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@Breakingthewall I felt to share with you something Mellowmarsh said earlier in the Solipsism thread. It might help to clear up the misunderstanding with regards to ego. "I function as an ego of course I do, but the difference is I know it’s not my ego, I know no one owns or controls my ego, my ego is simply everything functioning as an ego. That’s all."

Thank you for clearing this up.

I don't think Mellowmarsh is going to respond here. She's pointed out to me the futility of debating this stuff. I just want to clear up some misunderstanding here. Jim is not in some peak mystical God realized state, I agree you wouldn't be able to function like that. His sense of a separate self has just 'fallen away' permanently. (Probably not using the correct nondual terminology here.) Thoughts, emotions, actions still happen, there's just zero personal ownership of it all. Spirit or Intelligence doesn't require personal ownership to still do it's thing. Life goes on. But yeah, have a chat with Mellowmarsh, I think you know which part of the forest she likes to hangout. Don't approach it like a debate though, pure curiosity goes a long way. (I don't know if you play sports, but when you play tennis for example, and you go into the "zone", there is no sense of identity or personal ownership, there is just pure flow. Now according to your theory this should be impossible.)

Like infinite subjectivity

Thank you, yeah, there seems to be a 50 50 split in the likes and dislikes.

I think Michael Levin might also be somewhat mystically inclined.

"Yes, that specific order matches the historical ranking of the FIFA World Rankings for men's national teams. The list precisely follows the order of nations—Spain, France, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, and the UK (England)—when these top footballing powerhouses held the number one position sequentially in the past. [1, 2, 3] Would you like me to break down when each of these countries reached the #1 spot or discuss their major tournament histories?" Google says Leo Gura is from America which means that was a super lucky guess

Cool, thanks, will do Who are your favorite modern day mystical scientists ? (He's not so modern anymore, but I still quite like Rupert Shelldrake)

You know it's illegal to make claims about the awakening of others I'm curious, what makes you think so in the case of Niels Bohr ?

Is this what people mean by cessation ?

Is there any scientist out there, that you would recommend, who has recently written a good readable book about the big picture you're describing here (Or perhaps a youtube channel you know of) ?

Yeah, I think there's something divine in our DNA which makes it so that ultimately we still have a higher potential than AI.

So it's not possible for all appearances to disappear one day ?

@Inliytened1 You done for now, Breakingthewall is really good with science.

Thank you for sharing, much appreciated.

Wow, that almost sounds too good to be true If you had to take a guess, what type of time frames are we looking at here ? I've seen a lot of people being very cynical, and now lately I'm beginning to see more optimistic people like yourself. (Thank you, I'll check out your video game thread.)

Wow, thank you. How do you see this playing out ? What will be our role or function on the planet, if AI robots can pretty much do anything ?

Nice, thank you.

Bingo

Nice

Just be open to the possibility that something that you thought was impossible, might actually be possible.

You funny bro, where are you, in Canada ?

I can't yet speak from firsthand experience with regards to the permanence issue. Mellowmarsh can.

I'm going to tap out here for now. @Mellowmarsh Please can you respond here, I feel you'll be able explain in a much clearer way. (Inliytened1 feels it would be impossible to function on a daily basis if the sense of a separate self has 'fallen away' permanently)

@Inliytened1 I won't be able to convince you with regards to Jim's experience. It might be a better idea to speak to Mellowmarsh, her sense of separate self has also 'fallen away' permanently.