Gianna

This is very true. This is why I plan to keep up with studying enlightenment, but maybe not so much in a structured or orderly way. I agree with the others in that trying to stay organized might be counterintuitive. But I do believe I should at least stay conscious of enlightenment in this pursuit and ideas that have been passed on to me. I feel that some people have bits of awakening experiences without truly understanding what it is they are.

@Haumea2018 thank you very much, this is great advice.

Ah! I want that. How!? My meditations don't lead me to mind fuckery.

Ohhh my goodness. Okay. I see where I was thinking wrong now. I was thinking that God was all things simultaneously so there was like reminisce of God in everyone. But what you're saying is that God can't know at all that it is God in order for it to understand what it's like to be one thing. God can't partially be God and partially be some other thing. "God has to actually BECOME those things" fully and entirely for what it is– its form, its limitation– in order to TRULY understand what it's like to be that one thing. God has to surrender its identity entirely (i.e. selfless) to understand what it's like to be something. God can't be anything else while being that one thing because then God wouldn't be that one thing– it would be that one thing plus or minus some other thing that wasn't true to that thing. Wow. I knew God was Selfless but now I understand WHY. Which leads me to understand why God can't be anything. Holy shit. I finally get it. The idea of The Self with a capital S is what was not letting me comprehend the selflessness component. But now I see. Thank you Leo!

How can you feel selfless if you are one? So your answer is that you can't feel selfless if all feelings are one. You can only feel selfless if you make the distinction between self and selfless. Is that right? It's funny because I thought my initial question was before distinction because it was about the nature of God: how can you be no-self (i.e selfless) if you ultimately are The Self, The Ultimate Self, God, The Godhead, Consciousness– isn't this a Self? A Self of all things? While combining all dualities as one, as The Self, God, this is not self-less– this is the Ultimate Self, this is God. Yet, in working reality, because reality is dual this is where selfless comes in. Because God, in reality, never considers itself or acts as a God. It considers itself or acts as all things, which is selfless in reality. A selfless way of being. It just because this episode was about love that made me think of God as a being. One that can feel, one that can love. This ultimate being made me conclude, "well if God is a being, a being of all things, God is The Self" God is the Ultimate Self which is not 'self-less' it is The Ultimate Self! But as you point out, this is prior to any distinctions. After distinctions, you have selfless.

Very interesting! This gives me a new understanding. So, it sounds like we create this thing in the first place in order to feel anything at all. Is this right? Otherwise, why would we create something in order to not feel it? We need to create it to experience it, learn from it, love it, and then let it go.

This explanation makes me think: "Okay. God is selfless because God doesn't consider itself God. God considers itself all of the things in which it has created; therefore having no self of its own (e.g selfless)." It's hitting me! I wish this "understanding through feeling" thing @allislove brought up lasted forever. Can we get to this point!?

This is great!

Okay, I did not know this rule about SDS. I have literally sat for 45 minutes straight while my leg was asleep and did not move– pretty painful!! LOL!

"Who are you if you cannot think" - @soularlight I love this!!! Thank you for sharing.

@allislove This is exactly what I was wanting to understand. I see God as an infinite mind so when I hear Leo saying God accepts everyone because God is 'selfless' it made me think of selfless in a 'thinking' way like you suggested but I need to understand it from a 'feeling' way. That's so perfect. Thank u!

Okay, this helps a ton!!! thank u!

Yes, I am definitely wrapped up in concept! I also misunderstood the word 'selfless'. ah! thanks for your response!

@SoonHei Okay, this gave me the epiphany I needed! YAY!!! I understood selfless as self-less, but your pizza analogy really put it over the top for me. Thank u!! <3

Thank you all so much for your help and kindness! I am feeling such a warm welcome to the forum. @allislove @traveler @Soonhei @Moksha @Nahm

I just had a second thought. I see God as selfless if you are considering selfless to be self-less (i.e. without a self; lower case self). But is this what Leo was meaning by selflessness in this episode? Without a self? When he talks about how God, or consciousness, is capable of love it makes me think it is also capable of selflessness. But how can you feel selfless if you are one? p.s. I use the word God because that is the word Leo uses in this episode.