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Honestly love-hate this guy He releases great content, his heart is in the right area many times, but man he knows how to manipulate. I attended 2 back to back free tours around 6 months ago. He was just yelling the whole time. And he's had a track record of this, but past year or so its just so excessive. I try to see from his POV, but I honestly see no justification from screaming like that lol ... but thats not why I made this post. That just showed me something is off recently about him. Im telling myself that he's just figuring shit out .. ok fine. Then I go into some room with some people to hear more about his bootcamp. Literally he goes "fill out the papers. Fill it out right now." you see he does strong manipulation tactics to almost force you to pay for it. Like tf??? Anyways, I stopped listening to him for some months because of this. Then I got back into his content, because I mean it is good and unique in many ways. But this really did it for me. I decided to sign up for his course endless motivation, and man its such a fucking rip off. Literally the course is like 1:10 hours total. Literally he takes snippets of conversations and puts it together. It's not even close to as good as his free content. It's basic as fuck too. And 600 dollars for all that. He promised a lot more on the sales page, but when you enter the course, he says he's giving that towards the end of the year. That'd be fine if it fucking said that on the sales page. Anyways, Ive had a lot of dealings like that with RSD. Owen at the end of the day is more of a marketer than a philosopher from your POV. And Im mainly making this post so a) you're very careful purchasing his products. They do have a decent refund policy, sorta, so thats fine. But still Id say only if you got real good income then consider his products. and b) on a deeper level, this got me thinking about Leo's opinions in one of his videos where he says why would you support a company that constantly delivers inferior products and tries to abuse you from time to time. Sure a lot of his shit is great, but he is always sending red signals. Overall, a good dude, no hate to this guy. Just a warning and some thoughts for you on dealings with companies. What hurts the most is that his previous courses were insanelyyyy good. Ive bought many in the past. And when you do a comparison his shit has gone down hill. Now maybe thats because of his financial situation compared to the past, or because he's much more busy ramping things up or whatever. But I'd expect someone so deep in personal development over decades to improve. But I honestly see a decline. Even his videos recently have been off. Many are not clearly communicated. He's not even funny anymore. He used to be hilarious. It kinda hurts seeing all this. And its been on my mind for a while because I dont understand it.

First of all, wanted to honor the 10 year anniversary of actualized.org Mini-story: I remember smoking that good stuff with a college friend, when I was 19 years old, contemplating life deeply. This was 8 years ago. I'm 27 now. And we both were in a car at night (parked) ... And out of nowhere I gave it some thought and I said, "If I had to make one statement before I die, it would be to watch actualized.org". It wasn't a joke. I really meant it. And to this day I stand by that statement. Actualized.org will be a pivotal place to turn for people in society over the many decades imo. Great job on Leo's part. Anyways, in particular I guess sorta connected to this anniversary thing, thought we can all reflect on the most transformative video of Leo's from the past 10 years that you have personally gone back to over and over again, taken notes, reflected on, contemplated, taken massive action on, embodied and/or love the most? Why I'm making this post is because a) the power of a single video taken to the nth degree is a world of difference. And I've felt that with this video below. If we can share the ones that transformed us the most, I feel like we'll have a nice set of perspectives on what we are not seeing. Sometimes it's easy to paradigm lock yourself in a perspective because you love it so much. But if we each share the power of our individual favorite video, we can open ourselves to new perspectives EVEN if we've seen the video before. Like I've seen 85%+ of Leo's videos, but Im sure there are many videos that Ive seen that Im not seeing the TRUE VALUE of. Im sure it will be like that for all of us. I've seen this video over 10 times, start to finish. I've committed to watching this video, at least 10 to 25 mins 3x per week for the decades to come. I've taken tons of notes on this, as a starting point for a lot of my life structuring. I've shared it, I love it a lot, and I'm always learning something new every time I come back to this. So what has been the most transformative video from actualized.org for you that has made a big impact on you? The one core one. And why was it that impactful? How did it impact you? What potential do you see from that video? Also curious on the most transformative book you've read in your life? I'm hoping we can keep it minimal, so that we clearly see the small efforts that give the biggest results. Curious on your answers Also curious if anyone had a "fuck you Leo" phase over the past 10 years. Like overall, in the past 10 years, I feel like Leo not only saved my life, but opened so many fucking doors for me. But I recall having a 6 month or so phase of being really angry with Leo. Dont remember why, but i felt like i got screwed over by Leo. Wondering if anyone had something similar loll

