Wilhelm44

So you are acknowledging that I successfully addressed at least one of your points of criticism. Bring on the rest. (I assume I was successfull because i heard no counter argument from you. All I heard was annoyance at me addressing one point at a time.)

Of course, this is so serious, that it's too much effort for you just to spell out in a nutshell why you feel this is a cult. I asked unborn tao the same strait forward question and all he could do was to refer me to some teal swan thread. I bet you wont answer me either.

So scary being in this cult bro. Im not sure how I'm going to get out of it.

Oh God, please remind me, what is the actual criticism in a nutshell ?

And that one thing i mentioned triggered you for some reason. If this place is a cult then no place isn't. It's just an online forum for God's sake, you're free. No one said Leo was perfect, but Jesus man, calling this a cult is a bit of a stretch.

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I mean relaxation of the mechanisms that are happening on behalf of the character, like anxiety, worry, control, paranoia, resistance etc. Since I really began to sense that the character is not real, its been feeling like a nice unravelling, like when the wrappings around a mummy just keep on rolling off freely.

It's so silly to yell 'cult' just because the teacher isn't tiptoeing around your realizations. Where are you going to go to any well known teacher like Adyashanti or whoever, and tell them, you are wrong buddy, and then they just go, oh yeah okay i guess you are right. If you're that confident in your pov, then start ur own thing, and see who resonates.

@Olaf There are many examples of teachers through the ages who have realized themselves as God or the Absolute, without going down the road of zen devilry.

Sure, your human can't choose to make the sun not rise tomoro, would be anarchy if everyone could do that. But why is the first thing we associate with God this ultimate authority thing. Seems a very human way of thinking. Can you simply feel God as the aliveness in your veins. But truly, if ultimately you are not God (having a human experience), then what are you ?

Hooray

What riddles does thy speak of ? For sure there can be a tree without an apple lol The apple was never real to begin with.

Don't tell me what to do lol. You're not just the apple. Ultimately you are also the tree, whether you like it or not.

Well, ultimately you are God, what else could you be ? Forget about all these Zen devils, focus on yourSelf.

Yeah, I don't know what it's like these days, but I remember years ago watching a documentary about their prison system, they literally showed two dudes living in an apartment complex lol.

I was joking about nobody wanting us. I'm actually more optimistic about humans than most. Our potential is much more profound than super intelligent AI. I'm willing to bet that most people on this forum, including yourself, actually have some alien DNA. Scoffing at humans is what happens when you immediately dismiss something like remote viewing as wookie. The Monroe institute is pretty well respected in this regard, and probably worth checking out.

Good point, I didn't think of that.

Yeah, and he actually looks happy, which is kind of refreshing in the world of nonduality lol.

On the topic of AI, apparently when remote viewers, at the Monroe institute, viewed our future, none of them saw any robots, which is strange considering all the current plans for millions of these things walking around. So the theory is then, that at some point in the future, when AI robots become advanced enough, they will build there own space ships, leave our asses here, and fly away to colonize other planets. Nobody wants us lol.

I hear you, funny enough I havent listened to that kind of stuff for years, because i did use it as an excuse to do nothing. But by some miracle I listened to one of his videos a couple of weeks ago, and I did have a bit of a boom moment. I was like OMG, this character actually isn't real. And the more I have been feeling into this, the more my whole system is beginning to relax. I guess there's a perfect timing as to when the message actually penetrates. Jim's message very much links up with Leo's message about looking at your hand.

@UnbornTao Could you at least share a link to the specific Teal Swan thread you are talking about, and what does Teal Swan have to do with Leo ? You being way too cryptic. If you were Leo, how would you do things differently anyway ? Insinuating that this is a cult is kinda silly. Probably the majority of people here have never sent him any money. And even less have actually met him. There's a whole free youtube library for people to educate themselves, which includes epistemology. And people get to ask clarifying questions on an online forum. This literally sounds like all precautions were taken not to create a cult, Some people are always going to misuse information. What exactly would you have done differently ?

"What the bleep do we know", you can find the full movie/documentary on youtube. (Mix of quantum physics and spirituality). Inspired a lot of new age content at the time.