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As Cubbage and Natasha said, this also works as a filter.
But prepare to lose 99% of girls you go on a date with, if you go this approach.
It’s funny because when I recently made a thread about this, I got shit.
But yeah, nowadays I don’t even pursue the girls if they don’t have interest in some form of personal growth and spiritual development.
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2 hours ago, aurum said:But is "charm" different from attraction?
I think it is.
In this context they are synonymous to me.
If I find out someone is a psycho murderer, I run as fast as possible, no matter how hot.
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24 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:Giving your date an existential crisis in not the way to go.
I laughed
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26 minutes ago, PenguinPablo said:Better for her to feel like you're from another universe than to see what's under the hood.
This is key insight. This way she can rationalize in your favour.
If you logically explain the truth, she has no way to rationalize in your favour.
And to answer OP’s original question, what happens when you bring these topics to your normie friends and family? Why would it be any different with girls?
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This is a great thread.
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1 hour ago, BlessedLion said:Absolutely, and that's a solid nuance.
I think there are like 2 layers of attraction, one is the developmental/consciousness layer another is a more "timeless" attraction. Where a woman who is in Stage Red but is super in touch with her femininity, seductress energy and is just sexy.... yeah a Stage Green dude will go for that.
I would say there is a limit to that timeless attraction.
Think a bombshell who is an evil murderer. I lose all attraction to her immediately, no matter how timelessly hot she is.
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2 hours ago, BlessedLion said:Absolutely. This is an important nuance, and does apply to what I was saying about developmental levels of attraction.
Most Pick up material is tailored to attracting Stage Orange women, but if you try that shit with Stage Green women they will almost immediately reject it. I have spent a lot of time in both types of communities, and this distinction is very fascinating. So yeah if you want a Stage Green or above woman, you have to play a different game, they are more intelligent and can see through the game-playing and posturing easier.
Which is why i think the ultimate game is just develop yourself, have a life purpose, be strong, and have a strong foundation around you, then you naturally act confident and high status and loving because you just are.
Thanks guys for confirming what I already understood quite deeply from my own experience.
Issue is that it takes time to develop into proper stage green. So as a young man, who is drawn to younger people than I am, it is not easy to find such maturity, especially in the general mainstream spaces.
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16 minutes ago, Raze said:I heard David Deangelo said not to smile in one of his courses, that’s terrible advice.
Probably older ones. Sounds like some toxic pickup technique.
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57 minutes ago, aurum said:I think that's definitely a real pattern. People of similar developmental levels will naturally come together.
That said, I find attraction is also orthogonal to developmental levels. You don't need a perfect match in developmental for attraction to occur. You can easily be attracted to someone way below or even above your level.
You can even be attracted to someone you find morally evil.
I would say on the surface, at a quick look. But when you allow yourself to breathe and to ground yourself, then someone morally evil loses their charm, if you yourself are more mature.
At least this is my experience.
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3 hours ago, Jirh said:@Natasha Tori Maru A one-off in 13 years is nothing. It's actually quite miraculous to have delivered as much with such depth for so long.
It’s not really the first thing, at all.
Many projects are announced and promised to whatever degree, like the new courses.
I don’t know why this became such a huge thing here. The amount of attack and disrespect was just too much.
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This is not good. At this rate, we will lose this community.
Whatever happens, the least I expect of you in a community like this, is to remain respectful — even in your biggest disagreements.
If you can’t even do that, after all this work, then you have learned nothing.
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Stop it. Be civil towards each other
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35 minutes ago, Sincerity said:@Leo Gura Honestly I think it’d be best if you just cleared up the air about the alien consciousness recording. „I was wrong, I don’t think now it’s possible” or „I still believe it’s possible”. Whatever. For the sake of transparency.
People who do listen to you, listen to you - and it’s double edged, in that they take under consideration both the pure (true) and the unpure (wrong) from you. So if you think now that what you said then was unpure (wrong), clarifying it heals the teachings and clears up confusion.
