Miguel1

Moderator
 View profile  See their activity

  • Content count

    1,561

  • Joined

  • Last visited

Posts posted by Miguel1

  1. Posted

    11 hours ago, Miguel1 said:

    I might miss some context with Valach and LordFall, but I don’t see an issue with girls you don’t find attractive to practice your social skills, as long as you don’t lead them on.

    There is no need to hurt anyone while practicing your skills. You can always make friends with them. And if you wanna practice your attraction generating skills with not attractive girls, then just come up with an excuse later that doesnt hurt them:

    ”I really enjoyed your company but I want to be honest with you, upon thinking further, right now I am seeing a girl with whom things are getting a bit too serious for me to see other girls and feel good about myself”.

    You are never going to be perfectly 100% ethical and selfless in this world. Just you existing will cause other forms to disappear.

    @Valach

    Brother, I am done with this discussion. If we don’t agree after all this, then there is no point continuing. It’s ok. We are just going in circles.

  2. Posted

    1 hour ago, Valach said:

    Sure. But you know there is some context difference between this. You asking for time, even if not honestly, will not trigger some emotional reaction from the other side unlike with flirting etc. It is basic empathy, really. 

    It is just some harmless flirtin. It happens all the time. You are making too big of a deal out of it.

    Getting a girl’s number doesn’t mean anything, especially if the guy is new to game, he most likely won’t be getting any solid numbers anyway.

  4. Posted

    4 minutes ago, WonderSeeker said:

    Integrity.

    It's such a beautiful practice. It's the highest form of taking care of reality. Making sure things are as they should be.

    But this 'should be' is devoid of ego. Which is hard in practice. Still worth it.

    Yes, integrity is mostly directly against human selfishess and ego that practicing integrity gets you into so much trouble, it’s hard.

    Despite that, that’s what’s aligned with the highest Truth, which is truly the highest value in existence.

  7. Posted

    20 minutes ago, Zenterus said:

    Full honesty though, she was so pretty and I was on like 14 days of nofap so I wasn't thinking very clearly, which is still not a valid excuse my recklessly bonding with her further.

    One of the main problems of nofap lol.

    As you said, let this be a big lesson. Screen harder brother. I could fill my week in a way that I have a date for every day but it’s a huge waste of time if I don’t see any future with them.

    There are good women out there, just very rare, and mostly in relationships already.

    Funny how this turned around, and now I’m giving you the same advice you gave me xD

  8. Posted · Edited by Miguel1

    39 minutes ago, Valach said:

    Then get into situation that you meet sufficient amount of attractive (for you) woman. Like you don't need to go around approaching 20 woman if you do not like 18 of them. Just approach the two you like. It's simple.

    Have you heard of anxiety?

    Even someone who hasn’t dealt with anxiety in years, I can still remember how bad it is.

  10. Posted

    24 minutes ago, Valach said:

    Of course you can't be purely good in this world. But you can do as much as you can to prevent it. Maybe starting with this approach right here. Woman are not objects to practice our social/seduction skills on them. Approach only if you really want to meet her. Of course, no problem just generally socializing with woman you are not attracted to, but be mindful of your intention and the way your actions impact others.

    This is ideal. But you don’t understand how bad it is for some guys starting out. Have empathy for them, at least they are trying.

    For guys that are struggling heavily, it can be impossible to practice on girls they find attractive as first step. Later on, of course they should do that.

    I see not much harm created if you practice approaching and initial stage of conversation with a non attractive girl, and even taking their phone number. If you take them on multiple dates, then there’s too much harm, yes.

  13. Posted

    I might miss some context with Valach and LordFall, but I don’t see an issue with girls you don’t find attractive to practice your social skills, as long as you don’t lead them on.

    There is no need to hurt anyone while practicing your skills. You can always make friends with them. And if you wanna practice your attraction generating skills with not attractive girls, then just come up with an excuse later that doesnt hurt them:

    ”I really enjoyed your company but I want to be honest with you, upon thinking further, right now I am seeing a girl with whom things are getting a bit too serious for me to see other girls and feel good about myself”.

    You are never going to be perfectly 100% ethical and selfless in this world. Just you existing will cause other forms to disappear.

