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@Natasha Tori Maru I am not talking about commitment yet, hence the thread title. Simply the getting to know each other phase. Do you want to get to know 5 people at once? Or just one?

You can def go WAY deeper than what is the norm. And especially than what is pushed in PUA. Last evening I had a first date with a girl for 5 hours. I got quite a strong sense of what she is about. But she is way more self-aware than a typical person, otherwise it would not have been possible. Otherwise I would not have gone on a date with her. This whole notion of having to take things very slow, and keep it light and playful in the beginning is a total conformity. And a total waste of time.

Because you are playing around and taking it too lightly. Find out about her soul in the first few dates and it won’t have to take so long.

Instead of Frame Controlling, you should have a Strong Frame. It’s very different. The former is try-hard, the latter is strenght.

The other way of saying this is: Play to win, not to not lose.

I’m sick of hearing this social circle strategy as being the solution to all dating problems. It is not. Nor do many people have interest in wasting so much time and energy on it. Also, for introverts it ill be much trickier.

Yet, you need to spend enormous amount of time on social circle to find such a simple thing. Just take the girl on a date, you will find out immediately. You also talk like social circle doesn’t have limits. It’s not like you can date through everyone in the circle. 1 girl in a circle at once, max.

No. You don’t need to waste endless time on social circle, if you know what you are doing. You can find all that out and more in 1-2 dates, if you don’t fuck around playing pua social circle games.

Everything you did today was very good for starters. But remember there are further steps you need to master like making her chase for your validation, going on insta dates, leading and closing — otherwise these convos will go nowhere and the numbers will remain very weak.

Agree. This is very important. If you can pull this off in a non-needy way, most of ur work is done after the initial approach and hooking.

I think if I spend 3 dates with a girl, it’s time to drop everyone else and just focus on her. Otherwise you are doing something seriously wrong.

Bro has never had a real Father in his life showing him how to behave.

I am cult’s Father.

Sit down 😘

Wrong. I am your Father.

You got it, son. For I am your Father and Natasha is your GodMother. Behave, or be banished and banned, I mean punished.

I am your Father.

What the fuck is going on here. As a moderator, I grant you all to be my little children. I am your father.

Can we have an in-depth discussion about this? In my personal life, I have been fluctuating between these two. I grew up being programmed for monogamous. But at my peak PUA and hippie phase, I was all for polyamory as it fit my narrative and goals. Then studying Leo from 2020 onwards, I came to realize that polyamory for many is just spiritual by-passing, as it was for me too. Now at this point, I am back to being for monogamy but there are people like Teal that makes strong arguments for polyamory. I would love me a hard core ”die on this mountain” partner to develop a monogamous relationship with, like how Naftali Moses promotes. Yet my experience with girls + the arguments people like Teal makes, makes me contemplate polyamory again too. But obviously this time from a place of maturity, as teal puts it. What do you guys think? What are you more for? What are the pros and cons? What are some less obvious reason for and against?

So today I learned a new word that describes me and wanted to share somewhere!!!! Has nothing to do with this thread. Or maybe it does!

Cuz I’ve gotten a lot of shit for my HEALTHY aggression

The next one is so graceful. It is in Finnish so you don’t understand it but basically it is about love in the symbol of a butterfly, hence I move like a butterfly in it, such grace. Enjoy and support me by commenting something lovely! ❤️ https://www.instagram.com/reel/Db8oO6XCMXC/?igsh=amVtbnJheGM4bHk1

@r0ckyreed I think you are going against conformity by suggesting this

This!!!!!! Some situations just need more aggression, and some people. Also, leaders, deeply passionate people, highly ambitious are more aggressive in nature. It’s a feature, not a bug.

The worst part is he also calls some of these girls INTELLIGENT, but will still cheat iF YoU hAve FRAME