Miguel1

It is just some harmless flirtin. It happens all the time. You are making too big of a deal out of it. Getting a girl’s number doesn’t mean anything, especially if the guy is new to game, he most likely won’t be getting any solid numbers anyway.

Correct. But again, for an extremely hard case, giving them a practice of asking someone for the time or direction, is crucial part of his journey. Did he really need help with time or direction? No.

Yes, integrity is mostly directly against human selfishess and ego that practicing integrity gets you into so much trouble, it’s hard. Despite that, that’s what’s aligned with the highest Truth, which is truly the highest value in existence.

Generally speaking, taking action is a more efficient way to improve inner game.

Yes, but some guys have extreme level of that.

One of the main problems of nofap lol. As you said, let this be a big lesson. Screen harder brother. I could fill my week in a way that I have a date for every day but it’s a huge waste of time if I don’t see any future with them. There are good women out there, just very rare, and mostly in relationships already. Funny how this turned around, and now I’m giving you the same advice you gave me

Have you heard of anxiety? Even someone who hasn’t dealt with anxiety in years, I can still remember how bad it is.

Not necessarily liked but find the most important and meaningful: Integrity and Truth. Without these, we spind around like unconscious apes, going nowhere.

This is ideal. But you don’t understand how bad it is for some guys starting out. Have empathy for them, at least they are trying. For guys that are struggling heavily, it can be impossible to practice on girls they find attractive as first step. Later on, of course they should do that. I see not much harm created if you practice approaching and initial stage of conversation with a non attractive girl, and even taking their phone number. If you take them on multiple dates, then there’s too much harm, yes.

You need to practice just being a troll and a retard to balance your seriousness. In an ideal place, you are fun and loose, yet express sexual tension. Now you are too serious, and the bad type of serious where there is no sexual tension, rather compensation.

You need independence from your family. Second of all, what is your biggest passion? What gives you the most meaning and fulfillment? Making a career out of that online might be the solution for the rest of your problems.

I might miss some context with Valach and LordFall, but I don’t see an issue with girls you don’t find attractive to practice your social skills, as long as you don’t lead them on. There is no need to hurt anyone while practicing your skills. You can always make friends with them. And if you wanna practice your attraction generating skills with not attractive girls, then just come up with an excuse later that doesnt hurt them: ”I really enjoyed your company but I want to be honest with you, upon thinking further, right now I am seeing a girl with whom things are getting a bit too serious for me to see other girls and feel good about myself”. You are never going to be perfectly 100% ethical and selfless in this world. Just you existing will cause other forms to disappear.

Now try getting that response in your neighbourhood, then it gets a bit more tricky

I think there was some clear and strong red flags in Zenterus’ story early on. For some reason he didn’t take them seriously enough to call it quits. It could have been something human like deep empathy, or perhaps as you said, emotional investment. Personally I would have planned and prepared for my exit, the moment I found out she has a court case due to not paying what she owes and being disowned by her parents. And I would have probablly found these out earlier already, as I screen quite hard nowadays in the beginning.

Thanks for sharing and being vulnerable with us brother. We are here for you. I just hope she doesn’t falsely accuse you of rape etc. That can really fuck your life up real good. - - - - - I avoid these crazy girls by screening them quite hard in the beginning. I have developed a very strong sense for detecting bullshit, not only by being with so many girls, but more importantly, by doing this work we do here on actualized seriously. I have ”lost” a ton of girls simply because my screening mechanism is so strong. I notice my eye contact can be very intense and suspicious sometimes. This is not really losing them though, more like saving myself from a ton of trouble, wasted time and energy. I also tend to go for the more naturally beautiful neighbour girl, than the hottest types. I find them to be way less of a headache, and way more enjoyable company, in general. - - - - - You make a lot of great points, and communicate well, despite your current mental state. I commend you for that. As there is toxic masculinity, there is also toxic femininity, which I believe is what you are talking about in your point about femininity. My question for you tho: Could you have find out about her crazy life earlier, and ditch her before things got so bad? For example, the moment you found out that her parents disowned her and so on? But man, what a story to completely fuck both of us up, since we are in a very similar position with these girls and dating. I crave intimacy with girls, yet I have to drop them like flies all the time because of some weird shit that almost every girl seems to have. Even forgetting higher connection to Spirituality and Truth, most young attractive girls seem to miss one or more of the basic stuff like communication skills, empathy, or basic level integrity and emotional intelligence, doesn’t know herself and her values — and most importantly, lacks emotional regulation skills, and haven’t healed her deepest traumas.