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So it's not possible for all appearances to disappear one day ?

@Inliytened1 You done for now, Breakingthewall is really good with science.

Thank you for sharing, much appreciated.

Wow, that almost sounds too good to be true If you had to take a guess, what type of time frames are we looking at here ? I've seen a lot of people being very cynical, and now lately I'm beginning to see more optimistic people like yourself. (Thank you, I'll check out your video game thread.)

Wow, thank you. How do you see this playing out ? What will be our role or function on the planet, if AI robots can pretty much do anything ?

Nice, thank you.

Bingo

Nice

Just be open to the possibility that something that you thought was impossible, might actually be possible.

You funny bro, where are you, in Canada ?

I can't yet speak from firsthand experience with regards to the permanence issue. Mellowmarsh can.

I'm going to tap out here for now. @Mellowmarsh Please can you respond here, I feel you'll be able explain in a much clearer way. (Inliytened1 feels it would be impossible to function on a daily basis if the sense of a separate self has 'fallen away' permanently)

@Inliytened1 I won't be able to convince you with regards to Jim's experience. It might be a better idea to speak to Mellowmarsh, her sense of separate self has also 'fallen away' permanently.

Not sure what you mean by keeps words in chains ? I think the only thing we disagree upon is the possibility for things to go impersonal 24/7 and to still be able to function, as Jim claims he does. It's kinda pointless debating it though. All I can say is that since I started listening to Jim, I have experienced a rapid unravelling of the sense of a separate self. My memories don't have a sense of me anymore. And the sense of the realness of others is also fading fast. No going back now.

Totally, all there is, is This. He would say it's not a knowing. Just This.

And when you pop that personal solipsistic bubble you'll meet Jim in an impersonal field

No, but seriously, how will AI be able to experience emotions like us ?

You right, lets not derail the thread, all I can say is, don't worry, our government is way more corrupt than yours. "Well precisely That is what is so scary (to us) about this whole thing. That there is no distinction between human and synthetic mind. Notice that only solipsism overcomes this dilemma." Please can you say a bit more about what you wrote here ? (quoted from your AI thread)

Boring, what are you on about. You did something right in a past life to be born in America. I'll visit again when Trump is gone. (Heard too many horror stories of tourists arriving at the airport, and then mistakenly get shipped off to go and live with gangsters in a prison in Haiti. Jesus)

I have an Irish friend, it's contagious

"To be conscious is to have subjective, internal experiences—the "feeling" of what it is like to be you. It encompasses your waking awareness, individual sensations, emotions, and the unique way you perceive the world around you. [1, 2, 3, 4] Philosophers and scientists divide consciousness into two primary components: [1] Phenomenal Experience (Qualia): This is the raw "feel" of things, like the taste of a cup of coffee at a local Cape Town Cafe, the specific hue of a sunset, or the ache of a headache. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] Access/Reflective Consciousness: This is the ability to actively process information, think about your own thoughts (metacognition), and direct your attention intentionally. [1, 2]" Okay, so firstly, how will AI be able to experience emotions the way that we do ?

South Africa, and you ?

I see even Peter Diamandis' latest podcast has as it's heading something about Claude being conscious, I haven't listened yet though.

Thank God

I must admit, I found it a bit strange when you said that your experience of life hasn't changed one iota. Surely, with the sense of a separate self not being in the way anymore, so to speak, things will flow a bit smoother ? ie no resistance as such.