Miguel1

Omg guys. She wants to have a moment with her love, sharing an ice cream. What in the world is so hard to understand their disappointment? It’s like I hype you to go watch your favourite sports team’s match, then when we arrive, I’m like: ”Nahh, actuallt I don’t want to watch, but I’ll be here close to you, focused on my phone”.

Oh brother, there is no fucking way I can ever be satisfied with some random hook up sex with a club girl, when I have experienced the deepest, most sacred love-making. Around the age 25. This was when I was done with my ”peak” pickup year, having sex with so many girls I lost count halfway into the year. At this age, I first experienced a smaller form of true safe intimacy and love-making. After that, there was no going back to pure pick up artristy just to maximize the quantity of sex. If I didn’t get lucky and bump into some really beautiful souls, I might still be chasing sex mindlessly. It’s hard to explain true intimacy (body, mind, soul) to someone, when they haven’t experienced it. I see that issue on this forum often. Your text was well said.

Hey everyone, I haven’t been very active here lately because I’ve been quite busy with life. I have been doing much more socializing than I had planned for this summer. I did eventually reach a point now, where I am quite burned off from all the social games, superficiality, fakery and manipulations. And so, I was inspired to create this thread to open a space for you to reflect: ”Am I aligned with what I am doing in life right now?” ”Is this what I want?” ”Is this headed to where I want my life to go?” - - - - - How are you doing? Personally, as much as I want intimacy with another human being, the games that I have to play to get it.. the juice is not necessarily worth the squeeze at this point in my life anymore. And so, this saddens me quite deeply. Being alone is very hard as a natural extrovert. Any extroverts here that struggles with this? I wish I was able to be fully content being alone for the rest of my life. Damn, it’s hard.

You lost me brother. How does looking her deep in the eye and talking about building castles have anything to do with intellectual intimacy? It’s the opposite. It would be fatansy intimacy, which is what I am ”forced” to do with most girls.

Sorry but this is one of the most autistic questions I’ve seen in a long time

Say, if you had a talk with God and you came to the conclusion that it’s your mission to help humanity become more mature, conscious, and loving. How would you go about it based on your skills and interest? Could be anything. It could be via music and art for example. For me, it is most likely the combination of dance therapy (somatic), dance art (to inspire), teaching, coaching and faciliating.

No. Cold approaching is a lot of fun, and should be done from that mental space. Cold calling is just repetitive and boring. B2B cold calling is somewhat more enjoyable.

I don’t think you are actually debating deep philosophical and existential topics with girls brother.

Correct!

I agree there are a lot of interesting views and perspectives from Orion. But something feels off about him at the same time.

@UnbornTao I am usually quite a patient and compassionate guy but you are actually starting to piss me off now. Since you never bring any proper information and in a constructive and friendly manner on the table, and on the other hand, just post these empty passive-aggressive bullshit, I am losing my patient with you. I already asked you once to stop contributing here. This will be my second time. If there is a third time, we will involve other moderators and possibly Leo in this. Nicely said: if you have nothing to add, leave me the fuck alone. Thank you.

Just practice 1 week of being fully honest and say what you actually mean with the people in your social circle. Warning: don't do this if you don't want to lose your circle.

Well said. I talked to her literally like we were in fantasy land. I took her to watch the ocean, we drank wine, and I told her that I am going to build us a castle, she makes it a home for us, and I will bring us food and protect us from outside danger. Then we played miniclip / browser games online. This was the most simple girl I have ever dated. But there is no way I could build a serious relationship and life with her, as her ability to think was almost 0.

This is why I am sick of pick up based dating and sex. It's performance based. I push buttons to get reactions. There is no real intimacy, connection, passion, safety with the other person. There is no truth in it! There is no trust and surrender. There is no real caring.

Yes, I am aware. Oftentimes my presence and eye contact can be very intense, when I am in the mood to see if there's something real inside. I've lost many girls because of this. AI: "Looking for Something Real: ENFJs have a strong, empathetic moral compass driven by their Feeling side. When you feel like you "judge a lot and look for something real," this is likely your Fe working with your Introverted Intuition (Ni). This combination creates an intense desire to see past superficial things and get to the truth of people, emotions, and situations."

