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Graveyard talks, will definitely check it out, thanks🙂

He's a bit different from Jim. Emerson doesnt make any claims as such.

I watched an interview they did with that AI actress. Interviewer asked, so what's it like to know that you are not real ? And then i thought to myself, we not that different, we are like walking talking language models. Emerson has a nice way of getting people to pop out of the mind, ie whats always already the case. He just helps them to lift the veil of language.

@Mellowmarsh Not yet, thank you, I'll check her out, always nice to discover different flavors of this message.

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Interesting, i must say i havent listened to Ken that much yet.

Just watch minute 6 to 11, not the the intro

Love that😄

I was googling it 😄

I think thats the poetry guy 🙂 Im talking about Emerson nonduality channel on youtube. See the video in the OP (watch from minute 6 to around minute 11 to get an idea of how he works with people. Loads of one on one sessions on his channel. It's like radical nonduality 'coaching', for lack of a better word.)

I like that, thank you🙂 Emerson also points out: just dont land anywhere, ie no conclusions, endless wonder.

You're brilliant 🙂 (sorry the video is not showing on my side, what's the title ?)

Not sure what you mean ? I think Emerson is just pointing to the fact that words were created by the human mind. ie the building blocks of thoughts are already just little stories we invented.

How does that change the fact that all words have been made up ? ie artifical meaning

Are words not random sounds invented and given meaning by someone you never met ? The meaning of words are not baked into reality. So is there any real connection between language/thoughts and what seems to be happening. Or are we just telling each other stories. Maybe there is no nonfiction section in the bookshop.

I love how you express things with such clarity, thank you (I find it interesting that most of the radical nondual speakers don't even want to use the word Consciousness. Like Jim will say consciousness is part of the illusion of the sense of a separate me. He describes his experience of life now as: thoughts and feelings arise, but there is no knower of it. Seeing and hearing happens, but there is no knower of it. Even Emerson doesn't want to make a claim either way. One of his questions is: what are you without the awareness of awareness?) I am curious, how do you view this ?

Yes, everything is story. Ahoy San Fran

Yes, that's exactly what Emerson is doing, helping people to tap into what's already and always the case. In my opinion normie probably refers to someone religious or purely scientific. You know the people who think we are nuts. I have heard other nondual speakers (who also use Emerson's approach) say, that more and more people are somehow coming for one on one's, who have no background in spirituality as such. ie the line of questioning is effective in getting most people to see through the illusionary nature of mind, and thus the sense of a separate me. But you right, the lines are blurring with the normie definition, because for example so many people are trying psychedelics these days etc. The one question of Emerson in particular that I like are the Inbetween questions: What's between doing and not doing, what's between acceptance and rejection, what's between empty and not empty, what's between mind and no mind etc. (He has loads of one on one sessions on his channel, pretty cool to watch minds popping.)

@Carl-Richard lets say a normie was curious about this nonduality stuff, which inquiry questions would you use to let them see through the illusion of the sense of a separate me ?

Not so sure about that, who else have you seen working in this specific way with people ? The way that he is sharing this (lifting the veil of language) is actually allowing normies to 'get it' as well. Thats quite revolutionary me thinks. Did you watch the full 5min clip ?

Watch minute 6 to around minute 11, of the video in the OP. That was the main intention with this thread. Emerson has somehow found a way to make this stuff accessible for normies as well.

All words were made up by someone we never met concepts already empty.

Beautiful

Right now, all spirituality concepts just feel like stories.