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@Daniel Balan I have been there.

As an ENF(J) who has consciousness work as a top value, one of the biggest joys in my life is to imagine the future of a highly developed and conscious humankind. This is one part/way how it could play out. Do you have similar types of videos to share?

I deeply respect that brutal honesty here. That is some powerful self-admitting.

As a dancer, I love the analogy. When people don't focus on listening to the music while watching a dance performance, they miss half of the beauty.

@zurew This is where you should do exactly what is being pointed out, which is to use your own mind to make your own judgement. At the end of the day, the fact of the matter is that majority of society lives in group-think and there is a heavily unbalanced stigma against being outside group-think vs being in group-think, making it unhealthy and toxic for humanity and its survival and growth. - - - And finally, we really should respect Leo's wish to keep this thread focused on what really matters and what the thread is about. If we want to discuss this conversation more in-depth, we can start another thread for it.

Leo, out of all spiritual people, does not promote spiritual by-passing. And that's why I follow his work. That being said, we have to remember that we are on a public online forum - and not writing legal law here. If you make thousands of comments on a forum every year, some are bound to be more casual. Some sentences are exaggerated for the impact, theatrics, poetic value and drama of it. Some lines are given without all the trillion nuances and caveats that one could point out with it - that's what his long-ass videos are for, and later his book(s). That just goes with how things work in a place like this. Please consider that, when accusing him of stuff.

@Natasha Tori Maru Thank you for the love 😊 How I "fixed" my ED was actually quite a beautiful story. I was on a 24h cruise ship that turned out wasn't very good party wise, and didn't have many people. So I was stuck there, but I met a stunning blonde. The only issue was that she was in a relationship. Well, oh well. I decided I might as well get to know her and befriend her as there wasn't really any other pretty girl around. She was into meditation and was starting to dive into surface level spirituality (which wasn't necessarily that surface for me at that time - over 5 years ago), which got me interested in talking with her more and more, connect with her more and more. We connected for hours and I started to really like this person on a deeper, emotional, spiritual and intimate level. Felt a deep connection, at home etc. as it is always nice to meet a spiritual person in the mass of normies. We had a lot of good laughs. THEN, out of nowhere (whether this was truly true or not, I still don't know to this day), she drops the bomb that she is on a phase with her boyfriend where they are allowed to explore. She wanted specifically to explore whether she was into girls (perhaps exploring guys wasn't part of the deal, lol). Well, the whole energy shifted immediately, and this huge purge of sexual and romantic tension got released, as we were doing some flirting before the bomb-drop too. I was even being vulnerable and telling her about my ED issues, but turns out, after the shift in dynamics, I had a huge boner just by getting closer to her physically and looking intimately at her beautiful blue eyes, thinking how I wanted to make love and penetrate this woman deeply in her soul. Needless to say, it was the best sex I had during my pick up phase. Probably helped a lot that she was in a 5 year relationship too, as I believe you learn sex skills (and specifically love-making skills), empathy and emotional connection mostly in relationships. It was such a beautiful and healing experience, especially since I had basically been running away from facing myself, and my pain, by having all these empty soulless sex for like 6 months straight after breaking up from my ex - that there was no going back. I realized then and there that I had just been gaslighting myself about the ED all along, and that what I truly enjoy was an intimate connection and love-making, rather than empty ONSs just to run away from myself, and to feed my ego - as OP had realized throughout his journey as well. Lots of inner reflection happened after that experience, which lead to transforming and maturing. Shortly after, I bumped into a girl I ended up dating and being best friends with for 5 years. It recently ended (but that's a conversation for another day), and I moved on my own and closed that chapter in my life. The view from my new apartment, and the next chapter of my life (it's full on ocean and not a lake): Thanks for reading ❤️

Wow, amazing. Feels like reading my own writing. Thanks for the reminder. Yes, I remember very clearly that realization / feeling of casual sex being disgusting. Yes, I remember realizing that I have to repress some of my inherent feminine qualities. Yes, I remember having to put on a "abundance" mindset to attract girls, but deep down needing sex / validation / proof to myself. I remember very clearly realizing that the best sex I had in the countless sex I had, was with women were there was a connection and build up of some dates - and that pretty much all ONS I had were awful. It got so bad to the point where I couldn't even get an erection anymore. Not because of anxiety but because it just became mechanical performation, on repeat. I remember even visiting the doctor because I thought something was wrong with my penis. And I remember very clearly the feeling of shallowness, hollowness and emptiness - and that I was craving for something deeper and intimate. But as Leo said, it took me 1-2 years to realize all this. 10 years was way too long brother.

How do you compare lol

My god, thank god I was a teenager with shitty english and broke, when they were on full rampage scamming mode. I mostly got the good stuff and didn’t get sucked too much into the toxicity. Oh, and lived far away so didn’t get too involved physically either.

Yes, of course. I was looking for inspiration, options and possibilities. Burning through your karma (consciously) is definitely key in growth.

What happened to you?

Yeah, I’m also curious to hear how you is your current relationship with intimate relationships, Leo? Would free me up a lot if I was able to let them go, but cant say I am anywhere close.

Great conversation here guys, thank you. For me, what drives me to extraordinary is the fullness, depth, intimacy, and the potential of life. The other extreme would be something like living the simplest, most ordinary life in nature. And I have lived both. I have enjoyed both. Truly. But what tickles me more is the extraordinary path. Why? Maybe it's ego, maybe it's childhood trauma, maybe it's genes and personality traits, or the combination of all. I don't know. But I know that I simply don't find meaning and joy (or nearly as much) in the ordinary life. To me, that would be kind of like being dead. What's the point? Since we are here as humans for a short moment, why not as well push ourselves to our very limits and experience our full potential?

Where are your roots from?