some are saying it’s a false flag to garner support for war against Iran or to take attention off of what Israel is doing as the world rushes to condemn and take action against them. Regardless, its quite a tense moment right now.. Apparently if no deal goes through with US Iran, then Israel vows to attack nuclear sites. That would inevitably start a hot war and draw the US in - which is the psychotic line of logic Bibi / Israel is running on. What Israel is calling for crosses Irans red line, what Iran deems is their right as a sovereign crosses Israel’s.. Brother Bolsen just uploaded on this shooting: Give it a listen. One of his shorter videos of 7 min for those with short attention spans lol

Seems like more than just 10% are radical, unless withholding aid isn’t considered radical to Zionists.

What you wrote “bill comes due” reminded me of a vide going into the backdrop to all this: As far as the solution goes, here’s vid on strategic self sufficiency which is the name of the game going forward. Although it’s directed at global south countries the concepts can be applied within the West. A way to think about it is that capital and vulture funds were born in the West but have outgrown it to become transnational. They dictate to the nest they outgrew from, and view it as a hunting ground rather than a home. Capital is untethered from principle and long time horizons - which is why things are done which aren’t in the nations interest. So Westerners themselves have to wrestle with this Frankenstein the same way foreign nations do. Some solutions revolving around localism with a Islamic bent, though insightful:

What a journalist:

It’s a shame that Hindutva India chooses to emulate the most psychotic country in the world - Israel. Denial of investigation, collective punishment, vile comments, viewing Muslims as invaders to their land, terrorist rhetoric projected to an entire group, media echo chambering and troll armies online. Many Israeli twitter accounts spewing Zionist talking points have been busted for being Indian lol They also have a hubris stemming from some sort of complex - and can’t assess what’s rationally in their own countries interest. Not being in good relations with al your neighbours and focusing too much on pleasing the US is dumb. It’s misaligned to geographic reality. This is a large account with a comment mocking collective punishment: Similar levels of psychopathy as Zionists. @Ajay This guy has some of the best analysis on geopolitics especially in the military domain: The threshold for war has been lowered to a dangerous level ie every time a terrorist attack happens India can just strike Pakistan. But a terrorist attack can happen independently of the Pakistani state / even if it could have origins or operated from there by non-state actors, that can’t justify two nations at a state level coming head to head. Tick tock ..

Could just be words to insulate them from the fallout:

Think Nivsch means the documentaries focus on the radical 5% of the population but that 10% do think Israel should settle Gaza which represents the extreme interpretation of Zionism. Hard to pinpoint what percentage of Israel is radical and what constitutes radical. Going by some polls it seems there is a sizeable problem. Even it were a minority, the issue is they control the state apparatus committing the wrongs.

Blinded by tribal politics and belonging to team blue Democrats, causes one to mistake their blinkers for glasses of clarity and vision. No excuse for Biden spewing those words in the past as he re-iterated them during Israel’s present day atrocities. Israel-Gaza is THE barometer to gauge someone by today, the bare minimum by which he failed. Decent man though lol Can’t claim to be a Democracy, support a party literally called Democrats, and yet absolve ourselves of the actions taken by those WE democratically elected into power. The dude pardoned Liz Cheney and didn’t pick up the phone once to even “attempt” a diplomatic resolution in the Ukraine-Russia war killing 100s of thousands - one of the bloodiest wars in modern history.

Who gives a fuck about Eurovision when Israel’s firstly not even in the EU or Europe, and is committing a genocide which now main stream Western outlets are on the edge of calling it out on - because they don’t want to be the last ones standing who didn’t. Operation Gideon Chariot is under way as what seems to be the final solution. Not even a peep on the forum but talks of veganism and Eurovision. The level of tone deafness is honestly insane. F**ck Israel, the US and the West (not in their entirety). Even the Israel / Palestine thread is quiet these days because people are morally / emotionally exhausted and not shocked from what’s occurring. It or they just can’t figure out how to accommodate what their “civilization” is doing within spiral a dynamics framework. “Development”

@Nivsch Yes and segments of the West, in particular the US and UK.

The same delusion rhetoric after attacking a hospital, another today. Everything is simply “Hamas fault”. The world shouldn’t buy the narrative of simply scapegoating “Bibi”. All the IDF soldiers we have seen making a mockery of their war crimes, all the spokespeople doing mental gymnastics to justify this genocidal level of behaviour etc. F**ck Israel (not all the people of course)