Wilhelm44

Thank you

I hear you. (knower and known would be two) Which is why it perplexes me when some say that it is possible.

There still seems to be this interesting apparent divide between those that say it's possible to know God, and those that seem to be more in a space of complete unknowing (not knowing anything).

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It does get more magical doesnt it🙂

And a blessed Friday to you too But I hear you, thank you.

I hear you, I just mean it's probably not possible for the whole universe to become some hellish nightmare, even though it would still be perfect. It would be too much of a swing in one direction. ie not a true reflection of the totality of God.

Okay i get it, thank you, so whatever happens it is still perfection. And ultimately the whole universe cant go off the rails so to speak, because it is God.

Wow. This does seem to imply the need for, or at least the possibility of, divine intervention at times, or am I wrong ?

Aha, so there is a perfect intelligence to this, but is there really like a script to it, like a divine destiny as such. My sense is that maybe that's what Jim meant by random. That it's unscripted in some way ?

Thank you.

So it's like a divine program running by itself ?

Yes, that's my sense to. So if everything is ordered by God's intelligence, why can we not say that God is in control. Like I notice that thoughts arise by themselves. Is God not doing that ?

I've heard Jim Newman say this as well. But then he goes a step further and says that everything is actually completely random. Like anarchy in a way, everything is happening at once. Do you agree ?

Not all New Age is BS. Some tarot readers do well financially. Tarot is more about giving you a new perspective on what's happening in your life. My wife's a tarot reader and she blows people away with her readings. Likewise, some energy healers are actually really powerful. But yeah, these manifestation coaches, literally telling people on Instagram that you can manifest millions or even billions out of thin air, they should be locked up.

Well yeah, what is always already here is beyond definition. I'm just curious about your use of the label called bliss.

Are you truly in bliss when noticing deep suffering of people ? @Hyperion

For me it relates more to moments of divine ecstasy. That which is always here, has more of an ordinariness to it, and yet also extraordinary in that it is the peace that surpasses all human understanding. Yet you seem to call it bliss, so I just find that interesting.

I was simply responding to what you said here: "Bliss is always available. You can open yourself up to it at any time"

You appeared out of nowhere like the angel of death with that message @Mellowmarsh I (and many others) really appreciate your wisdom on this forum. (you already know that nothing will come of this, just let it go.)

Okay, so this is not a yogi flying in the Himalayas, but how the hell do you jump up in the air while sitting cross legged. I think they are propelled by a burst of kundalini shooting out of the arse

I experience that peace that surpasses all human understanding quite often these days. I wouldnt necessarily say it's always blissfull as such. Do you have like a constant background of bliss ?

Blessings🙂

You lucky, you can literally hop on the train to most countries in Europe.