There is real, genuine spirituality tho. And then there is spiritual conformity, which is most of spirituality. It's to enhance survival.

In my youth, when I was still spiritually very naive, and spirituality wasn’t as mainstream as it is now, whenever I bumped into a girl into ”spirituality”, I would immediately jump with excitement. Nowadays I am skeptical, and most of the time, it turns out to be shallow / fake spirituality.

Results in cold approaching is mostly inner game. If traumas run you deeply, it is impossible to behave confidently and congruently. At the same time, smaller form of twisted trauma can get you crazy results, if it makes you deeply manipulative and desire validation and success to overcompensate. I was this, and I got way more results then than I do now. And on top of everything, if you use spirituality to feed your devilry.. then you are unstoppable.

Perhaps I need to re-evaluate my stand on Dr. Ana.

@bazera I am wired to be in the middle of hundreds, thousands and perhaps millions of people. Leading them, affecting them directly, impacting them positively. Watching in real time as I see people’s faces filled up with smiles, and hearts filled with love. And their bodies relax into divinity. I don’t want to say this because I come accross arrogant and superior but honestly, I do deep down feel like I was born a couple hundreds years too early. And I also do tear up from that existential pain fairly often. I even think of suicide sometimes. (Don’t worry, it’s healthy for all of us to think of it sometimes). I would be so happy living in the year 2200, assuming humanity keeps evolving. Just the fact that people would be dancing, and singing on the streets (not performing, not trying to survive, but to authentically share beauty and love) would already make it much more joyful. It’s hard to live in a world where selfishness runs rampant, while you yourself highly value selflessness and try your best to improve at it everyday. In our modern times, we have become so individualistically selfish, that everyone is suffering at a collective level. It’s especially hard when you have so much to give, but people think it’s weird or even threatening, because they cannot receive so much beauty and light. - - - - - Thanks for discussing with me tho, brother. And everyone else too. This is the type of conversation that fills my soul. With normies, I would perhaps discuss 5% of the depth we discussed here, and we could go way deeper! They (my friends and family) don’t even understand what it means when I say that I don’t find anyone to connect deeply with, and that it pains me. They literally think on the level of: ”ohhh you will find once you bump into someone who is also into dancing and doing gymnastic, commercial yoga!” I don’t think I will be finding the people I am looking for, anytime soon. They are extremely rare. Even at the peak of Leo’s popularity, we only got a small handful of people gathered here, in all of the international internet. And many of them are trolls. - - - - - I am reminded of a girl I recently dated. In a way, I prefer a complete airhaid to a ”normal intelligent” person. I recently dated a 23 year old girl, whose mental age got stuck at very low for some reason. The level of our discussion was literally: ”what is your favourite public transportation bus?” Here in Helsinki, we have one of the best public transportations, so most people use it as their main way of transportation. I felt bad for her, as I can see that her lack of maturity and intelligence will cause so many issues and so much pain for her, but while hanging out with her, it was almost like meditation. Zero depth was talked. Literally zero. Just being present. With most girls, I don’t talk depth either most of the time, but at least sometimes conversations get a bit deeper. But with this girl, it was baby talk for 100% of the time, all the time, and she was so happy! So either it is really intelligent and conscious girls, or complete 100% airheads, that are playful, feminine, humble and know their place! There are many idiots out there, who think they are wise!

@bazera Except when your brain is wired for human connection and intimacy. And wired much harder than your average Joe! I’ve been with shallow spiritual people. In many ways they are more annoying than normies. Because at least normies won’t bait you in spiritual conversations, and you actually know what you get with them.

It’s creepy and not aligned with the highest integrity to go to a place with an agenda of dating them, when people are focused on serious work there. Misalignment in goals, which is the whole reason I am in this place to begin with. Also, somehow I doubt these places actually have beautiful and youthful girls.

You need to date a normie and talk about all sorts of random crap you have no care about, yet have to act like you care. Then you’ll realize what you had

Noooooo don’t go pick up girls in retreats and spiritual workshops. I literally can’t fall in love with a normie. It’s so dry! And I would have to be constantly on my toes so as to not say, imply or express something too radical. A normie wouldnt feel very loved in a relationship with me, simply because I am not so enthuastic about most things they are.

What exactly are you curious about?