Miguel1

Different game styles fits different personalities. With Vladimir’s style, it is all fun and games in the moment but doesn’t mean it sticks and the number is actually solid. But that being said, I agree Todd’s game is try-hard if you don’t mix it with proper inner game and charisma. Btw, do you know why Vladimir stopped posting?

When it comes to dancing and especially hip hop, the key is to listen carefully to the music and see how my body expresses both the gross and the subtle forms of the beats. That’s where the beauty lies in hip hop. In other form of music, perhaps expressing the emotions and lyricals of the song becomes more important. Btw, this thread was creating a long time ago. It’s not really my main purpose anymore but a part of it.

I have practiced Todd’s game before. It works wonders if you actually have the inner game and social charisma down. It is just manipulative and fake as hell — the opposite of being genuinely you. If you don’t have the inner side down, his game makes you a nerd. Overly stuck in your head and even more rigid than before. @Ulax What are your concrete results, when practicing Todd’s game?

Notice how all of your attitudes and framing of the whole conversation is: - Miguel is wrong. He is stuck. He needs this and that to grow. - You guys are right, and as a group, it is easier to be right together. Everything I say or do is looked at through this filter. I am being overly praised for simple, normal honesty and vulnerability here (because it fits your frame). And overly criticized for anything that goes against your narrative. All I ask for is total honesty and openess in relationships. How can this be so hard to grasp in such a forum? What would a really conscious relationship look like to you? How would you go about building it, if there was zero or minimal manipulation at play?

You do not need to be a jerk when you are being honest. Just think: what kind of relationships (whether friendship, romantic or business) we would build if the central gravity of society was SD Yellow / Turquoise? Now this is an extreme example, but it is just to make a point. This is honestly so obvious to me I cannot believe how some of you fight against this so hard. One of my main reasons coming to this forum is to discuss more conscious form of relationships. If we clearly disagree this badly, it might be better I step down. I am not interested in endless arguing and conversations that lead nowhere. It is very clear we disagree on the fundamentals. Are you fully honest, open and vulnerable with a stage orange normie? No. Do you want to build a deep meaningful relationship with them? No, unless you are stuck there. Some of you are clearly stuck in orange and optimizing for that life, and that is fine, but don’t come with all your rationalizations and defenses when discussing more conscious form of relationships. Some of you are clearly just in denial. I have yet to see a proper argument against this form of relating, other than if you try to optimize for attraction with normies.

This one is just to showcase my raw dancing skills. Hip hop gets the best out of my skills but it has no story. It’s just cool 🔥🔥🔥 https://www.instagram.com/reel/Db0z0HFiiGs/?igsh=MWV0ZzN1dnJkMW5rZg==

Lol. These ”holier than thou” projections and backhanded compliments are getting ridiculous.

@Natasha Tori Maru I think Naftali only has brothers. And many of them. I will keep studying him, even though I don’t agree with everything he says, I resonate with his deep push for authenticity, honesty and vulnerability from the get go. At least I want to practice that more in my life. I’ve been the opposite of that all my life really, and it hasn’t borne fruits, as it wastes so much time with the wrong people. In this current times, the middle path is most likely the right choice, but I still wanna challenge myself, experiment and directly experience true vulnerability and authenticity from the get go. But I am aware, such behaviour is most likely only going to be punished in our society.

I do have a hard shell. Hence I am practicing to break it and to be more real. ENFJ’s shadows is that they are social chameleons. Their natural tendency is to get along with everyone, and hate being criticized. And pickup just makes it worse as you learn to push buttons of an unconscious individual, rather than to face their real self.

Hahaahahah I raise my hand!

@LordFall Alright brother, it seems like everything I say will be turned around, and gaslighted by you. I can’t even answer your false accusations because you will just say that I am doing something wrong. I don’t see a reason to continue this conversation. I thank you for your effort and participation.

PREACH brother. We talked on IG, but I am really gonna hone in on RAW authenticity there so I will naturally attract not only girls, but the RIGHT girls. Thank you for the post.

@LordFall How am I spiritual by-passing? After sleeping with over a hundred girls, been in monogamous relationships for 11 years in the past 13 (lots of sex) with very beautiful gfs. Why do you know more about me than I know? Perhaps this is the issue here? And finally, there’s absolutely zero chance you are not lying to the girls you are dating. I know all the PUA tricks and the way they lie to themselves so they can sleep at night, as I used to practice all of them.

@LordFall My bad. I have been very busy with work and haven’t had proper time to answer here. I don’t think I am defensive. I just don’t see eye to eye with you guys. In an ideal world, hopefully in the future when we are more conscious as a species, we can be open, honest and vulnerable with each other from the get go — the way Naftali Moses promotes. There is nothing to hide. You don’t need polices if humans were more conscious and mature. Similarly you don’t need to hide and play dating games if you were more conscious and mature. I am shocked this is so hard to grasp by you guys. All this talk on this thread is simply making me double down and triple down on real authenticity. I try to shred as much social games from my personality as possible. I want to be as real and honest from the get go as possible with the people I meet. What else is the point? - - - - - If I go out to pick up girls just purely for sex, then I will put on my seduction and PUA character on. But that’s just it. Just for sex. I do not expect anything genuine, real and long-lasting from it.

@Natasha Tori Maru It’s not that I think you are not coming in good faith. The issue is that since we don’t align in the fundamentals when it comes to this matter, asking such vague question like ”do you trust yourself?” just makes things more confusing. Do I come across as someone who has zero trust in himself?