Wilhelm44

I'm pretty sure Jim has realized no self and nothingness as the substance of reality, how come some people here say he is not God realized ?

How can you be absolutely certain that everything disappears while you are sleeping ?

True, would it also be possible to hallucinate that the hallucinated reality still continues in the background while I'm sleeping ?

There's something I'm still trying to integrate for myself. There seems to be a lot of people on the forum who view what, you and Jim and others are saying, as not being the same as proper God realization. Yet it seems that many of these people have not yet had a permanent cessation of the sense of a separate self. My question to them would still be: How exactly is your notion of God different from the indescribable mystery, so called nothingness, that has the infinite ability to appear as anything under the sun and beyond, and which has as its nature, unconditional freedom, unconditional love, unconditional aliveness, infinite beauty etc ?

Aha, I'm feeling something in that, thanks !

All I'm saying is: Is the burn mark on my skin not proof that reality didn't actually disappear while I was sleeping ?

Are you saying alien intelligence is not a possibility ?

But Leo, if I close my eyes, I can still hear the traffic in the distance. When I close my ears, I can still feel the bed. When I remove my sense of touch, and fall asleep, if someone then burns my skin with a hot iron, the next morning there will be a burn mark.

Beautiful, thanks for sharing.

@Inliytened1, @Razard86 Have you guys had a permanent cessation of the sense of a separate self yet ? I could be wrong, but sometimes I feel it's a bit sketchy talking about God realization, while simultaneously there's still a separate self going in the background. (Of course I'm learning from Leo and others also, otherwise I wouldn't be here. As far as no self goes, Jim is one of the best to listen to. As I said earlier, the teaching/message is lean because it's really effective that way, not because he hasn't gone deeper per say.)

I understand the part about no self. But I'm just wondering if there aren't any higher dimensional principles/mechanisms functioning in the unseen realms that kind of help to translate nothing into something ?

How was it for you ?

Coffee's one hell of a drug

Yeah, it's like some part of me doesn't quite want to accept it, when Jim says: "It's all pure anarchy, and there's no one behind the wheel". Does that mean concepts like predestination etc don't exist ?

Daily walks on the beach. The ocean is something else. It's like visiting some kind of magical therapeutic art gallery.

Amen

This will be a good movie.

So there's no divine type laws etc, informing reality behind the scenes, that one could become conscious of, ie your saying it's all just unknowable mystery ?

True, and you can also add that most spiritual philosophy probably seems nuts to normies.

How does nothing turn into something, is it just pure magic ?

I'm bamboozled. Please can you say a bit more about this ?

Those events never actually happened (That would be a brilliant defense in court, I'm sorry ur Honor, that never actually happened)

It is funny though, paying someone else to find yourself