I agree with you, clearing that up would be good.
At the same time, I am with Leo. Enough is enough. There is a big difference between disagreeing and being disrespectful.
Anyone who has ever lead a team / community before, knows that you as a leader have to put a stop to disrespect, otherwise everything just goes to shit.
So, not only should Leo put a stop to the disrespect for himself, but also to the overall wellbeing of the community.
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7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:@Natasha Tori Maru It is a struggle to understand Reality in ways no one else does. It is similar to building a brand new technology when everyone tells you its impossible. Then, once you do it, everyone says, "That was obvious."
This should be quite obvious for anyone doing this work seriously. I am surprised it is being asked by Natasha.
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The last page of blogposts is Divinely, channeled straight from God.
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@Zenterus They might look like they are on their way somewhere but has a spare 10-15 minutes, if you open them well.
Many girls are missed, if you skip these. Most girls during a day are going somewhere.
Quick numbers lead mostly nowhere, I agree. But a solid 10-15 mins is good.
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I will have to say this first of all.
If your GF wants children, you are doing her extremely fucking dirty.
So I truly hope it’s not her big goal.
Then secondly, what do you want from your relationship?
What are the pros and cons of your relationship right now?
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@Zenterus I will emphasize. I am talking about girls who are walking full speed. The hardest sets, so to speak. The ones who has the hardest and most unwanted to be bothered body languages, and are clearly going somewhere.
If a girl is sitting at a park, no problems.
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Teal Swan has some interesting takes on sexual attraction.
It would be interesting to have Peter Ralston write a book about it. It would be either a masterpiece or a total miss.
But I do find this topic interesting. What is it that truly attracts?
My own attraction has shifted dramatically, the more I have done this work. The more mature and conscious I become, the more I am attracted to depth and maturity.
The more empathetic I become, the more I am attracted to empathy in others; and the more selfishness turns me off.
There is a huge difference in what I am attracted to now vs 10 years ago. Can’t even compare. Even compared to 5 years ago, the difference was huge.
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That being said,
My opens during the day are something along the lines of:
”Hey, excuse me.. 2 seconds / minute..
she stops and gives me her attention..
I was going to see my friend, but I saw you, and you have a very elegant / artistic / interesting look to you”
So it is fairly nonchalant and you can’t necessarily call this fully direct either. And the whole ”interested, but not sold” mindset is always there, and it’s genuine.
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@Zenterus I can see a half-indirect working but how do you stop someone walking full speed with full indirect?
It feels so disgenuine.
In nightlife, I love indirect as I am just trolling people on the open, which is genuine and aligned.
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5 hours ago, aurum said:There's probably a realistic middle.
Little bit of fuckboy isn't bad. Especially in the beginning.
That makes sense.
I definitely still have a bunch of fuckboyness in me that oftentimes comes out.
What do you think about this concept:
If a girl is confused about whether you are a fuckboy or a bf material, it is a problem in itself.
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And mom game, I love it
I just love meeting these girls with their family, only good stuff comes out of it
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3 hours ago, Davino said:Thanks for this question, it has been the key to some great insights.
Feel free to share them with us!
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6 hours ago, aurum said:I don't even want to sleep with her if I don't see long-term potential at this point.
The more I mature the more I agree with this.
The problem with most girls is that it’s better to go the fuckboy route with them first until sex, then bring up relatioship qualities in you.
But the truth is, you probably don’t want a relationship with these girls who needs fuckboy route first, anyways. They are probably more unstable and immature, in general.
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I wanted to share this new insight I got lately somewhere but I didn’t have a place for it. But this is a good one.
So lately, my new favourite ”targets” are girls who are with their moms. Man, if a girl has a good relationship with her mother, and the mother likes me (the easy part), these are two extremely good signs of it going somewhere really good with the girl.

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Yes, that’s the whole point of it. It indicates that you won’t overstay your welcome.