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  1. Posted

    When it comes to dancing and especially hip hop, the key is to listen carefully to the music and see how my body expresses both the gross and the subtle forms of the beats. That’s where the beauty lies in hip hop.

    In other form of music, perhaps expressing the emotions and lyricals of the song becomes more important.

    Btw, this thread was creating a long time ago. It’s not really my main purpose anymore but a part of it.

  2. Posted · Edited by Miguel1

    I have practiced Todd’s game before. It works wonders if you actually have the inner game and social charisma down. It is just manipulative and fake as hell — the opposite of being genuinely you.

    If you don’t have the inner side down, his game makes you a nerd. Overly stuck in your head and even more rigid than before.

    @Ulax What are your concrete results, when practicing Todd’s game?

  3. Posted · Edited by Miguel1

    20 hours ago, LordFall said:

    That was more vulnerable than you were before.

    How come you hate being criticized? 

    Notice how all of your attitudes and framing of the whole conversation is:

    - Miguel is wrong. He is stuck. He needs this and that to grow.

    - You guys are right, and as a group, it is easier to be right together.

    Everything I say or do is looked at through this filter. I am being overly praised for simple, normal honesty and vulnerability here (because it fits your frame). And overly criticized for anything that goes against your narrative.

    All I ask for is total honesty and openess in relationships. How can this be so hard to grasp in such a forum?

    What would a really conscious relationship look like to you? How would you go about building it, if there was zero or minimal manipulation at play?

  4. Posted · Edited by Miguel1

    19 hours ago, Lyubov said:

    You do not tell your mom she looks terrible and fat when she asks you how she looks in a new dress she bought that doesn't fit her. 

    This sort of layer of ambiguity is not a bug of reality, it is an integral part to relating. You need to not judge others for how they navigate this. All honest relating is just being true to yourself and testing your beliefs against your spirit. Rome was not built in a day, the same goes for a great relationship. 

    You do not need to be a jerk when you are being honest.

    Just think: what kind of relationships (whether friendship, romantic or business) we would build if the central gravity of society was SD Yellow / Turquoise? Now this is an extreme example, but it is just to make a point.

    This is honestly so obvious to me I cannot believe how some of you fight against this so hard.

    One of my main reasons coming to this forum is to discuss more conscious form of relationships. If we clearly disagree this badly, it might be better I step down. I am not interested in endless arguing and conversations that lead nowhere. It is very clear we disagree on the fundamentals.

    Are you fully honest, open and vulnerable with a stage orange normie? No. Do you want to build a deep meaningful relationship with them? No, unless you are stuck there.

    Some of you are clearly stuck in orange and optimizing for that life, and that is fine, but don’t come with all your rationalizations and defenses when discussing more conscious form of relationships.

    Some of you are clearly just in denial.

    I have yet to see a proper argument against this form of relating, other than if you try to optimize for attraction with normies.

  7. Posted

    @Natasha Tori Maru I think Naftali only has brothers. And many of them.

    I will keep studying him, even though I don’t agree with everything he says, I resonate with his deep push for authenticity, honesty and vulnerability from the get go.

    At least I want to practice that more in my life.

    I’ve been the opposite of that all my life really, and it hasn’t borne fruits, as it wastes so much time with the wrong people.

    In this current times, the middle path is most likely the right choice, but I still wanna challenge myself, experiment and directly experience true vulnerability and authenticity from the get go. But I am aware, such behaviour is most likely only going to be punished in our society.

  8. Posted

    20 minutes ago, Jirh said:

    @Miguel1 I can't know for sure, but to me, it seems like your shell is tougher than your core. You have nice fancy ideas, but I don't think you have personally derived them for yourself. Maybe partially, but just not enough to be your core identity.

    This is what pickup teaches you in practice. External appearances over the reality underneath.

    I do have a hard shell. Hence I am practicing to break it and to be more real.

    ENFJ’s shadows is that they are social chameleons. Their natural tendency is to get along with everyone, and hate being criticized.

    And pickup just makes it worse as you learn to push buttons of an unconscious individual, rather than to face their real self.

  12. Posted

    @LordFall How am I spiritual by-passing? After sleeping with over a hundred girls, been in monogamous relationships for 11 years in the past 13 (lots of sex) with very beautiful gfs.

    Why do you know more about me than I know? Perhaps this is the issue here?

    And finally, there’s absolutely zero chance you are not lying to the girls you are dating. I know all the PUA tricks and the way they lie to themselves so they can sleep at night, as I used to practice all of them.

  13. Posted · Edited by Miguel1

    @LordFall My bad. I have been very busy with work and haven’t had proper time to answer here.

    I don’t think I am defensive. I just don’t see eye to eye with you guys.

    In an ideal world, hopefully in the future when we are more conscious as a species, we can be open, honest and vulnerable with each other from the get go — the way Naftali Moses promotes.

    There is nothing to hide.

    You don’t need polices if humans were more conscious and mature.

    Similarly you don’t need to hide and play dating games if you were more conscious and mature.

    I am shocked this is so hard to grasp by you guys.

    All this talk on this thread is simply making me double down and triple down on real authenticity. I try to shred as much social games from my personality as possible. I want to be as real and honest from the get go as possible with the people I meet.

    What else is the point?

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    If I go out to pick up girls just purely for sex, then I will put on my seduction and PUA character on. But that’s just it. Just for sex. I do not expect anything genuine, real and long-lasting from it.

  16. Posted

    8 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

    I think that what we all want to be or become here is to find a way to  see what is in front of us and as fast as possible understand if we have a woman or man that is worthy of our time and energy or not. Of course, Dicernment,self honesty etc.. is important.  But we want guidelines, first principles, some bluprint that we can use to avoid traps. 

    Yes, when you are young, then it’s alright and even recommended to fuck around and find out. But as you age and mature, you are no longer interested in that, and want to get straight to the point as soon as possible.

  22. Posted · Edited by Miguel1

    @Natasha Tori Maru Yes, there is a clear disagreement between us.

    Either it is misunderstanding or real, but we definitely don’t see eye to eye right now.

    Relationships at my age is no children’s game. I could fuck around and find out in my 20s but right now it needs to be pretty strong from the get go for it to be worth investing in it.

  24. Posted · Edited by Miguel1

    18 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

    I don't care about "wasting time" because no time is ever wasted.

    I learn from every bit of my experience. Either more about myself, or another.

    There is so much experience to be had, and all of it is so divine. No moment is wasted.

    I feel no moment stolen.

    The issue is I care about wasting time with the wrong person. Whenever I am in a relationship, I care deeply about the person, and so naturally I invest a ton of time and energy into it.

    If the person then ends up cheating or breaking up for some silly reason, because they ”fell out of fantasy / love”, it is a huge waste.

    I have become very strongly allergic to wasting my time in relationships, as I’ve done it so many times. I’ve learned many lessons don’t get me wrong (and very appreciative) but this is definitely one of the big ones.

    Besides, if you want babies, you do have a time limit. Even for men — and the worst part is that you cannot really afford to have kids with the wrong person, as it will ruin your and the baby’s life.

  25. Posted · Edited by Miguel1

    The dating space lacks integrity, honesty and vulnerability so badly that I am considering going back to my peak PUA phase and just spinning 10 girls for my own needs, treating them all as such: good for little bit of fun and intimacy but that’s it.

    Especially now as I feel like I have properly moved on from my ex partner, and no longer have that same longing for a partner.

    Ideally I would find one girl to build a healthy and sustainable relationship with for the rest of my life here on Earth. But how the fuck?