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This Spiral dynamics / developmental models can be too reductive or used simplistically Development can be domain specific and also doesn’t erase or delete human nature Israel can have F35s, pride parades and ethnically cleanse at the same time - common denominator being: human “Stage green” Fernando can go into red rage over who ate the last lentil in the commune too lol Developed industrial capacity only enables more brutality once tribalism/survival/ego kicks in as it usually/eventually does in the world unless we all bhudda max

@Elliott Yeah looks like US is out of options.. Crusader Hegseth flopped achieving things militarily so Sotty B took over to try economic capitulation - China said get lost and Russia says Nyet lol think that’s what the Ratcliff visit was apparently about according to news Interesting to se where things go from here, or what US can pull off Even if they have a break to regroup as u mentioned interceptors etc take years to procure so it’s not going to change anything to wait after mid terms and repeat the same thing

Yea that would be their best bet but I wonder if after mid terms that changes Trumps calculus ie go kinetic again Also Iran can overplay their hand as China who’s their biggest support depends on energy from the gulf so if Iran-US blocks it for too long all sides get pressured to end it Iran was allowing Chinese tankers to pass but I’m not sure atm what’s going on.. that could be their way of applying pressure on US without upsetting their main ally

You guys see those terms Trump demanded? Total loss of sovereignty The larger game US is playing is trying to lock down countries into the US orbit and prevent any strengthening of a rival system ie China/BRICS that challenges US primacy Remember Carney talking about Middle powers coming together to not be bullied by larger hegemons on either side.. US is pre-emptively forcing the question of picking a side now whilst it has the most leverage If it were to give Canada time it would slowly build other trade relations weaning itself off US weakening their hand - but all that takes time. Avengers Mid Tier can’t get built in a day.. US for the past decades could allow Wall Street (finance) to monetise global industry and let its rust belt rust (industry) because it still largely fed a US imperial system - but now a alternative system is being built/led by China So now US has to care about industrial strength (scissors) and secure resources (rocks) to back its financial power (paper) Ultimately finance is a claim on something, financialisation is simply claims built on claims in a fugazi jenga tower but it still sits on a floor of real value that is its collateral That collateral and material foundation now needs re-enforcing hence even Jamie Dimon with his paper empire (finance) now even saying US needs a “arsenal of democracy” and that “global reserve currency is at threat if economic and military strength isn’t fortified” Hence all these tarrifs, coercive behaviour etc is an attempt to sharpen rusted scissors (industry) , secure more rocks (resources), keep paper credible (finance and what it claims) = keep Uncle Sam OS on top against Dragon OS emerging

It’s a siege stand off right now. US is out of “good” military options that wouldn’t cause Iran to escalate on Gulf partners in the region leading to utter chaos. Hence the pivot to economic blockade. Market price of oil has been suppressed by headline/optics (deal coming soon lol), reserves being released, China buying a lot less etc but see the price at the pump (diesel) hence crack spreads are high - pain is showing up in other places in the system. Empires being networked and systemic means things can cascade and have effects downstream. We’re seeing fiscal intervention (affecting bonds), yen intervention to uphold the system etc US may get smaller nations to buckle on secondary sanctions choking off Iran but if Russia/China don’t then Iran still has time / breathing room Saying that agree w @Raze Hormuz is their main card and if US is sneaking out enough tankers it’s diluting their power and giving US confidence they can ride this out longer

I’m just commenting that there is a good side and it’s not all backward and bad - that good side is what appeals to many including ThoughtArt. The nuance is Muhammad wasn’t a caricature on either side - def not Ghandi on a camel nor Ghengis Khan with no limit on the worst instincts. Religion / institutions or “constructs” don’t uninstall humanity or its messiness but that doesn’t make the construct itself useless or to be abandoned - the level of conciousness interacting with the construct changes its outcomes. You can have religion approached from above (developed mind) or liberal secularism approached from below (less developed mind) and have vastly different outcomes. We can still have a dogmatic tribal minded person use the liberal lens for harm. The ideological shells change and the human remains flaws n all - Jesus taught turn the other cheek / love and Christians turned entire continents over, same with Communism and liberalism - but doesn’t mean they don’t each have valid and beautiful truths to them which is why people are drawn to them. The kernels of truth gets a lot of false truths added to it, as happens when things are institutionalised over time - the truth is weaponised for harm instead of good. Maybe it’s a category error to compare actualised with religion - actualised isn’t trying to be a OS for a society to run civilization. If it did it would run in to many of the same issues institutions run into. Even a hippie commune can eventually have two guys fighting over who ate the last lentil 😂 or who touched who the wrong way (Oshos commune lol) - because humans are bound to form and it’s survival/shadow bs that comes with it. We got laws against murder and speeding n they still happen - that doesn’t invalidate the ideals / rules / constructs in place trying to regulate them.