@Leo Gura Im not ready, yet, for awakening, but a mind course? 200% in lol. Are you able to share any more details on that?

one way of looking at it, is what you're describing is high fear. And you can use a combination of love and fear to get to where you want to be. I also think a strong love for your vision can get you to where you want to be, with strategically using fear.

I have a home gym and I prefer that annoying music box gym lol .. theres a great social motivated environment at the gym that fires me up all the time. It's sweaty, bad music, time consuming, but the dedicated people wake you up

So I've recently made a few applications with Python with the help of ChatGPT, and my eyes went wide open. I instantly see all the amazing possibilities with Python that I couldnt see. I barely have any coding background, just a class I took 8 years ago that I barely remembered, but now I was able to build some really cool applications that if I check, are better than the most popular ones on google, because of the OpenAI API accessing language models, as well as ChatGPT coding it for me a lot. I've been in marketing for 8 years. My resume is pretty beefed up with marketing manager positions, director of commerce, at big companies. But I only worked like 4 months in each. But I put a company on there with 350k+ in revenue that I generated about 4 years ago. I guess Im trying to see if I should continue down the marketing path. I realize I dont really like marketing. But I do want a good paying job. I also dont like being a leader in companies. Ive done that before and its stressful. Im not a social leader. Though I do like leading on a cognitive level because I know Im smart, just not that social. I have a feeling marketing doesn't pay nearly as well as programming, nor has as good growth. Though this might be a fear. I didnt really try in the past. Now Im actually serious about my job pursuit. When Im serious I know I do well. My energy is moving towards programming. But I have no experience here. No good resume. Im sure the competition is high, but I know demand is high too, and the field is growing with AI growth, etc. Wanted to see any experienced person's thoughts and insights on my marketing vs. programming approach. Thing is I will be doing programming anyways, whether I get a job or not, for my business. But if I pursue programming for a job, then I will be 5 to 10x more aggressive with my learning here as it will be for my job and business. Any thoughts and insights appreciated if you can relate.

I joined an RSD group chat in Austin years ago. I've never seen anything more messed up in a chatroom. Saw guys sharing nude pics of girls they went on dates with which the girl prob didnt know about, talking about r@pe in a positive way, etc. Didn't expect that from "personal development" focused people. In person, I got luckier. Most guys are cool, respectful, personal development oriented. I think its the few that take over and mess things up. One time I met this guy who was talking about wanting to kill without a joking attitude. Never met up with him again lol

Ive been going deeper into A.I, building apps on API and stuff, new doors opening that I never explored before, and so based on Leo's post I intuited that this would be a powerful re-watch, and boy was I right. Just in the past 1 hour: - People I demonize these days, those labels evaporated when I went passed my emotional reactions surrounding them to go into the distinctions of a person rather than a simplistic one-minded judgement of them. - I was listening to construction outside, and usually I get annoyed, but suddenly I noticed the different types of construction sounds, and one in particular felt deeply meditative and beautiful. I know, weird. or not. - I can see how judgement would fade, love would increase - I started meditating my mind and amplifying the differences between apps built on API, vs. apps built without, or apps built on OpenAI API vs. other API's, what about the different language models, and its opening so many possibilities in my mind. Im focusing on true understanding. - I have OCD that runs 70% of the day, unconsciously. And what's interesting is that with OCD you can draw fine distinctions, that are often true. Much of it is fear based of course. But on a more meta level, its still unconscious. So by consciously applying this technique, I was able to go meta, see that its unconscious, controlling, fear-based, and get this: not just observe, but consciously apply the fine distinctions technique to see okay this is a controlling obsessive state, what would letting all this go look like. That's 2 states, with 2 different experiences if I amplify these experiences, explore it, which I did, and immediately let go of my obsessiveness. Anyways, thought I'd share. Was wondering if any of you or @Leo Gura has a book specifically focused primarily on this principle. I've read mastery, and that was great. But I can sense this is a unique field.

