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  1. Posted · Edited by Miguel1

    Healthy stage orange sales.

    This is a serious path to break out of proverty, without having to build a whole business and wear all the hats in the beginning.

    Josh Lyons combines self-actualization and spiriuality & inner work with sales. He uses sales to self-actualize, similarly to how Owen Cook uses socializing to self-actualize.

    Obviously within the boundaries of healthy orange. But if you want a real way of making great money, this is one of the best ways without going toxic orange.

    Josh Lyons has low views, due to his mature approach to sales: having an honest, non-scripted, deep dive conversation with the prospect, rather than focusing on handling the objections at the end. The way he sells is like having a hard heart-to-heart talk with a friend & getting them to open up (massive trust) and find alignment with the product, thus there are no objections at the end.

    He uses powerful questions (like in a coaching session) to get the prospect to answer their own objections in the discovery phase (beginning), and so, sell themselves.

    It’s a totally new and fresh way of selling in the social media space, contrary to all the sales gurus out there who promotes high pressure and toxic stuff.

    Obviously, keep in mind that orange is still orange. Sales is still sales. Don’t expect this to be some advance level spirituality and actualizing stuff.

    But if you have unfinished business in orange, Josh’s way of doing sales is as healthy of a sales path as it gets there.

    Oh, and he used to lead Alex Hormozi’s Gym Launch sales team. Alex is a well known business influencer in the space, and I regard him as healthy orange too.

  2. Posted · Edited by Miguel1

    4 hours ago, RendHeaven said:

    Yes piccolo we see the fit

    I had a hippie phase, where I truly believed most people can become so attractive with health protocols, deep inner & spiritual work, exercising and taking good care of their looks - that we could have a giant orgy and free sex everywhere, with everyone due to natural attraction with each other & free love.

    I am not even kidding. It was a wild naive phase in my life.

    What drives me is harmony between people, that’s core to my personality type. In my more immature years, my biggest dream and delusion was to raise humanity’s consciousness level (in my lifetime) to the point we could live and love each other in harmony. Oh boy, the shattering of that dream throughout the years has been brutal.

    Makes me feel like I was born 500 years too early. Hopefully in the future that’s possible.

    It is a beautiful vision.

  3. Posted · Edited by Miguel1

    1 hour ago, Miguel1 said:

    3. Natural strenght of character (I am ENFJ 8w3, which gives a ton of strenght, ambition & seriousness to the otherwise very warm and easy-going ENFJ)

    Probably the most important keyword in this section that I forgot to add is: natural Leadership.

    I have always found it easy to lead. I have always usually been the one leading my social circles & work environments (even when I wasn't in a manager position lol).

    I was also always made the captain in my soccer teams growing up.

    And to this day, I am usually the one leading the football teams & games (hobby, for fun) where we play together with my friends.

    I remember in my early 20s, I was always buzzled as to why it is so hard for other football friends to take the charge, and why do I always have to step in to take the charge? To add to the fuel, Finnish men and people in generally are shy and withdrawn people.

    I am one of those leadership types that don’t mind stepping down to let someone else lead, and oftentimes even prefer to just relax back and enjoy the ride. But I just often find myself in situations where I have to step in, or everything goes to chaos.

    I wonder how much I would like to lead and how much I would like to just relax and enjoy the ride, if the world had way more leadership types?

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    7. Oh, and since there was a thread about this the other day, I am also naturally very high in energy, and healthy.

    To this I have to add natural high libido as hell. To the point where I am seriously considering not being in a monogamous relationship again until I get older and my libido goes down or unless I find a great woman with exceptionally high libido (yay, something about the original conversation of the thread xD).

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    Anyways, sorry for moving the conversation away from the original conversation of the thread.

    Sharing all these was just to confirm the above conversation about naturalness of things to begin with, like strenght of character + share more about me to ya’ll + for me to articulate things for myself.

    Please feel free to move the conversation back to its originality.