Great book man - love how it ties in to wisdom from other traditions too. I think a helpful way of squaring non-duality / spiral dynamics etc with religion is the above shared comments. Islam in particular integrates the horizontal (dunya, worldly affairs) with the vertical (God, whats beyond). Its not just “pure religion” in the sense of only being about awakening to the truth. Prophet Muhammad was deeply involved in worldly affairs - bro came down from the cave and had shit to do 😂 Islam also doesn’t have the notion of original sin (from Christianity) which tilts the psyche towards feeling guilty of human desires etc or that human nature is somehow “wrong”. The orientation is different and because it doesn’t shy away from this world for the “other world”, or our nature - it essentially developed into a religion that seemed to have concluded “we’re bound by form even if seeking the formless, so might aswell regulate human activities in the world of form and systemise it the best we can, including domains of warfare, marriage, economics etc” The world isn’t all there is but we can’t escape it, human nature isn’t evil but it’s also not the ultimate either. Glimpse the formless, don’t forget the formless (pray) but homie we still gotta deal with forms lol

It does oddly enough, UK @Nivsch nice , yeah I agree it’s a tricky road to any settlement as many logistical hurdles to get over - even if a coalition is pro 2 state for example. Intention vs implementation

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How’s it going man? What do you think of the new candidates / coalition and how they’ll approach the Palestine question?

Morroco used Cueta to threaten Spain warming up to Algeria. Morroco / Algeria have tensions over West Sahara so Morocco fears Spain becoming sympathetic to Sahrawis people’s claim to the land who are native to it. Algeria backs Polisario front who are a national liberation group from the Sahrawhi people. Morocco claims the land as theirs (massive Phosphorus resources €€ there) Sanchez visited Algeria just before this happened: https://www.france24.com/en/africa/20260720-spain-pm-sanchez-visits-algeria-first-time-four-years-ties-thaw Morocco did the same in 2021 before Israel/US gave it a reason (orders) to do so due to their displeasure with Spain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Morocco–Spain_border_incident “It originated due to a deterioration in diplomatic relations between the governments of Morocco and Spain, after the latter admitted the transfer of the president of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, Brahim Ghali, to a Spanish hospital in La Rioja, in April 2021.” Anything that legitimates the native struggle over Western Sahara is seen as a threat by Morocco.

A country with little leverage doesn’t issue demands and conditions lol Iran can be weakened massively (conventional army+proxies+proxies degraded) while still having enough asymmetric leverage to deny capitulation (from Hormuz disruption, missiles, nuclear question unsettled) US tried changing facts on the ground during the MOU phase by creating a bypass route near Oman - and Iran whacked them to re-assert control US is failing to wrestle Hormuz out of Irans grip hence tried to dilute its leverage which flopped Irans pain threshold and resilience is high, so how long can oil market prices be manipulated / buffered as reserves drain and pump prices increase US has to intervene in propping up Japans currency which would have a cascading affect on the financial system (Japan carry trade). Pain is starting to show up in the system.

So basically all Iran had to give up on is don’t go for nukes - which they already weren’t going for - and that their supreme leader had a fatwa against, who they assassinated vs everything else Iran got in return. It’s to be seen whether US can discipline Israel or not and put the “Zionists control US” assumption to rest. Iran is making the deal conditional on a ceasefire across all fronts including Lebanon. Iran is disciplining the US via Hormuz, to discipline Israel - what this admin have referred to as their “junior partner” - but Israel atm is a rabid dog only caring for its own maximalist demands at the expense of the goyim. ** @Elliott Goyim lives matter. Goyim avengers assemble.

Not a discussion within Israel but about Israel in relation to the deal: Israel’s hubris is going to bring about one self own after another if it doesn’t stop overplaying its hand. Goyims gonna start uniting and perhaps acting on their rhetoric / criticism which they have so long not acted on. EU-Israel are diplomatically beefing now —— The deal is a fragile one and just a MOU as of now - but Iran-US are eager to reach a settlement whilst Israel is still hawkish and cares only for itself. US learnt a important lesson that is that Iran can impose costs on them they didn’t expect. Beyond the official memorandum of understanding the macro understanding that has settled into the US establishment is that it can no longer fuck around unilaterally and with impunity - because other middle to great powers exist that will make them find out. Seeing neocon war hawks acknowledge this as a misadventure / quagmire and show relief for a deal (MOU) being reached is baffling and telling. John Bolton everyone. Take out the earwax and listen - and someone e-pinch me thx lv u

Drones have really been a asymmetric game changer Whether that translates to territorial gains which still requires manpower or a political solution / negotiated end by strengthening their hand / pressuring Russia - remains to be seen. How Russia responds to this latest strike also remains to be seen. Seems huge.