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Well that was slightly condescending. Im guessing that lecture on instagram was aimed at normie men ? Edit, my bad, seeing now you were referring to normies.

I feel there's still value in learning from others from time to time. Just because Bentinho has some devilry in him, does not negate the fact that some wisdom flows through him as well. Same goes for Osho etc. You dont need to be a 'follower' to learn something new.

These days it feels like the only teachers who dont have any scandals are the old dudes like Tolle and Adyashanti. The only reason Leo dont have any scandals is because he's mostly a hermit. Just kidding Leo, we respect you.

https://www.instagram.com/reels/DX2k-eaR95G/ https://www.instagram.com/reels/DUnXO3PiH1d/ https://www.instagram.com/reels/DXJfJoDCBkW/

Didn't Leo also make a video about evil as something that doesn't really exist ? I think thats the actual point that DeMartini was making.

I get the impression that the accusers are portraying themselves as being under some sort of spell, where they didn't have any agency. I dont see this going to court.

Why do you view it as rape ?

I hear you, what were your thoughts on my question regarding the rape accusation ?

True, I think what DeMartini is good at is helping people see that on certain micro levels, they themselves have all the character traits of the people they demonize, and they also have all the character traits of the people they admire or put on a pedestal. Kind of like a bridge to what you were saying about us being forced to accept that we literally are everyone.

DeMartini is old school, but he's pretty smart. It's a relevant conversation, because a lot of people are falling into the trap of portraying Epstein etc as something objectively evil out there to be fought against. DeMartini was trying to open Aubrey's mind, but he wouldn't budge.

Im just curious, how come you are not more critical of your country's government ?

Excellent conversation. Aubrey just couldn't get his head around this one.

Brilliant.

@Olaf As far as the rape accusation goes: Apparently at a group session, someone shared a traumatic event where they were raped. Afterwards Bentinho told Jade that he wanted to roleplay a rape. Which of course is creepy as hell. Im trying to figure out how this would work in court tho. If you partcipate in a rape roleplay without protesting or saying no at the time, and then some time afterwards you decide that you really werent okay with that, does that count as rape ? (Bentinho definitely has a lot to answer too, but I think some of these accusers also need to take responsibility for the fact that they were so eager to be in the limelight with the guru, that they were willing to stop thinking for themselves.) They seem to be portraying themselves now as having been really vulnerable at the time. But they weren't newbies, some of these people in his inner circle were already hosting their own retreats before they met him.

This latest video even has rape allegations. Apparently Bentinho hiding in the Himalayas. It's hard to know what's the real truth here. Can't quite put my finger on it, but something about some of these accusers feels a little off as well.