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Maybe it's possible to create AI with some kind of pure sensory intelligence.

Like if my mind goes silent, I'm still conscious. Could the same be said of some AI robot, ie if access to information or calculation is cut off for a while

I think you might be onto something. It's like saying is the mind itself conscious. Are thoughts conscious. Are mental processes conscious. The answer would be no me thinks.

Yes, Jim says he is happy to do a free whatsapp call to settle this

You'd need to give Jim a call, pretty sure he does. I have more and more glimpses of this. This video by Leo is like a psychedelic in this regard.

It's funny, I just made this little video yesterday.

You seems to have all these quotes which Newman never said ps I don't agree with everything he says.

Once again, I'm not saying that mental functioning falls away.

I simply said, that sense of being a character on a linear timeline moving towards fulfillment. It's not a denial of human experience as such.

Cool, thanks.

Definition of self, ego etc seems to be quite tricky.

So that ego that wants to identify with nondual consciousness can also 'fall away' eventually ? But until it does there's not much we can do but notice it I guess. Does it just run out of steam eventually ?

Thank you

I like your definition also. But can you now see that we are giving different definitions for the self. For example you said something about a chief preferring 3 wives etc. And I clearly said that preferences and survival instincts don't fall away. So to say that it's impossible for the self to fall away, you are only talking about your definition of the self. Not the same self as what fell away for Jim or Mellowmarsh or VeganAwake etc.

I saw this quote somewhere: "Technology is always changing. The most advanced technology eventually becomes obsolete. Right now AI is considered to be advanced technology. One day it will be obsolete. Let that sink in."

I don't know if there's an official definition. Like when we were babies, there was no sense of self. At some point a sense of me comes online. Jim would say there's a contracted energy in the body. (That contracted energy might also be what fall's away in Adyashanti's so called awakening of the gut.) An I that takes personal ownership of thoughts and emotions. Believes itself to be the thinker and in control. An I which feels incomplete/separate and believes itself to be a character on a linear timeline towards fulfillment. But wholeness is already the case. Right in front of our noses. Closer than close. Too simple to notice. That I (personal ownership of thought/emotions, feeling incomplete/separate, sense of being a character on a linear timeline towards fulfillment) can 'fall away.' Personality remains. Preferences remain. Survival instincts remains. Behavior and preferences can go through gradual changes of course. @Mellowmarsh Will be able to give you a more accurate description of what exactly it is that 'falls away.'

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We can get pedantic about it, or we can just say that no self is a doorway. Plain and simple.

I think that's how antisemitism started. From google: Jewish people were falsely blamed for the death of Jesus for centuries, an accusation known as Jewish deicide (killing God). Eventually in 1965, during the Second Vatican Council, the Church issued Nostra aetate, declaring that the events of Jesus's passion cannot be charged against all Jews alive at the time, nor against Jewish people today.

Yes, probably. But that's your own fault for selling Jesus out to the Romans.

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Why ? What benefit in judging yourself

Judgements are empty thoughts. Empty words. Basman believed a thought which said, people who have nothing going on are losers. Then you believed a thought which said, well then i must be a loser. Thought believing thought believing thought to infinity, still equals empty thought.