Wilhelm44

Reminds me of Jim Newman's claim that there's actually no consciousness as such. As opposed to most other teachings that say that it's all just consciousness. What they call Consciousness, he just calls indescribable mystery.

It's fascinating watching people running up against a type of brick wall during the interviews.

Yeah, he's pretty down to earth. It's a radical message nonetheless.

He would say, "Yeah, you wouldn't" I'm curious, what part do you disagree with the most ?

So jealous. I have seen orbs on photos of spiritual gatherings quite a number of times. You super blessed 🙂

Im curious, how would you describe the energy of these orbs, how do you feel when they are around, is it like a palpeable energy, like metaphysical love etc ?

By some kind of miracle we beat South Korea 😃🤩 watch out Canada, South Africa is coming for yous ! (World ranked nr 60 takes out nr 25. More surprises on the way)

Yeah, Im keeping it a secret for now.

I havent seen anything more bizarre than the ufc fights on the white house lawn. Speechless. (A staged fake alien invasion wouldn't even be that weird now lol)

Yeah, the more my own sense of a separate self dissolves, the more this whole concept of "the most conscious being on the planet" doesn't seem to make any sense at all. It's like, what/who would really be left to claim ownership of such a title ? (It would be like Adyashanti telling Sadghuru that, more of the infinite is flowing through me than through you.) On the other hand Leo has realized a lot, so im not sure whats really going on.

Do you sometimes receive more concrete info or downloads, when communicating with the orbs ?

Do you feel the cult accusations should be taken seriously, in the sense that actualized.org might actually go down a dark path eventually ?

Ah okay, sorry, misunderstanding on my part.

Here I emphasize the "religious" aspect of the definition (and depending on how you define religion, many social groups with deviant beliefs would fall under that perhaps in a way that would be less obvious to most people). Nevertheless, it's definitionally safer and more straightforward to say "social group with deviant beliefs compared surrounding society, often religious in nature". Aha, thank you.

I'm a bit confused now. Was the Discord group not a cult ?

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Where did I say I was in a cult ?🙂 Yeah, you right, Im not as heavily invested in this as you are. But I am curious about your official definition of a cult. Is there no one page summary somewhere ?

@Carl-Richard Just to be clear, I still don't think it's a cult. I said I thought zurew made 3 strong points, and I hope Leo will respond. Just as a sidenote, when I asked you on p14 to give your definition of a cult, you also just gave a one liner: "Social group with wacko beliefs compared to the surrounding society, often religious in nature." Do you perhaps have a more complete definition yourself ?

When I first checked I was chuffed, cause I thought amber was like yellow lol. You know I was thinking, if there actually was a full proof system that graded everyone's development here, then to me that would feel more like a cult than anything.