[Does it matter what we do?]

22 minutes ago, Nahm said:

For sure, and you as well.  I’d say in accordance & alignment with feeling & conscience. Wether it matters & to what degree is always up to you.  Another perspective on Jesus and Siddhartha is we know their names because they didn’t choose sides. 

I think I understand what you mean. Just out of curiosity do you agree with my initial stance that existence is balance and isn’t tilted towards any direction? But I think Jesus did take a side he chose the side of selfless love. The Buddha was all about non attachment/non asceticism « the middle way ». 

im curious if there is anyone out there who reached and preached enlightenment but also promoted seemingly degenerate principles of violence/hatred/egoism  

[Does it matter what we do?]

11 minutes ago, Nahm said:

 

If interested, read your original post in the light that time is a thought. 

Notice duality, or twoness, is of thought. This & that, up & down, left & right, matters & doesn’t matter. Making up meaning as you go. Let thoughts go and there is the ‘answer’. 

 

Im not asking how to become enlightened, I’m asking about how you act in life outside of this forum. You can’t just revert to "your natural state of being" as an answer to life’s  challenges. Jesus and Buddha both chose sides and had clear messages. 
 

and apologies, I appreciate your response. I do not mean to come off as harsh. 

[Does it matter what we do?]

8 minutes ago, Nahm said:

Timelessly. 

Could you elaborate? Do you vote left or right? Do you eat vegan? Would you attempt to save someone being robbed or walk past and say "it was meant to be"? Will you let your kids get trashed before they are 18? 

[Leo's Health affecting teachings]

11 minutes ago, Flyboy said:

I have felt like they've been a little lazier lately.  Like low-hanging fruit topics that don't require as much insight or research.

But hey, the guy is dealing with some serious health issues and the tension between this work and his own path, so I admire him for pressing on with actualized.org anyway.  Still enjoy listening, even if I don't get quite as much profundity these days.

He is dealing with health issues? Where did you hear this? (Curious) - and hoping he is well. 

[Does it matter what we do?]

Hey y'all, God here. Could you help me find a flaw in my reasoning here? 

>Something "exists" because Nothing is by definition, unstable (what prevents nothing from turning into something).
>Since something exists, over time at least, it must include all possible outcomes (creation, destruction) - it's inevitable, no? 
>Lets call the total sum of everything (infinity) God. But of course this also includes the Devil (ego consciousness). This also includes matter (even as an expression of consciousness, that which "you and I" are experiencing right now). 
>All of existence is simply a balance of energy resulting in 0, not biased to any side
>Everything that is happening now, has happened before ad infinitum and you may even argue that it is all happening all at once (it had to happen this way, there is no other possibility) 
>Add in all of the lessons of religion such as "desires lead to suffering", whatever Jesus said about love, whatever the Hindus said.

If you become enlightened now, eventually your human body and experience will fade away and you will "forget" your godliness and be reborn in some distant universe as a Cow on his way to the slaughterhouse, stressing the fuck out, and wondering why this is happening. This is the eternal loop of reality. I may be getting the details off a bit, as there is no real thing as "death" or "rebirth" as all of this is an illusion anyways, but the reality is that you will live extremely shitty lives (even hell realms) and you will live great lives. Existence, Brahman, or "being God" is simply remembering and forgetting that you are god. Heaven is temporary, hell is temporary (as defined by states of consciousness). The only constant is change. 

So my question, if you agree with my above assessment, how do you guys approach things like politics and so on? or purpose? Why does it matter if the Democrats or the Republicans win? It is all an illusion. Before I would be passionate about politics because I felt my convictions were rooted in truths, but if the truth is that everything and nothing is true, why pick a side? 

Edit: I am not asking this because I want to go out and start committing "evil" acts, but, I am genuinely curious how you guys approach things in life. What guides your politics? Do you just follow your heart because "It feels good in this life?". "It feels like its the right thing to do?" Are you Balance seekers? Or are you biased towards the politics of love? Enlighten me. 

TL:DR It doesn't really matter what you do, everything that has happened will happen (it had to) and this is all just one big illusion. If you're suffering, you will experience joy eventually, but heaven probably lasts just as long as hell does. With this in mind, how do you approach your ethics and purpose? 

Best regards,

-God a.k.a the Devil, looking within for some discussion with myself


 

[Could the entire world become enlightened?]

Does such a question even make sense? Could all human beings become enlightened in some some Nano-technological future? I imagine it would not be permanent as the only constant is change, and the inevitable heat death of the universe would give rise to a new realm of unawake unconscious beings and the cycle would begin again forever and ever.  

[Is a part of enlightenment full surrender and acceptance of pain and joy?]

Hello lovely people

I have considered myself awake for quite some time now, in the sense that I believe that my life is some kind of cosmic dream, a vibration in an all encompassing whole. While meditation gives me peace in my life, I have never really had any meditative experiences and I believe it may be due to the “comfort” I have in my life, and my unwillingness to completely surrender to the idea that when I die, I may experience a life a thousand times worse than mine. I truly struggle with the question:

"if I am the universe experiencing itself (the only way existence could ever be), does that mean that joy can only exist when an equal amount of pain does? 
 

While I find myself on most days loving the world and all it’s beauty on most days, I always wonder if true enlightenment is a full surrender to the most noblest of truths which is that for all of the goodness of my life, there must exist an equal amount of badness. 
 

Has anyone else come to this conclusion? I ask because I truly understand the power of love and surrender I just wonder if it is not the entire picture.