Miguel1
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@LordFall Jesus. In what world do you live, where you go from absolute zero experience with girls to hosting parties for hundreds of girls just like that?
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@Mellowmarsh You are getting unnecessarily philosophical.
It comes down to this: if you don’t have the right genes, you wouldn’t be a human being. And if you don’t have the right genes, you will never be nearly as conscious as Peter, no matter how much you try.
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@Mellowmarsh the potential of consciousness work is infinitely higher than the potential of physical work.
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@Mellowmarsh I can train as hard or even harder using the same tools Lionel Messi used, and will never come close to as good as he was in his peak.
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As for AION, I do think there is a misunderstanding going on here between him and others, to a degree at least. The rest seems to be clear bias from him.
And as he says, he should work on his emotional and social intelligence so that he doesn’t come across disrespectful in his message.
This is something all of us into truth has to come to eventually, and it is called maturity. Leo has had many episodes of this. The last big one I think was a couple of years ago.
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3 hours ago, BlessedLion said:Jokes aside, regarding the scandenavian/Euro women, i've been noticing on netflix tons of these movies and shows (Cocks (dutch), Alpha Males (spain), The year i started masturbating (sweden), Dudes (germany) that are just making an absolute mockery of men and masculinity and framing men as completely useless and clownlike with the equality of genders today. The women make more money men, the men have trouble making decisions and have serious insecurity around their masculinity. I think it points to a larger pattern and the changing times. I just find it really interesting watching these European shows and movies and how brutally they portray men as these fumbling idiots who are basically rendered useless.
One of the main reason I got so much results with women, as I am a born natural leader.
I always hated conformity and group-think.
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@Mellowmarsh The point is that Peter is a genetic freak, which most people are not.
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It is true that most people are stuck in survival and doesn’t have the capacity and / or interest to actualize themselves and explore consciousness deeply.
Most people are too immature to even have a basic thing like a healthy relationship.
To truly have a sustainable, compatible relationship based on honesty, authenticity and truth, is very rare.
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@Joseph Maynor @Inliytened1 it makes sense.
I was with this partner for 5 years. It was the most intimate and intense relationship I’ve had, by far.
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6 minutes ago, OBEler said:@Miguel1 it seems you are neurodivers and hate masking. It's a common problem.
The funny thing is my personality type is ENFJ, which is the biggest social chameleon there is. My ennegram is 8w3 tho, and from there I get the cut through bullshit side.
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The suffering for me has also neutralized a lot compared to 10 months ago when I broke up.
But I would have thought it would have passed by now as I am quite happy single.
It must be still here for the reasons I mentioned above.
I was able to express myself much better in my relationship because she accepted me and didn’t judge me, and we had a special bond. Now I have to play the social games way more, but I hate that too and need to really stop it. But then there is not much intimacy at all in my life anymore, however shallow.
There is clearly an internal, existential conflict within me.
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4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:Breakup pain is natural. You have to processs that loss, not zero it out.
This is why I dislike the whole notion of "ending suffering".
You can't just end suffering you gotta live through it.
Yeah, it’s a chemical inbalance in our brain. Need to process it and give it time for our brain to find balance and harmony again.
Also why PUA is toxic in this regard. Pick up would say for you to numb it and go fuck 10 hotter girls to move on.
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2 minutes ago, OBEler said:For me its also existential hopelessness but my breakup is the reason for that feeling. Do you have a specific reason why you feel that deep? Is ist not having a good job or living in a place you dont like and want to move out but cant?
When did it start first time.
It started for me from break up too. But it’s been 10 months and I feel like I have moved on from it quite well. Maybe like now, it has shifted from break up + lack of human intimacy to purely but strongly lack of human intimacy.
I have struggled with being a wage slave and not being able to fully express myself freely forever so I don’t think that’s the reason.
If anything, at least I had quite a deep intimacy on physical, emotional, psychological and intellectual with my ex partner, but now I don’t even have that.
And finally, I feel like on one hand I am so done with repressing my true self and just want to fully express myself via my art and making a proper career for myself - but at the same time I am aware that it will make it even Harder for me to get the intimacy I crave, as it is too threatening for normies.
The caveat is that I am much more likely to find the person I truly aligned with and can have authentic intimacy with, it I fully express myself publicly. I will lose 99% of people in my life, but I will open the doors for the right people to enter my life.
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Overall, I think for me it comes down to lack of proper intimacy (I don’t count random sex with random people intimacy), and the lack of ability to freely express myself (with the fear of its consequences). Same reason I cant be on this forum with my real name.
But this all starts from the foundation that human consciousness is still so damn low. In many ways, we are still living deeply in the dark ages.
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6 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:Waking from a nap also sometimes.
For me, if it’s a 15-20 min nap, no problems.
But if it’s like 1-2h+ nap, then it hits
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9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:Don't try to use pickup lines on them. Just be curious about them, ask questions, and grab a number at the end.
