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2 hours ago, Zenterus said:But then you watch how he interacts with people and he violates every rule regarding attractive subcommunications. He is very reactive and giggly in set, constantly qualifies himself, he is pushy, needy and very unkempt (at least in a few years ago).
I’m completely with you here.
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3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:Don't say that. I didn't give him props. I merely said he is effective. Which he is. His game is extremely basic and utilitarian. Basically grab girl by the arm and pull her into a bedroom.
Sounds like an effective way to jail in todays day and age.
But sorry if I put words in your mouth, wasn’t the intention
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I never studied John. But from the little I’ve seen from him, I’m surprised Leo gave him so much props.
This guy is a complete loser.
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4 hours ago, integral said:but on a side note both my parents LOVE LEO. hes a boomer magnet, there is so much untapped potential
Well, that’s a first! Imagine being able to discuss Leo’s work with your own two parents! I would feel so loved
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18 hours ago, Leo Gura said:No, this is a mistake. You can't open people's minds like that. They will immediately precieve me as an enemy and close their minds.
I do everything possible not to make their ego feel threatened.
I believe in your first comments on this thread, you let us understand that you are taking a more careful approach, seemingly you learned some lessons from Curt’s Podcast, and want to put those lessons into practice in this upcoming one?
But now you seem to even prefer for them to see you as insane, and to be afraid of you?
As long as you are clear on what you are doing man.
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Easier to understand people, sure. But it turns into a game of acting where I pretend to relate with their worldview.
Otherwise they sense the nonchalantness from me.
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I just read the blogpost and yes, I agree with others here.
Makes one think: what is the point of a normal human being (everyone in the audience) to consume / study this?
Even if they do, they just close off and become defensive, which will definitely not lead anywhere good.
Finally, you can come across very arrogant ’Mr. Above Everyone Else’, which is not good either for the same reasons.
Every year I am more and more convinced this is a work you don’t intentionally go out to spread and teach others. If they want to learn, they come to you.
As you said, this is too hardcore.
I suggest toning the disclaimer down. I understand why you think it is so important, but at the same time, you are setting quite the impossible frame to begin with.
As someone with a personality type where its core thrive is social harmony, and an absolute natural at it, and who has struggled their whole life to spread these more hardcore stuff to others.. you gotta be more subtle with it. If you want others to learn that is, which I assume is your goal, otherwise what’s the point?
It’s a subtle skill to go into someone’s world and jujutsu them to open up to the possibility of something completely outside their paradigm. This is very different to having people intentionally entering your world to learn from you, where you can then be much more direct (Youtube), and even then you have to hold back (Solipsism video).
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49 minutes ago, Rilles said:Swedish Leo.
Viking. Someone needs to ask AI to give those faces a viking hat
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@Leo Gura Who reached out to whom in this endeavor? It would be very interesting to hear that they reached out to you.
@Natasha Tori Maru Great wisdom from you on this thread.
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@Alexop You said it brother.
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1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:But women seek out casual sex too. They just hide it to not appear slutty.
Women also hurt men.
Selfishness hurts others.
You are correct. Women are also many times horny and need it satisfied, even tho they are not in a place to look for a deeper relationship.
That being said, I might be looking at this through the lenses of a being a bigger person myself. My intuition says that men have a bigger responsibility overall in leading our society, and especially in this context, as we use women for sex far more than the other way around.
Men are the leaders. We should be leading our females and humanity to a better place.
But this is all from an idealistic place. The reality is that most people are selfish and unconscious as fuck, and incapable of leading anyone anywhere good.
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I used to have ton of FWBs and casual relationships. Mostly to feed my ego. Come to think of it, I had a huge hippie free love phase.
Now the concept has become so foreign to me. Treating a person as just a sexual release use, wow.
If I don’t like the person enough to treat them with intimacy and care, then I’ll just find one that I like enough.
I wonder how much damage we cause the women by leading them into casual relationships.
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I don’t think this thread is going anywhere good.
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1 hour ago, Joshe said:I'm driven toward functional coherence and I update my models/beliefs immediately as new evidence crosses my credibility thresholds - regardless of the costs. But I never felt a "passion" or "love" for truth. Truth only matters because non-truth breaks functionality.
Are you an ENFJ lol. Some years ago I had a deep realization, that I might have been so deep into spirituality and into spreading it from so early on, because I wanted to spread social harmony, as that is the main drive for my type. And spirituality at its highest and most ideal place, is the ultimate Social Harmony.
But as years go by, and I still thrive to go deeper in Truth seeking, despite it directly affecting my mission for social harmony negatively — since most peole are too unconscious to be taking in real Truth and Spiritiuality, and in fact, despises it.
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29 minutes ago, integral said:Dude i know, but do you feel your feet? lmao
Yes, of course. My feet are one of the core to my dancing. It’s called footwork in the scene.
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19 hours ago, integral said:Are gymnasts and athletes conscious of there entire body at the same time?
As a dancer of 20 years and incredible control of their body, I’m reading this thread like:
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@Spiritual Warrior Great share. Glad to have another dancer here as well.
How old are you, since you still plan on competing?
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1 hour ago, Rafael Thundercat said:So,if God Realization is a very unappealilng endevour and most part of humanity use their lifes and resources for survival, what chances there is for a more evolved humanity?
If humanity didn’t evolve, we would still be throwing spears at each other. The reality is that humans today show much higher degree of empathy than thousands of years ago.
We will evolve, it just takes enormous amount of time, which is why it is so valuable. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.
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Thank you. Much love to you brother ❤️
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This is extremely interesting.
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2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:Then he should put it in his book if he is a teacher.
But then he wouldnt be so popular anymore
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Just now, Oppositionless said:This next year I'm going to prioritize my health over all. I've decided to give up the alpha ideal , cancel my gym membership and instead spend my money on physical activity I actually enjoy (yoga classes).
Very good!
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47 minutes ago, Oppositionless said:@Miguel1 Ive deepened my realization of God more this year more then any other but in the human domain I still have so much self hatred . It's a strange place to be.
I know right? This is why you ought to be very careful of spiritual teachers, and people in general who have reached awakenings but haven’t done the human work.
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Beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
I might write my own later, altho I kinda already did in the thread I started the other day.
There is definitely a big hole in the market for Healthy Pickup. Even in a community like this, you see it lacking. When I first joined this community, I expected there to be mostly people who had mastered pickup, transformed it into a healthy version, and finally even transcended it. I was shocked to find out the truth.
That being said, how many really resonate with a healthy version of pickup, since as you said: people who get into it tend to be more mentally broken people. Normal, healthy men look for dating oppostunities via other means.

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Yes. I ”cry” about this here all the time. My nickname could be ”lonely” lol.
As an extrovert, it is extra bad. Introverts have it easy doing this work, in so many freaking ways.
I can make it manageable by socializing a ton to find a few rare gems here and there. I recently just broke up from a long term relationship so it definitely affects. In a year of socializing, I’m sure to find a few rare gems to add into my immediate circle of friends.
Also, finding and focusing on your life purpose is another key to deal with loneliness.
Getting more in touch with God is the ultimate solution. But this is not accesible for most.