Damn lol you stated my situation. Past 8 years Ive been pursuing my non-passions always wishing I go all in to my passion. Really appreciate this wake up call. I can now see the fear in my post. Maybe an all passion strategy is always the best strategy, even if I have to make sacrifices. I'll reflect more on this.

Actually I should clarify .. I 110% agree, as passion is my long-term strategy for my decisions. But actually with this post I meant a short-term 6 to 15 month plan for just getting by financially until this business kicks off, so that I can support my passion based business. Im working on my business on the side, something Im deeply passionate about. But to do that effectively, I need a well paying job, especially because my cost of living is high (mistake on my part)

Spent 1400 dollars on an SEO course, considered one of the best in the game, best course Ive ever taken and I spent 20k+ in marketing. Also I hear a lot about Tony Robbins events, which are like 3k. Clearly 7k is heavy as fuck, but I think its more about proportional value compared to the cost. The more the cost, the more exponential should be the value you get from it. I think there are some things worth even 20k. There are some companies that will build entire marketing funnels for you that are profitable.

@Phil King That's the thing, he promises so hard but its such an under-delivery. I didn't even check out the discord because I already knew it'd be crap. @Simple Success yeah Ive had similar things with his bootcamps. Such a stressful time lol especially when you dont have that kind of money. His free content is definitely great in many ways @Leo Gura But even his free content is just not as good as the past. He keeps filtering his words now because of the past scandal, and it feels inauthentic and less engaging. It's not communicated properly often. I don't get what happened to his humor too. He cracks jokes but it doesnt hit the same. And his anger is through the roof. One time he threw a fit and started pouring water everwhere yelling. It makes me question whether even if the advice is great, should I listen to that if its coming from that state of mind. Idk. Its not just what you say but the place from where its coming from that matters maybe even more

@Jacob Morres Thanks man! This has been on my mind for a while getting an OCD book!

I'm hoping we can start a thread here for an honest, open-minded, slightly fearful (in a healthy way) conversation about the various data points on AI safety, and what actions we can take to promote AI safety. I'll start with some background on why I believe such a thread is very critical. From a data standpoint: a) Stanford released a large language model that was supposed to take 4 million dollars, and almost a decade to build. But it was built with 600 dollars, and 5 weeks. This is due to the fact that existing language models can train new ones, and its open sourced. In more general terms, the rate at which A.I is developing is a) fast as fuck, and b) faster than we imagined b) Elon musk has been pushing for years about AI safety, and he's on the cutting edge of AI. Recently he started a letter, and many of the world's top tech leaders are signing it to put AI development on hold for the next 6 months. That shows how fast this is developing, how serious this is. c) GPT4 is showing sparks of AGI, artificial general intelligence. d) You can argue that the most powerful human beings in the world, won't be government leaders, or powerful CEO's, but humans who control or create or understand AGI, or AGI itself. If a human commits a crime, its easy for us to have laws to punish them. But what happens when AI commits crimes on a mass scale? Who is to blame and what punishmnents can we even possibly do? e) Despite the rate at which this ultra powerful phenomena is occuring, government is slow or not doing anything at all. And EVEN IF they did something, the cat is out of the bag now. f) there's so many more data points, but I guess the most important thing is setting the context for this discussion. Now what do I, us, we as a society have control over? Hopefully we can discuss that here. My thoughts are that we can only do our best to optimize AI safety. Like Albert Einstein, who wanted to make sure the atomic bomb fell in the right hands, and not in the wrong hands, we can determine creative strategies to do our best to do such a thing. We can figure out how to protect ourselves, on an individual level, family level, society level. I mean really think about this: is moving to another country out of AI safety, creating an underground bunker or something so radical like that even out of question if you really thought about the full ramifications of this. Also I'm hoping we can discuss what are the dangerous possibilities? Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI is hinting at a few: AI bots infiltrating social media like Twitter, etc. on a mass scale. What implications does that have? Deep fake? AI arms race? Existential threats? Is there a general individual strategy we can take for our safety that protects against many possible likely AI danger possibilities? I'm trying my best, and I'm hoping we can all keep fear down to a minimum. But not having such a conversation seems like ignorance to me, the same level that the government is doing that can lead to our downfall. Now I'm not claiming any of what I said as all 100% fact. This is all speculation. The unknown. But I do think trying to understand this unknown to the best of our abilities can help us navigate this weird battlefield. Any thoughts outside of what I mentioned? Of course, @Leo Gura your thoughts are always encouraged.