  4. Posted · Edited by Leo Gura

    I have only recently in the past couple of years really realized a few natural things about me that I thought were developed from scratch with hard work:

    1. Natural ambition

    2. Natural visionary

    3. Natural strenght of character (I am ENFJ 8w3, which gives a ton of strenght, ambition & seriousness to the otherwise very warm and easy-going ENFJ)

    4. Natural social, people, & communication skills, & charisma and emotional intelligence.

    Looks also mostly due to my genes, rather than ”looksmaxing” & ”everyone can be as good looking if they just want to”

    5. Natural care for Truth & Spirituality

    6. Naturally good with sports, body movements, and rythms like dancing & football (soccer)

    And more..

    7. Oh, and since there was a thread about this the other day, I am also naturally very high in energy, and healthy.

    These are things that were natural to me all along, and hence it was natural for me to care about all of them + put a ton of work into cultivating them even further.

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    18 minutes ago, Daniel Balan said:

    BS spreader Andrew Hubermann who makes billions by selling powdered supplements. How is that thief valuing truth? Just because he is a master at exploiting and deceiving people into buying crap ain't no hallmark of truth!

    He would not be making that money, had he not realized the truth that most people are dumb as hell, and they need to be sold supplements BS, and not God.

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    12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    It's easy to agree with it if one is good-looking.

    The less attractive one is, the harder it is the accept the realities of mating.

    This puts things into perspective for me.

    Easy to not care about the harsh realities of dating, when you are not the one on the suffering end. Rather the opposite.

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    6 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

    It's a very fine line for men. 

    On the one hand, the key to the women is making her feel safe. Which would be the energy you need to project toward her. 

    But she will also need to see a display of strength - that is to say - you are NOT safe... 

    To others. 

    But she remains safe with you 🧩 protecc 

    There's a lot of confusion around this. Lots of men think they need to be assholes to attract women. It's not about that, it's about safety and strength.

    In game, this is called balancing attraction & rapport.

    The asshole idiots are people who went from blue pill extreme to red pill extreme.

    They need to eventually grow up and deal with their inner shit and face reality.

    Asshole behaviour does get them more results that nice-guy behavior tho.

    But the ultimate way is to transcend the two extremes.

  21. Posted · Edited by Miguel1

    9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    I am disappointed that I don't see a genuine desire to understand reality here, but instead the defending of political dogmas.

    This is not in the spirit of our work or values here.

    I've said this many times in the past, but I'm shocked at how much patience you have.

    No wonder you used to still go batshit crazy couple years back xD

    At my level of development, I would also go full-force zen devilry aggro if I was forced to deal with this on daily basis.

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    34 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

    I've been openly flirted with by several very pretty and nice girls, and I've refused them all, even though I'm still a virgin.

    I don't see the point of sleeping around; it seems like a delusion driven by twisted people who own the media, film production companies, etc.

    Becareful of deluding yourself. Lots of girls are flirty in nature, doesn't mean that they will sleep with you after finding out who you truly are deep down.

  25. Posted · Edited by Miguel1

    15 minutes ago, BlessedLion said:

    One of the best pick up routines I’ve ever seen is to act dumb, women love it, if you show you’re intelligent, conscious, and spiritual, ironically many women run away. 

    It's like saying that when you make dumb mindless shit as content, people love it, and when you make intelligent, conscious, and spiritual content, ironically many people run away.

    Of course.

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    Long term, of course she wants a “beta” (I don’t like that word, but maybe more like settled down/lower testosterone/less firey) kind of guy, he is easier to hold down! Hes more domesticated, docile, easy to be around, and wont out grow or out smart her- almost neutered in a certain sense. 
     

    A more short term guy will be someone who excites her, pushes her edge, makes her feel sexually stimulated and a bit dangerous. This will likely be the better sex. But of course, this man is wild, he is untamable, he has 10 other women as options, he is also a threat in a certain sense as he might outgrow her or have more ambition that she can’t keep up with.

    I sometimes wonder if women are actually threatened by certain types of ambitious men and date down to feel safe and secure.

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    So they find more safety in the working man who has conformed more, is settled down, and honestly is less ambitious and more “satisfied” in life 

    What if the man is very ambitious and accomplishes a lot, and is extremely attractive - but actually prefers to have a monogamous partner, over spinning 10 girls?

    Aka, the combination of the two?