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@SolarWarden hm, not necessarily saying much.

here might be an approach to inspect connections between mb-types and progression as well as probabilistic grouping of these types to spiral dynamics stages. i heard from someone that they changed the type from intj to infp after psychedelics, i believe. so i can imagine it is more likely for infj's or infp's to be higher on the spiral than maybe estp's or istj's. and also maybe find to each type a somewhat general approximation of the expression of its develepment along the spiral, as long as a type is preserved when progressing. maybe at some higher stages it narrows mb-type occurrences down? so if someone wants to start, i have little motivation for it.

@Megan Alecia not sure what you just said

alright you guys thanks for the heads up

On my way to groceries i met a father with apparentlly 5 of his children. One girl of it was crying much the others were laughing at her and when she went to the father he laughed at the daughter as well, pointed at her and signaled me to laugh with him as well. As i was not amused about it, gave the man hatred in an attempt to shift the focus of attention onto the father's responsibility so to say and give the girl an emotional window. the man looked a bit in contempt and ashamed i suppose. Afterwards my conscience kept nagging me because i wasn't present at a time to fully grasp the hole situation. Not sure what i could have done else, he was hardly able to speak german (probably a workforce from eastern europe), not sure if i could have reached him via explanation towards a more compassionate/responsable behavior.

hm ok

@Shin no, more from the perspective whether i could have reacted lovingly/holistically, but how? Maybe the father will burden the child more for this negative experience. maybe my reaction was too strong and the situation was not hard. maybe i should have not interfered at all. Felt like there was too little background info is what was occupying me at that time.

You guys will spare yourselves a lot of pitfalls and suffering if you listen to @Scholar

@mmKay oh my lord that is funny

No it is not ethical to sexually pleasure animals as it is not ethical to sexually pleasure children. You responsibility as a human here is to realize how to softly help animals to grow in their own environment, they are not here to be used as bought companions or as an extensions of your narcissism. That means animal companionship is unethical unless it was constructed by "natural" occurrences or for the sake of holistic nourishment, which means breeding them and buying from a breeder are unethical.

@Jordan Welsh forgive me for stepping in, but i believe those should be implication signs (actually i am on the fence) that was very well said and i like it, but i believe my question was with respect to the linked discussion asking for a bit explicity, after all most of us are beings of time and instant god realization feels deeply buried, so some weighing of biases may appear necessary, don't you agree?

@Jordan Welsh yes, many of us heard that and you seem to be pokee about it. What do you think will happen when both become aware of their respective bias?

What would be your solution here? you are judging too, give us something productive.

@Emerald avoidant people can be very attached in relationships since those can be comfortable

They should. Can you not see that bias is a perspective and what seems to be real too?

@BipolarGrowth of course! not. @Kalo don't hold it against me

Same reason why veganism is not playing a dominant role

@The0Self i am not looking to quiet the mind in particular

So i joined an evangelic christian group today and took part in a meeting/discussion. i am/was not fully satiesfied with their interpretation on some of the texts, i wished some of them would not focus on it as a rule book and open up to it philosophically, so i have to learn humbleness here, although they seemed not to be stucked up about it. the prayers felt good, it is different feeling people in an meditative mode then in awake ego, it more pleasant and emotionally empowering. I felt a bit of an unpleasant shamefulness in retrospection, not thoughts but feeling of judging (shame/cringe) myself for the unusualness of taking part in this so openly, so that is good.

@Nahm i don't know, you should.

@Nahm it was regarding your implication not value asignment

@The0Self don't forget

@Moksha @Moksha thank you for the advise friend buddhism seems boring

@Nahm depends on how you interpret it, but those words were used.

@The0Self tell me your experience