Miguel1

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  1. @Natasha Tori Maru I think Naftali only has brothers. And many of them.

    I will keep studying him, even though I don’t agree with everything he says, I resonate with his deep push for authenticity, honesty and vulnerability from the get go.

    At least I want to practice that more in my life.

    I’ve been the opposite of that all my life really, and it hasn’t borne fruits, as it wastes so much time with the wrong people.

    In this current times, the middle path is most likely the right choice, but I still wanna challenge myself, experiment and directly experience true vulnerability and authenticity from the get go. But I am aware, such behaviour is most likely only going to be punished in our society.


  2. 20 minutes ago, Jirh said:

    @Miguel1 I can't know for sure, but to me, it seems like your shell is tougher than your core. You have nice fancy ideas, but I don't think you have personally derived them for yourself. Maybe partially, but just not enough to be your core identity.

    This is what pickup teaches you in practice. External appearances over the reality underneath.

    I do have a hard shell. Hence I am practicing to break it and to be more real.

    ENFJ’s shadows is that they are social chameleons. Their natural tendency is to get along with everyone, and hate being criticized.

    And pickup just makes it worse as you learn to push buttons of an unconscious individual, rather than to face their real self.


  3. @LordFall How am I spiritual by-passing? After sleeping with over a hundred girls, been in monogamous relationships for 11 years in the past 13 (lots of sex) with very beautiful gfs.

    Why do you know more about me than I know? Perhaps this is the issue here?

    And finally, there’s absolutely zero chance you are not lying to the girls you are dating. I know all the PUA tricks and the way they lie to themselves so they can sleep at night, as I used to practice all of them.


  4. @LordFall My bad. I have been very busy with work and haven’t had proper time to answer here.

    I don’t think I am defensive. I just don’t see eye to eye with you guys.

    In an ideal world, hopefully in the future when we are more conscious as a species, we can be open, honest and vulnerable with each other from the get go — the way Naftali Moses promotes.

    There is nothing to hide.

    You don’t need polices if humans were more conscious and mature.

    Similarly you don’t need to hide and play dating games if you were more conscious and mature.

    I am shocked this is so hard to grasp by you guys.

    All this talk on this thread is simply making me double down and triple down on real authenticity. I try to shred as much social games from my personality as possible. I want to be as real and honest from the get go as possible with the people I meet.

    What else is the point?

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    If I go out to pick up girls just purely for sex, then I will put on my seduction and PUA character on. But that’s just it. Just for sex. I do not expect anything genuine, real and long-lasting from it.


  5. 8 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

    I think that what we all want to be or become here is to find a way to  see what is in front of us and as fast as possible understand if we have a woman or man that is worthy of our time and energy or not. Of course, Dicernment,self honesty etc.. is important.  But we want guidelines, first principles, some bluprint that we can use to avoid traps. 

    Yes, when you are young, then it’s alright and even recommended to fuck around and find out. But as you age and mature, you are no longer interested in that, and want to get straight to the point as soon as possible.


  6. @Natasha Tori Maru Yes, there is a clear disagreement between us.

    Either it is misunderstanding or real, but we definitely don’t see eye to eye right now.

    Relationships at my age is no children’s game. I could fuck around and find out in my 20s but right now it needs to be pretty strong from the get go for it to be worth investing in it.


  7. 18 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

    I don't care about "wasting time" because no time is ever wasted.

    I learn from every bit of my experience. Either more about myself, or another.

    There is so much experience to be had, and all of it is so divine. No moment is wasted.

    I feel no moment stolen.

    The issue is I care about wasting time with the wrong person. Whenever I am in a relationship, I care deeply about the person, and so naturally I invest a ton of time and energy into it.

    If the person then ends up cheating or breaking up for some silly reason, because they ”fell out of fantasy / love”, it is a huge waste.

    I have become very strongly allergic to wasting my time in relationships, as I’ve done it so many times. I’ve learned many lessons don’t get me wrong (and very appreciative) but this is definitely one of the big ones.

    Besides, if you want babies, you do have a time limit. Even for men — and the worst part is that you cannot really afford to have kids with the wrong person, as it will ruin your and the baby’s life.


  8. The dating space lacks integrity, honesty and vulnerability so badly that I am considering going back to my peak PUA phase and just spinning 10 girls for my own needs, treating them all as such: good for little bit of fun and intimacy but that’s it.

    Especially now as I feel like I have properly moved on from my ex partner, and no longer have that same longing for a partner.

    Ideally I would find one girl to build a healthy and sustainable relationship with for the rest of my life here on Earth. But how the fuck?


  9. @MarkKol You miss the point completely.

    The point is that 99%+ people havent done the work, and are stuck in their survival ego, thus are not capable of real intimacy, vulnerability and love — but just uses the other for their own unconscious survival agendas, whether it is something gross like financial or someting sublte like trauma.

     


  10. 17 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

    I think the best take from the first vídeo is the topic of making questions that rigth in the beggining of the dating time mau give information about her or him. I think we could use our time here to create even better questions than Naftali. Imagine the struggle you save yourself by getting precise info about the woman you are about to start a relationship.

    Yes, that’s the point. And that’s what conscious dating in the future should look like.

    Naftali is no perfect by any means, but at least he is pushing radical honesty dating, from the get go. And he is doing it very loudly.