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When I was younger, I used to sometimes pull and close 2-3 times a day here in the west. Most of them were not the hottest type tho. Looking back, the level of corruption and unconsciousness required to do that was awful.

Do you mean high empathy?

Of course. But it can materialize in many ways.

@svreishren Screams ChatGPT anyways

Of course if you are trying to convince someone of something, then you are in their frame, not yours. That’s the whole point. When attracting girls, don’t convince them of truth. And definitely take the frame of you are the shit (attractive frame), and that you don’t need them - even if it is BS.

I can certainly dance to that, but mostly for fun on my own. What I am looking for is leaving a raw, honest, authentic, and deep emotional impact. That's the brand I want to create. This beat doesn't really have those elements. It's more for chilling.

Truth = destruction of fantasies, self-deceptions, lies, BS. OP started a conversation about whether there is reconciliation between frame control and Truth. I answered to that.

Hi, and welcome to the forum. So to preface, I have a lot of dating experience. We are talking 10k+ approaches, 10 years of on and off gaming, multiple long-term gfs etc. And the short answer to your question is: do not aim for Truth in dating. That's the surest way to lose all your girls. I was like you and I had to learn it the hard way, again and again because I was stubborn. Perhaps you need to learn it the hard way too. Of course there is always an exception to the rule, but in this case, the exception is virtually non-existent. Take me for example, I am 30 years old (actually 31, I turned today!), the girls I find attractive are around my age and younger. How many of girls in this age group is highly develop and conscious? And how many of those are also physically attractive enough? Girls unlike us, are emotional beings. Even the most conscious women are not necessarily doing hard-truth type of spirituality. They are more people orientated, like girls in general are. Teal Swan teaches trauma and relationships for example. So to summarize: destroying fantasies of girls with truth is a damn terrible idea. Doing the opposite is what gets you the results in dating. Thing of dating more like money making. Exhaust that desire, burn through the karma, and then let it go. Transcend higher.

Go ahead. I am very specific with my music tho so no promises but I am very curious to see what people here would want me to dance to!

@AerisVahnEphelia Let’s see again how you feel when you are starving to death.

Good to hear.

Interesting. How did this manifest / play out?

Been super busy with life and survival but I'm gonna start creating again. Don't forget the caption (writing)! https://www.instagram.com/p/DQ14otTgqrf/

I have suicidal thoughts sometimes, who doesn't. I have them during really tough and low times, during times I’m badly stuck and feel hopeless. And pretty much every time the way I've dealt with it has been by just getting crystal clear about my values, what I want, what is a life worth living for, and is it reachable? Is there anything beautiful I can live for? I can fight for? If there is, then simply just by aligning myself to the path towards that already pulls me out of it. Getting out of my ego, and focusing on things that actually matter is the key. I am realizing now, but finding beauty in life is really what keeps me going. Without beauty, life is utterly meaningless and grey.

Most people here haven't even mastered their survival, including me. Forget about enlightenment.

To build a beautiful human life based on higher purpose, top values, and deep alignment. To be able to provide massive value to humanity with my beauty and work - to truly, truly master my craft (this one gives me tremendous joy and happiness). On top of this, having a decent social life, a relatively conscious and mature romantic relationship, a beautiful house (and a second smaller one for deep focused work), and financial stability and freedom. Health and fitness are definitely top priority too, and a non-negotiable. Luckily I have learned to love playing football (soccer) and dancing from childhood, and going to the gym ever since teen. And I absolutely love healthy food too. Finally, probably pursue deep Awakening and Consciousness. This will be left to be seen once I am in a place in life, where I can actually do serious, focused pure spiritual work. I shall see then, that how far I want to push it. Maybe all the way, maybe not much more than what I have reached so far. Thanks for the question and allowing me to do this reflection.

Seems like you have strong natural ambition in your personality temperament. Don't let spiritual brainwashing repress it. Use it to develop yourself through the spiral stages, and finally, create amazing stuff for yourself and the world.

