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I knew Teal would divide opinions here, hence I started the thread, but honestly I had no idea she would divide the opinions this badly. Keep going. Let us try to find some clarity on both ends.

@AION Bruh. Perhaps put all that under a link.

Good self-awareness.

Yes.

Wow, I did not know that. That’s quite the twist. That being said, hopefully it leads to Healthy Game becoming the thing in the near future.

This is exactly why Teal’s work is so important.

As men are right now, that might be the most important conversation for humanity

Legit post, thanks for sharing. Great point from Leo on extroverts enjoying indirect more, and that it being more natural for them. And yes, indirect is way harder to pull of properly, without falling into the friendzone. That being said, there is also semi direct. And especially in day game, pulling off a proper semi direct is extremely powerful, and efficient.

Certainly our relationship with technology and AI is going to determine whether we will evolve with them or they will ruin us. But where did you hear this?

We have taken such a beautiful topic and turned it into hell here on the forum.

You don’t force it. Let them grow at their own pace, accept and love them for that.

Obviously this place has people more agreeing with Leo than disagreeing. They literally came here from loving his top of funnel content.

Then you should not be making a judgement on somebody’s work, if you don’t even bother to study their most important work.

@Ishanga Go watch some of Teal’s videos on masculine containment and how unsafe women feel in the world. Basically it’s constant. You cannot understand this as a man. Especially if you don’t have the desire to understand.

This is literally the place where the followers disagree with the leader the most. I have not seen another one like this.

Yes, Teal’s work focuses not only on healing the inner child, the self, the female and the male but more importantly, the relationship between all. For men, it is to learn how to provide containment and safety, and for women to make men feel valued and appreciated for what they bring.

Exactly. That’s why I’ve learned to appreciate her work ever so deeper. She goes to the very roots like nobody else, and does so very intelligently. And like I said (again in my opener), Leo is too head focused. She is more heart focused. These two needs to be integrated. Looks like Leo is aware of this, which is not of course, surprising.

like I said in my opener, a lot of men here has a masculine shadow. And this thread proves the point. I knew Leo would be able to see things through a more objective lense about Teal. The things he points out are the same stuff I feel about Teal. Which makes it easier for me to respond to ya’lls answers. It is really hard to get people to see things when they don’t have the psyche to see things. ”You don’t believe what you see — you see what your unconsciousness sees”

This episode got me to realize that I have always hated conforming. Ever since a kid, and especially teen, I always heavily avoided going to places where I had to conform, like family gatherings (in Asian culture, family gathering is with all the aunts, uncles and cousins too). The more conformity was involved, the more repulsed I felt by it. I never knew what it was intellectually but intuitively I always felt it. I teared up once or twice for being able to finally understand what I went through in my youth, while listening to the episode.

Yup, most people are so unconscious that they live in reptilian brain. In order to get that brain to focus on and respect you, you gotta behave in its language: unconsciousness.

Story of my life. I wish someone would have warned me properly about how much suffering real spiritual work causes before I started the journey. The opposite was sold actually. Either ways I would have probably done this work anyways but just having proper expectations would have made this journey much more smoother.

Haha. Even I am constantly surprised despite being much less developed than Leo. Just imagine how disappointed he is.

Psychological / ego survival for sure. The fact of the matter is a stage yellow person is less selfish than a stage red. But he is nowhere fully selfless.

Thanks for all the input, keep them coming. I will respond here soon, when I have time.

I can understand this, from the perspective of lower consciousness attraction. But at a higher level, I am not looking for a girl to just fall in my frame and follow me blindly. This is not very fulfilling, and it is very empty. Girls follow any asshole scum blindly, as long as they are delusionally over-confident, which they are. I need her to have her own sovereignity. I want our top values to match and for us to be compatible, and that means that she would be more mature and higher conscious. @Natasha Tori Maru is correct here. I don’t think you should step out at all. Frankly, I want to push this conversation. Yes, most men here just need the basics handled and so pickup advices, and getting her to fall in your frame etc. are important - but then there are a few of us here who has lived through the damn sex addiction phase, and actually are looking for something more conscious and fulfilling. Once in a while there is a member bringing this topic up and it gets shot down by the gravity of the forum’s dating maturity level. As an extrovert who thrives around people and crave deep social intimacy, having only unconscious animals around me is truly hell. It would be so much easier to be deep into consciousness work and to be an introvert. I am constantly struggling with the fact that I don’t have conscious and mature people around me, except people in this forum. But it will never be the same.