I like this very much. Not only the whole mindset is healthier than pick up lines, it is also beginner friendly approach, and safer approach in a classroom.
Pickup requires a hardcore mindset (a lot of times to the point of toxicity), and an environment where you can lose face and have no consequences.
Finally, to the OP, your first attempts will never be perfect. Maybe you will get lucky and it will work out, but most likely not - so don’t put too much pressure on yourself.
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Very interesting you both mention suffering right after waking up. What the hell! I suffer from the same.
For me, it doesn’t matter if it is morning or middle of the day. If I wake up from a long nap in the evening, the same flood of suffering is there.
What is the quality of your guys’ suffering?
For me, it is this existential hopelessness. It’s like the sleep is so peaceful, and I fall asleep fast, and get into deep sleep - but once I wake up, the whole unconsciousness, selfishness and survival of our human collectiveness hits me all at once.
Like Natasha, it passes once I start my day.
And this literally happens probably 9 out of 10 times I wake up. So weird. I can go to sleep at night fully at peace, but always wake up to some sort emotional wave of existential terror / crisis / hopelessness.
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I am proud of how far we have come as a community. In the past, a conversation like this would have spiraled down to the seventh hell.
There’s no way this would have borne fruit.
Thanks everyone for growing together, and clearing this place up to be this clean.
It will never be 100% clean but this is very good.
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5 hours ago, BlessedLion said:It's really wild. I've noticed this too, and had to miss out on a lot of potential sex and intimacy because i refuse to treat women poorly, or manipulate, or play games. I can't be anything but authentic and i'm proud of who i've built.
I just can't do it anymore, i've done way too much work on myself and my Heart to just play these games. But, unfortunately it works! It's what actually works! Pretty much every beautiful female friend i know has some recent psycho ex who was verbally and sometimes physically abusive, addicted to drugs, cheating or a total mess and they stuck with them for years through it all. If that's what it takes to get lots of women, count me out.
This is my current stand 100% as well.
I straight up refuse to act lower conscious and gamey, even tho I lose so much sex and intimacy from it.
The good thing is that the sex and intimacy I lose, is fairly superficial, and that I don’t waste my time on it, giving me more opportunities to meet real intimacy, based on honesty and authenticity. It is very rare tho.
But it’s worth it.
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@LordFall Yeah I found it interesting as well.
I agree that Jeffy can be an off putting character, but I feel like he cuts straight to the chase, rather than does 3 hour rambling videos.
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3 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:I appreciate this being raised. Very, very much appreciate it.
Respect to Leo, the mods and all my fellow dudes who treat me as an equal ❤️🔥
It's sort of weird being TOLD how I work. How I am. With little platform to ask me questions about women and how they work. I am often, as a woman, painting as being unconscious to myself 🥹 very odd
It’s the same struggle Emerald and Etheral Cat went through here, and probably many other female members. Also probably the reason they all left.
Back then I was still too biased to see, and also not an active member yet to be commenting.
But now, I rather not see the same mistake being repeated, especially as you are one of the higher quality posters here. It seems Leo has learned his lesson and was able to take the feedback properly based on his responses here.
Much love.
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3 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:100%
I think this sex is possibly one of the most difficult and challenging topics to approach earnestly.
But yeah this is also why I take users in good faith, unless there is a real systemic repeated pattern of uncharitable dialogue.
That makes sense. I think there is a tendency to downplay our self-deceptions and biases towards sex because it is ”such a low function” compared to the serious work - but that’s precisely the danger.
Thank you for your patience and compassion.
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@Natasha Tori Maru Yes, hence I brought this up to give it integrity.
If this community wasn’t about truth, then I wouldn’t care as it would be very male biased. But I hold us to a higher standard, because truth is one of our top values here.
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9 minutes ago, Alexop said:Good one. I somehow get it but it still is a problem. When he comes with that claim, he might have a very nuanced take on it. But It is a problem because when another guy who trusts him sees that short comment, he will take it as it is, black and white, without the hidden nuances. And he will parrot it further ideologically, dealing damage.
Yes, as you said, Leo throws a lot of these short comments confidently that comes across as ”it’s simple as this, period” -feeling - especially in the ’what attracts women’ space.
Which is understandable, when the women here feel like they are being devalued.
It’s almost like someone said that Leo has gone mad very confidently. Has he? Yes he has by any normal mind’s standard.
But that's just the half truth. By the standards of what we do here, he has turned sane! More conscious.
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The more unconscious, self-biased, selfish, self-deceived, the more immature one is.
The more someone matures, the more they become aware of their own inner lies that they tell themselves, face it, and stop doing it.
Basically integrity is what it comes down to. The more integrous a mind is, the more mature it is.
How honest are you with yourself, and others? How much does your actions cause pain to others? How much have you faced your inner demons and shadows, and integrated them?
Genuine empathy (not people pleasing) is also a very strong sign of maturity. The more empathy you have developed, the more mature you are. The more you are able to see the big picture and see that we are all just part of one, the more mature your mind is.