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Damn, the adults are talking. Let me sit back, listen and learn.

@Butters You contradict yourself. Of course there are exceptions, especially when it comes to drunk horny girls at the end of the night.

I can’t agree with this. Love based on truth and honesty is unpopular precisely because it is unpredictable and uncertain. Difficult conversations will be had, struggles will be faced, and incompatibility won’t be ignored. Anything can happen, as people won’t stay together for egoistical reasons. And ego is the only truly predictable thing in human life, especially compared the love.

You are correct. But honestly, it’s hard to call this love. It’s more about projection, idealizing, and escapism. Rarely does two individual actually develop true intimacy and fall in love with each other, as a real core person. It’s all about fake masks, unintegrated beings, traumas, repressed emotions, and selfish desires type of love. This is more narcissim, rather than love.

If men were fully direct, they would walk up to a random girl and ask straight for sex. Instead they have to play games for hours to get some poon. Game was developed precisely because that direct and honest communication doesn’t work. Girls (a lot of them) love to chase, they want to feel like sex is a win for them, understandably. Granted, many girls also are seriously looking for relationships and doesn’t want to entertain hook ups. On top of that, there’s a million social games and rules you gotta play because of social programming, ego, traumas, and cultural unconsciousness — otherwise you are seen as a weirdo or crazy. We all know this, when we spend time with our families. Socializing is monkey games, and dishonest. We are hundreds of years away from honest socializing.

@Jirh It’s interesting when some of you think that I have a ”holier than thou” attitude. Becareful it is not a defence mechanism from you, a projection perhaps. I used to have no problems seducing girls in relationships to cheat on their partners with me, and even got excited from it. I had many rationalizations for it, Nowadays, if I find out that a girl is even willing to entertain such an idea, I get turned off. Just because I have genuinely matured, does not mean that I have a bigger ego. It is ridiculous that this is even such a big problem with some of you guys.

I am actually looking very much forward to death, but the time is not yet here. That being said, if I had to face death tomorrow, I would be excited to face it head on. This makes me very courageous in life.

@Jirh I don’t see a reason for us to continue our conversation. There are much higher things to life than just following your taste buds unconsciously.

A lot of people are against it just because it is trendy to do so

Being against beauty surgeries and botox. And on the same token, beauty surgeries and botox.

Nowhere did I deny it. On the contrary, I very much am clear that it is there. But my discerment is what prevents it from fully blossoming. It’s like seeing a delicious fat cake. You might initially find it attractive but if you are conscious enough, you can stop yourself from drooling over it, and even start to find it disgusting. Eventually when you practice the conscious recognization of what something is long enough, it becomes automatic and a second nature. For example, my mind right now is immediately repulsed by most 18-20 years olds because I have trained my brain to view them as children. They look like children. Even though they are literally at the most fertile, and thus, sexy stage of their lives. Physically.

@Jirh This is not my experince at the moment. In my early 20s to mid 20s, yes that was my experince. I still have the skills and game to be attracting these young and physically attractive girls, but I find their mind to be so naive, it is hard for me to get excited about them — in some ways I even feel like I am taking advantage of their naive mind, and using them, if I game and seduce them. If I haven’t masturbated in a while and a hot girl appears in my room and I didn’t have to game and get to know her, then sure I guess we could have sex, especially if she is the more proactive one. But not sure how fulfilling that sex would be for me. But in any normal situations, I’ve become more like a girl with sex, as I need proper build-up, some sort of a connection. And that’s the problem, a proper connection with young girls is seemingly impossible. I need to admire her psychologically and be mentally engaged when hanging out with her, to a certain degree. It arouses me when my mind feels aligned and safe with a girl, and this happens only if I see a level of alignment, integrity, and maturity in a girl — if the girl is immature, it turns me off, as it almost feels like I am spending time with a child. I need to feel like this is a great girl, and I would like to build something more meaningful with her, other than just 1 night stand. Lately I’ve pulled some girls home, just to decide that I want to only cuddle her and sleep, because I realized that her mind doesn’t get me on. I don’t see any future with her, and so I don’t want to use her. Rather, I just want to give her some love in the form of warmth and cuddling. Imagine that your highest values are the exact opposite of what a girl represents. It’s hard to get excited about her then. This is my situation. 5 years ago I didn’t care about truth, integrity, empathy, maturity, consciousness Nearly as much as I do now, and so, seduction and game was fun and very doable — altho it also got boring really fast then too.

@Emerald thank you. I am with you, the issue is I struggle to find psychologically mature women who are also relatively young and physically looks good, as I am also fairly young yet. I find a lot of physically good looking but immature or crazy girls, and as you said, my discerment stops me from being attracted to them. @Jirh You didn’t properly read what she wrote. Me maturing definitely has changed in how my attraction develops and who and what attracts me. Integrity and alignment in girls becomes more and more important for me, as my own integrity and alignment develops. The more full of shit, drama and unconsciousness someone is, the more they stop me from being attracted to them, and even repulse me — no matter how great pair of a boobs they have. If a girl is a psycho, why in the hell would I get involved with her? This is ridiculous.

Link?

Something about him turns me off badly. I think it is his overly commercialized simplistic approach to everything. He comes across too much of a marketer.