Wilhelm44

Thank you

I hear you. (knower and known would be two) Which is why it perplexes me when some say that it is possible.

There still seems to be this interesting apparent divide between those that say it's possible to know God, and those that seem to be more in a space of complete unknowing (not knowing anything).

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It does get more magical doesnt it🙂

And a blessed Friday to you too But I hear you, thank you.

I hear you, I just mean it's probably not possible for the whole universe to become some hellish nightmare, even though it would still be perfect. It would be too much of a swing in one direction. ie not a true reflection of the totality of God.

That's really beautiful and magical, thank you.

Okay i get it, thank you, so whatever happens it is still perfection. And ultimately the whole universe cant go off the rails so to speak, because it is God.

Wow. This does seem to imply the need for, or at least the possibility of, divine intervention at times, or am I wrong ?

Aha, so there is a perfect intelligence to this, but is there really like a script to it, like a divine destiny as such. My sense is that maybe that's what Jim meant by random. That it's unscripted in some way ?

Thank you.

This actually looks quite interesting, going to check it out, thanks.

Yeah, I hear you, I missed that, thank you.

So it's like a divine program running by itself ?

Thank you

no worries

I missed it by a nano second

Somehow it has my name above that quote that you are referring to, but I think it was Breakingthewall who said that.

Yes, that's my sense to. So if everything is ordered by God's intelligence, why can we not say that God is in control. Like I notice that thoughts arise by themselves. Is God not doing that ?

I've heard Jim Newman say this as well. But then he goes a step further and says that everything is actually completely random. Like anarchy in a way, everything is happening at once. Do you agree ?

Not all New Age is BS. Some tarot readers do well financially. Tarot is more about giving you a new perspective on what's happening in your life. My wife's a tarot reader and she blows people away with her readings. Likewise, some energy healers are actually really powerful. But yeah, these manifestation coaches, literally telling people on Instagram that you can manifest millions or even billions out of thin air, they should be locked up.

Beautiful, thank you for sharing.

And this surrender that happens sober, how would you describe it, what is it that surrenders ?

David Bowie with a whole bunch of muppets, looks like fun