  15. Posted · Edited by Miguel1

    30 minutes ago, PsychedelicEagle said:

    People like this are the reason why you usually want to deliberately space out dates, minimize contact on the phone, so you create the time and circumstances for her worst side to surface — catching it early on before emotional investment.

    These strategies are all laid out in "How to be a 3% man" from Corey Wayne.

    I think there was some clear and strong red flags in Zenterus’ story early on. For some reason he didn’t take them seriously enough to call it quits.

    It could have been something human like deep empathy, or perhaps as you said, emotional investment.

    Personally I would have planned and prepared for my exit, the moment I found out she has a court case due to not paying what she owes and being disowned by her parents.

    And I would have probablly found these out earlier already, as I screen quite hard nowadays in the beginning. 

  16. Posted · Edited by Miguel1

    Thanks for sharing and being vulnerable with us brother. We are here for you.

    I just hope she doesn’t falsely accuse you of rape etc. That can really fuck your life up real good.

    - - - - -

    I avoid these crazy girls by screening them quite hard in the beginning. I have developed a very strong sense for detecting bullshit, not only by being with so many girls, but more importantly, by doing this work we do here on actualized seriously.

    I have ”lost” a ton of girls simply because my screening mechanism is so strong. I notice my eye contact can be very intense and suspicious sometimes. This is not really losing them though, more like saving myself from a ton of trouble, wasted time and energy.

    I also tend to go for the more naturally beautiful neighbour girl, than the hottest types. I find them to be way less of a headache, and way more enjoyable company, in general.

    - - - - -

    You make a lot of great points, and communicate well, despite your current mental state. I commend you for that.

    As there is toxic masculinity, there is also toxic femininity, which I believe is what you are talking about in your point about femininity.

    My question for you tho:

    Could you have find out about her crazy life earlier, and ditch her before things got so bad?

    For example, the moment you found out that her parents disowned her and so on?

    But man, what a story to completely fuck both of us up, since we are in a very similar position with these girls and dating.

    I crave intimacy with girls, yet I have to drop them like flies all the time because of some weird shit that almost every girl seems to have. Even forgetting higher connection to Spirituality and Truth, most young attractive girls seem to miss one or more of the basic stuff like communication skills, empathy, or basic level integrity and emotional intelligence, doesn’t know herself and her values — and most importantly, lacks emotional regulation skills, and haven’t healed her deepest traumas.

  21. Posted · Edited by Miguel1

    12 minutes ago, integral said:

    This is solid advice.

    I know a few women who are extremely attractive and yet they weren't able to have good sex or even an orgasm until their late 30s because their partners were not able to navigate and connect with them the way they needed to as this video explains very clearly.

    Its a significant learning curve reaching a point were you can help people through their sexual trauma as a man. And based on all the issues with divorce rates and everything, I assume that vast majority of people are nowhere near this level. 

    Oh and this girl is off the physical spectral attractive🔥 Yet still has insecurities with sex because of an operating system of people pleasing trauma

    Oh brother, there is no fucking way I can ever be satisfied with some random hook up sex with a club girl, when I have experienced the deepest, most sacred love-making.

    Around the age 25. This was when I was done with my ”peak” pickup year, having sex with so many girls I lost count halfway into the year. At this age, I first experienced a smaller form of true safe intimacy and love-making. After that, there was no going back to pure pick up artristy just to maximize the quantity of sex.

    If I didn’t get lucky and bump into some really beautiful souls, I might still be chasing sex mindlessly.

    It’s hard to explain true intimacy (body, mind, soul) to someone, when they haven’t experienced it. I see that issue on this forum often.

    Your text was well said.

  22. Posted

    24 minutes ago, Joshe said:

    When I think of how to do this with a girl, I find it difficult to come up with a way that wouldn’t be considered cringe by most girls. Staring deep into their eyes and talking about building castles and things like this would be really hard to do without coming off as cringe. It’s possible to bring them into your world, but you’re gonna need some tact, which I wouldn’t think of as manipulation or inauthenticity, but more like building a bridge, and the construction starts where they are. For most girls, you can’t just have them stare at a sunset and gaze deep into their eyes and start talking about castles without some serious tact. 

    You lost me brother.

    How does looking her deep in the eye and talking about building castles have anything to do with intellectual intimacy?

    It’s the opposite. It would be fatansy intimacy, which is what I am ”forced” to do with most girls.