For a lot of average, normal people, probably gets worse. They start simply just vegetating, turning into zombies. At least from outside observation. For us serious self-developers and pure spiritualists, life tend to get better as we mature, get to know ourselves deeper, develop more courage and wisdom to go after what we truly want from life - considering the fact that health doesn't deteriorate too badly. But at the same time, damn the hard core spiritual work does create the most depressing black pill existential crises. I deal with that by diving deep into creating art. Intuition says that with proper integration, the black pills turn into tremendous power for cutting-edge and amazing breakthroughs in any fields that I touch, but mostly art, as that is my main focus.

Of course. Take care of your basics and burn through your karma.

@WonderSeeker I have had sex with many girls. In my younger years, I was excited about it but as I got more and more of it, and also matured more, I just couldn't get an erection anymore, even tho I had a beautiful girl in my bed. I remember beating myself up for it. And it is not performance anxiety, as I am very confident in my sexual skills since I have been sexually active all my adult life and have proactively worked on improving it. It just feels extremely mechanical, repetitive, and meaningless. I remember the most toxic thing I did regarding this I believe was one time I couldn't get it up, and I had to in the middle of it, take a "toilet break" just to go watch some of my favorite porn to get it up and go back to get started. But truly, all these sexual experiences were awful. Feels too transactional and that I am only treating the girl as a sex object, rather than a vibrant human being. Contrast this to having sex (make love) with a girl I actually like, and more importantly, Respect and Value on a deeper level than just the surface beauty. Suddenly, I am always fully turned on near her, and I can have sex with her all day, even if she is not the most beautiful girl. The attraction and pull I have towards a girl I adore vs a girl I only see as a shell is like 100X difference. I need to be really into a girl emotionally to truly desire her. I need the girl to be one I love spending time with, rather than just want to kick them out immediately after I come. Here is a more in-depth story I recently wrote on how I figured my desire for connection, and how it also fixed my ED. Another thought that came to my mind is that my home is a deeply special place for me. I have very carefully and with deep love made it a sacred place for me, with lots of meaning, beauty, experiences and art. Bringing a random hook up whom I couldn't care less about to my divine place feels like a complete self-betrayal. Most of these stage orange materialist girls most likely even finds my home weird. It is a complete misalignment. My home is too beautiful for them! On a more general note, it feels like I am allowing unconsciousness to enter my being when I have shallow, random, transactional hook ups. I think it all just boils down to having a sexual experience with a girl from a place of ego and unconsciousness vs conscious authentic self. It does strongly seem like I have developmental demi sexuality (not necessarily fully developed tho), since I wasn't always like this (innate). I have always been a deeply caring and empathetic person tho, but it has increased dramatically throughout the years. What about you? P.S - way to go off the trail of the original thread lol. But since others didn't wanna share their experiences, might as well Warning: I am at a place where I am, at a relatively young age, most likely only because I was blessed with looks and a naturally very charismatic personality. Plus of course a ton of developmental and spiritual work. Lots of people reading this, should not be modeling after this. You should exhaust your ego desires. Be the devil as much as you need to be, and don't condemn it, otherwise you will turn into an even bigger devil: spiritual devil!

If you have trauma(s), work with a therapist On top of that, work seriously and passionately towards a life you love. For example, your life purpose, finances, health, hobbies, passions, art, socializing etc. And finally, everything Leo teaches which is the whole domain of metaphysics and spirituality.

And this is an unconscious behaviour in the sense that you are intentionally playing the mysterious archetype in order to manipualte her fantasies to go wild.

@Valach Leo has made great episodes on this. But as a practical pointer, truly it comes down to finding your true values and living in alignment with them. If pursuing sex is not your top value, stop doing it.

@Natasha Tori Maru I see, you make a good point in how some people type INFJ not because they truly are but because of other reasons, especially trauma. I can see how they are linked. And I can see her being an healthy INFJ too. Can @Emerald confirm? 😊

@Natasha Tori Maru I see! Yeah I have a couple fairly close INFJ friends and they are in many ways complete opposite to me, it’s mind buggling. But these people did have a tough childhood that they haven’t processed. I am yet to bump into a healthy INFJ.