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Well that was slightly condescending. Im guessing that lecture on instagram was aimed at normie men ?

I feel there's still value in learning from others from time to time. Just because Bentinho has some devilry in him, does not negate the fact that some wisdom flows through him as well. Same goes for Osho etc. You dont need to be a 'follower' to learn something new.

These days it feels like the only teachers who dont have any scandals are the old dudes like Tolle and Adyashanti. The only reason Leo dont have any scandals is because he's mostly a hermit. Just kidding Leo, we respect you.

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Didn't Leo also make a video about evil as something that doesn't really exist ? I think thats the actual point that DeMartini was making.

I get the impression that the accusers are portraying themselves as being under some sort of spell, where they didn't have any agency. I dont see this going to court.

Why do you view it as rape ?

I hear you, what were your thoughts on my question regarding the rape accusation ?

True, I think what DeMartini is good at is helping people see that on certain micro levels, they themselves have all the character traits of the people they demonize, and they also have all the character traits of the people they admire or put on a pedestal. Kind of like a bridge to what you were saying about us being forced to accept that we literally are everyone.

DeMartini is old school, but he's pretty smart. It's a relevant conversation, because a lot of people are falling into the trap of portraying Epstein etc as something objectively evil out there to be fought against. DeMartini was trying to open Aubrey's mind, but he wouldn't budge.

Im just curious, how come you are not more critical of your country's government ?

Excellent conversation. Aubrey just couldn't get his head around this one.

Brilliant.

@Olaf As far as the rape accusation goes: Apparently at a group session, someone shared a traumatic event where they were raped. Afterwards Bentinho told Jade that he wanted to roleplay a rape. Which of course is creepy as hell. Im trying to figure out how this would work in court tho. If you partcipate in a rape roleplay without protesting or saying no at the time, and then some time afterwards you decide that you really werent okay with that, does that count as rape ? (Bentinho definitely has a lot to answer too, but I think some of these accusers also need to take responsibility for the fact that they were so eager to be in the limelight with the guru, that they were willing to stop thinking for themselves.) They seem to be portraying themselves now as having been really vulnerable at the time. But they weren't newbies, some of these people in his inner circle were already hosting their own retreats before they met him.

This latest video even has rape allegations. Apparently Bentinho hiding in the Himalayas. It's hard to know what's the real truth here. Can't quite put my finger on it, but something about some of these accusers feels a little off as well.

I'm curious, what were your thoughts after watching this ? @Flowerfaeiry

It sounds like one of the reasons they turned away from plant medicine, was because of dodgy shamans. I hope they dont meet any dodgy Christians. ps sounds very much like Doreen Virtue after finding Jesus, ie literally everything other than Jesus is part of the fallen matrix.

Doreen Virtue has also been instrumental in turning a lot of New Agers towards Christianity.

Thats the guy who thinks his ancestors were monkeys.

Yeah, and people tend to come out of prison more damaged than when the went in. Prison removes the immediate danger for society, but doesn't solve the problem in the long run. If the world developed empathy for criminals in general, we would have proper rehab and lasting solutions. A culture that just wants to punish ends up shooting itself in the foot.

Nice.

One thing you can say for Brand is that he beat heroin, so in court the emphasis will be on how much he has changed, for less harsh sentencing. Not being able to locate that bible verse didn't help tho.

Go watch the talk show he had in his 20's, he was proper anarchist.

I hear you, it might be hard to definitively prove that he went MAGA/Christian just because of the court case tho. He was always buddy buddy with people like Joe Rogan etc.

I went to have a look at his channel. He recently did a piece where he dissed Mamdani, but Mamdani literally represents what he stood for at one point, before all this Trump madness happened. Funny enough, when you look at his comment section, the people who actually still support him are the church people.