Wilhelm44

Happy Birthday good man !

@karkaore So you don't believe in parallel realities at all then ?

I love money. I love the ocean. I love the mountains. I love myself. I love you. No difference.

I would also add that having any sense of guilt towards one's past, also creates a resistance to receiving money. And spiritually minded people tend to be experts at carrying guilt around, even if in a very subtle form

I think what it boils down to is that a lot of spiritual people still see spirituality as something separate from, and more lofty than the practical world of money etc. In other words there is still some kind of internal split. Resistance to money can have many roots, but the ultimate cure is still self love.

Whether people like to admit it or not, this passage from the bible must have had an effect on the subconscious of many spiritually inclined people. "And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves."

I don't mean a return to a barter economy. I'm thinking something more next level. Beyond crypto also. Would it simply be a case of technology eventually becoming so good that everything becomes so abundantly cheap that money essentially becomes redundant ?

I couldn't agree more. Perhaps things are evolving naturally in that direction and also much faster than we think.

I remember reading about these Russian scientists a couple of years ago, who claimed to have discovered a way to turn any element on the periodic table into another element. I haven't heard from them since, so not sure if it was fake. But ultimately it must be possible.

Thank you, and I see there are actually a number of big companies already doing something like this.

@integral This is interesting. I am curious, in a flat hierarchy, do all the employees get paid a similar amount, or is it more a case of everyone receiving an equal or fair share of the profits the company makes ?

Yes, clearly there needs to be a massive shift in consciousness and technology for that to happen. And I wonder if it's something we might see the beginnings of in our own lifetime ?

With all of his shortcomings, would he still not be better for London than the other candidates ? Clearly he's not perfect, but at least he's into consciousness on some level.

@Haumea2018 True, so it all comes down to seeing through childhood decisions which may have given us the belief that it's not possible.

What is the main underlying difference between wealth consciousness and poverty consciousness ?

@mandyjw Wow, so paradoxically it could actually be easier to teach an abundance mindset to a kid living in a slum, than it might be to a child growing up in the suburbs. And it could be as simple as designing a fun game which encourages the child to notice the abundance of life all around and within on a daily basis.

@Epikur I like what he said about not just going for purely positive training, ie still having the ability to say no. Applied to humans, it reminds me of the concept that the mind needs to be a servant not a master. And it also got me thinking about the pleasure/reinforcement issue, ie where we get our dopamine hits from. Ideally we would want all areas of our life to become orgasmic in a sense. That would be true wealth. ie no separation.

@Epikur I agree, we have so much subtle and not so subtle childhood programming around wealth. Like the kid who sees a rich uncle being mean to someone, and then making a childhood vow to avoid wealth so as not to become a 'mean' person one day. Or parents telling their kids that being a business person simply doesn't run in the family. It's all a mental algorithm for sure, which simply needs to be seen with the clear light of awareness in order to unravel.

Yes, but the more people begin to wake up in mass and take back their power by realizing that they can make a good living by expressing their authentic true selves, the faster the old world master/slave system will become a thing of the past. Our collective consciousness as a species created that system in ignorance, but our collective consciousness can also redream a new world, perhaps much faster than we think.