Miguel1

You are correct. And don’t get me wrong, I have been in 4 long term, serious relationships in my short life. Mostly with girls that were not very psychologically and mentally developed (relatively speaking of course), despite being physically attractive. I always ended up outgrowing them and feeling unsatisfied in the relationship at the end, and then having to end the relationships. I rather be alone if I cant find a proper high quality in my life. This way I don’t waste so much unnecessary time and energy on things that are not worth it for me, not at this point of my life anymore. But not everyone should model me. I have exhausted the whole dating and sex game extensively. I no longer crave quantity. Quality is where its all for me now.

This. For me especially, I have extremely high standards. Also, with the raise of unhealthy female's movement and other stuff, women are pushing men away and are less willing to let a man have a place in their life, and to provide proper containment for them. Obviously not talking about all women. Teal made a video talking about this 6 years ago, and I feel like the situation has gotten worse and worse every year.

I honestly don't see the value in comments like this. What are you trying to accomplish? For example, you could point out the obvious way she is biased? Would that be more constructive to the conversation? Hmm?

We have to definite what dating means. From my experience, if I were to pick random 100 girls from the street that is attractive and in the age range 20-30, I would not make at least 80% of them my wife. That's for certain. I would imagine in a place like the US, it would be worse. Light dating where there's not much commitment, AKA, FWB? Sure I would have that with more women. That being said, I dont see the point of FWBs in my life right now, would be a waste of energy and time. Finally, dont take titles that are designed to play there algorithm's game too seriously. The point is that a lot of girls is not worth the hassle, depending on where you are coming from. If you are a newbie who haven't gotten much of that out of your system? Go for it!

Where the hell you got complaining from? I am just providing consciousness to the situation, which is the foundation of our work here. Becoming more conscious of what is.

If you want to constructively criticize, at least provide proper arguments. I provided proper information spreading awareness and legit practical tips, and you had nothing to say about anything.

I'm not the best to answer this as I don't find much joy to engage in dating anymore. You can call it outgrowing it. But from the little I do do dating, it is an unconscious cesspool. I truly understand now what Leo means when he said some year ago that "most people are too immature to build proper healthy relationships". I totally understand that now. I also understand how bad and unconscious my behavior was in my peak game years. I was a complete devil, and I was downplaying it for years afterwards. Only in the past 1-2 years have I truly understood how toxic and manipulative I have been. It is extremely hard to have ton of sex with new girls as a normie, if you deeply care about truth and are committed to behave accordingly. Nowadays I try as much as possible to find more mature and more classy women with good values, so I niche down hard. I mostly spend time in places where these people hang out. I avoid clubs and dating apps like I’m allergic to them. I have been spending more time in fine bars, rather than loud obnoxious clubs. Unfortunately it is freezing cold winter here at the moment so that discourages me to cold approach even more. When the warmer seasons arrive, I will approach girls more in parks, hiking, outdoor places and events. It makes sense that the more quality girls dont enjoy time in loud obnoxious clubs nearly as much as more immature girls. Did this give you an idea? I am not sure what specifically you want to know and so I am not sure if I answered your question at all. I guess in a nutshell: as I keep growing exponentially away from the gravitational pull of society, and the dating world seems to be getting more unconscious, finding a proper high quality partner becomes a much harder quest. Less and less worth the hassle. Thank you for the question tho. Always nice to get an opportunity to articulate my thoughts.

@Kid A Apply Leo's insight: Skip the first 20% of the video, watch in 1.5X speed and if you find it valuable, you can go back and watch it from the start. Give it a chance, I don't share just anything here.

That's why you create the thread to provide value in the opener to the community and trigger conversation, and then.. Disappear!

I am enjoying the surprisingly high integrity of this woman. How to find and screen for the very few high quality partner that is still left: Part 1 Part 2

Good question. Solid and stable career that generates great income, and on top of that I find a really great woman to be my life partner and a great mother to my child(ren) (this is the more tricky one).

https://youtu.be/D0BiBx2pcSo?si=CTP88Bf6Z5eLkSNY

As I am right now, and I’m the same age as you, children would be a huge distraction. We will see again in 3-5+ years but very possible I will not have children, and focus all my resources on my spiritual growth and life purpose.

Conformity!

Bro is about to come out with a Tinder Course

Throwing out a break up card like that is the beginning of an end. It destroys trust and you wont be able to feel fully safe ever anymore. He should have discussed the issues with you properly first. Break up card is never meant to be used. If it is used, it is basically over.

Top tier as in looks. Like the 9s and 10s.

@aurum I forgot to mention something. Demi sexuality and especially, Sapio sexuality. If a girl is intelligent, it turns me the hell on.

You will learn that on this forum, never ever hit submit before you have copied your writing

Correct. What society shows us about relationship is absolutely terrible. Most of us model after and unconsciously pick up patterns from our parents’ relationship as well, and I cant say too many relationship are doing good.

@Oppositionless You are correct that a ton of relationships are built in workplace. But that is still different to a meditation or healing center where people are being vulnerable. I am not gonna go to one of these places just to find a partner. And I would not be going to these places for their exclusive purposes, as those I can do at home. Surely there are attractive people who are mature but they are virtually non-existant. That’s how rare they are. Finally, keep in mind its relative. What you consider attractive might not be for me, as I am used to top tier girls from my years in game. Maturity is also relative.

@aurum Again, I am not looking for a philosopher-partner. But just a partner to have some meaningful conversations with here and there. I would not date a stage blue girl, no matter how much polarity there is and how feminine she is — simply because there isn’t much interesting to discuss with. We don’t see eye to eye when it comes to values either. I think it is key that at least some of the core values align. You mentioned Spiral Dynamics Green when you talked about your potential partner. That is values.

Wow, what a read! Even tho I have not directly experienced these states, it is still a powerful and beautiful expression for me, as it gets me looking forward to it and to imagine how beautiful it will be. Cheers!

@aurum Like I said, she doesn’t have to be a Tier 2 sage. My mind is very active and I need to engage it relatively often. Spending time being present with your intimate partner? Sure, of course. But it also gets boring after a while. And a life partner is one that you spend a decent amount of time with. I am not wired to sit still and be present all the time. I need to be proactively working on a bigger vision. And to daydream and think big. People are wired differently, and that’s okay. Finally, I don’t think you answered the part of our question where we asked: what values are you looking for in a partner?

This is a very key topic in our work. I am surprised Leo hasn’t made a video about it yet.