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That is beautifully reframed, thank you. I will contemplate it.

And what are you doing? Honestly, I am considering just straight up putting you into the mute list, if that is allowed. If it’s okay for you, please let this go. You already said what you needed to say, me too.

Same. That being said, many will never move on from that hotness. I personally got tired from it quite fast.

Authentic here? Or authentic socializing? Here I am being 100% authentic. 100% authentic with normies is a social suicide, as leo made a blogpost about recently. I try to be as authentic as possible but there is no way I can be 100% authentic. Perhaps 75-85% max.

Thank you.

@UnbornTao Again, I am not sure what is the problem. The idea of this forum is to live, learn and share experiences and lessons, and to discuss them. This is what I am struggling with at the moment and I am being vulnerable here with you guys, just for you to come play smartass with me. It’s alright, we do not need to continue our discussion. Thanks for your input.

Dating a girl, who requires you to offer her a great lifestyle / social circle, no matter how hot she is, is exhausting and unaligned with what I really want. And seems like that is what Valach also shares. There’s other things / highers things in life than dating the hottest girls.

This week I bumped into a new word: ”intellectual intimacy”. For me, that’s what I have always longed for in relationships. It’s extremely hard for me to be happy in a relationship, if we only explore physical and emotional intimacy, but not intellectual / mind intimacy, where two minds meet and explore together. It feels lacking, shallow and fairly lonely, if there is not the last layer. And we don’t need to agree on everything. Simply the openmindedness, the ability to think nuances and big picture, the ability to be in touch with Spirituality and discuss it. The more I mature, the more it feels like a prerequisite.

Hope you got back home safely

I don’t remember you being this hard to talk with, just about a year ago. I wonder what shifted in you. Anyway, I don’t think I ever expressed that I am somehow holier than socializing. On the other than, I have said multiple times that I need socializing and intimacy.

It seems go to in phases. I worked a lot in the winter, got tired and had to take a break. Started socializing a ton and now I am getting tired of all the social shenanigans. Perhaps I will take some time to do spiritual work, before getting back to work.

I appreciate that in you. And yes, sounds like Ulax needs to do that and exhaust it out of his system. I remember at my peak, doing it so much that it turned repetitive, boring and mechnical to the point I wasn’t even feeling her sexually anymore, as it was just ”work” for me.

Yes, at the same time, as you said, you have Todd’s program but not my suggested style’s program. So perhap’s that’s why. But perhaps it’s simply because people are wired differently. I would be lying if I said that one approach works best for everyone. As a way to measure how efficient your approach is, how much are you going out / approaching girls, and what are your results in terms of getting dates and sex?

Great to hear, thanks for sharing!

I have a bunch of friends, lots of them girls, they give me a ton of social proof. But to manage all of that requires a lot of manuevering and mind games. I am not deep down happy because it goes against my highest values, which is honesty, truth, integrity. So yes, the happiness is short-lived. It’s fun for a while but not deeply fulfilling. Also, I can’t see it being sustainable, so it feels like a whole lotta waste of time. I will lose / let go of this social circle that I have built sooner or later. And sooner than later, as my focus is on way higher things than playing social games.