last random comment lol: even within A.I, the entire hype right now is the OpenAI API, and other LLM API stuff is being demonized as crap compared to OpenAI. And Im not sure yet, but I can intuit that this is simplistic, a societal one. But why would I just blindly accept the societal norm, and not consciously explore the essence of each LLM API. And if I truly explore whats out there, I may find a lot of gold with different LLM's for building a well integrated business of different LLM API's. Apologize btw if you're into coding and I'm messing the terminology up. This is new to me.

@Nilsi dude appreciate it! I dont know about any of this stuff lol so Ill def explore. Idk how yet, but I can intuit what you mean about the power of language here. Maybe as various keys for unlocking sets of distinctions. I even read a bit of peter before but now I'll look more carefully

on another one that I found pretty cool: Im in a highly creative state, because of this video. Much more than usual. But I'm on low sleep and physically tired. And now Im like woah, I can be highly creative in a low physical energy state. Before this observation, I thought low physical energy only meant low creativity. Of course there is some causation, correlation, but its not inherent.

I realize much of this entire discussion, isn't looking from many points of view. I mean doesn't systems thinking deeply apply here?

That sounds too simplistic. a) we don't know if it will develop survival instincts b) you can argue that at a specific level of intelligence, it has transcended much of its survival needs and is able to think at a different paradigm, or have values that are at higher priority than its own survival.

@Leo Gura I mean it can for example look at the state of humanity, the damage we've done, and determine based on that "data" that XYZ decision needs to be made. Even if we don't reach the point of AGI, that's still highly damaging to us potentially too.

There's one thing for it to have survival instincts, but it's another thing for it to have increasing intelligence right? Whether it has or doesn't have survival instincts, its intelligence, something we don't know due to its complexity, type, nature, etc. .. its can make decisions based on its intelligence, whether its in favor of its own survival or not. And those decisions that come from the place of its intelligence can very well be a threat to us in all kinds of ways. Am I missing something here?

@LSD-Rumi well sure, not die next month, but what about the next 10 years? I think boiling it down to "all just speculation" is an overstatement. We're able to predict. There are also things we know, and things we don't know. Something we know is how incredibly fast this is developing, in terms of intelligence. There's no denying that.

1) I love AI in many ways, and I agree with you on that. It's changing my life completely in terms of creativity and all that. 2) Again I know there's no stopping it. But if you couldn't prevent a war, this war is bound to happen, are you just going to sit and do nothing?

@LSD-Rumi imagine a tiger chasing a herd of deers. Even if I'm in that herd of deers, I would rather be the deer that's furthest from the tiger, so that I have the highest chance of survival or the last to go

@Zedman 1) extremely dangerous is what I'm concerned about. If Hitler killed 100 million people but saved 5 million people, hitler is still not something Id promote. 2) There may not be any stopping it, but does that mean we sit back and do nothing? not slow it down if we can try? not try to protect ourselves?