Miguel1

Leo has explained this so much already?

God experiences all. There are life forms where God has it much worse and life forms where God has it much better.

Welcome to the forum. It wasn’t always like this. The forum had to go extensive transformation of banning all trolls and extremely low quality posters, and switching to a system where new members are not accepted immediately, to get to where we are. This way, it also attracts and encourages the higher quality members to also stay and to be active.

I dont have time to write more in-depth answer for you but your writing just made me think that I'm grateful I went through the pickup phase all the way, when my moral development was still low. If I had to do it now, it would be way fucking harder.

Women too, if you come dressed up as a kangaroo

Most girls need that power dynamic. They need to feel like they are chasing, which makes the guy feel special to them. It's immature and unconscious monkey behavior, but what to do. That's why we have this thread and Leo's answer to it.

This thread is antithetical to the work here. Not everything Leo says is right. A lot, but definitely not everything.

Attraction needs to be maintained all the time but the deeper you are in the relationship, the less sharp your game needs to be. Also, depends on the girl. I only end up in relationship with more mature girls, so with them, love & empathy goes a long way. But to answer your question, in general: girls are willing to put up with shitty behavior way more (as long as they are attracted to you) compared to receive good behaviour, when they are not attracted to you. So in that sense, game is more superior. But again, game doesn't need to be as on point, when you have deepened your relationship with her.

Yeah, I never heard of Sam before either. On a quick look, doesn't seem to be someone to look up to. But in typical Owen's fashion, he surrounds himself with corrupted and unconscious people, as long as they are rich and famous.

Haha, when I put on charismatic push-pull seductive game on vs I treat women as humans and with love and empathy from the get-go, the results are day and night. It's fucking miserable but not surprising at this point in my life anymore.

I just don’t see that an average woman would prefer to be leading over an average man, even in a situation where both are conscious and wise. It is in the feminine’s nature to be present, to be in nature and nurturing the gardens, to be smelling the flowers, baking, making their home beautiful, and to be playing with the kids, and to feel good and to nurture their environment. Of course there are exceptions. You seem to be enjoying a leadership position. Men create and lead. Women follow from behind, and make the creation more beautiful. Men create the bakery factory machine and system running it. Women add the finishing touch to the finished product by adding a cherry on top the cake, and by packaging it. Men build houses, women make them homes. Men build supporting pillars to society. Women give life to it.

In an ideal world, men should be the one leading society to a better place. In this world tho, men are immature, selfish and corrupt as fuck. Not saying there cannot be female leaders but in general, it’s not in their nature to do so. They rather focus on staying present and making the current place even more beautiful, whereas men are more analytical and thus, future focused.

Only thing you need to focus on starting out is to have fun and let loose. Everything else will fall into place afterwards.

This is it

@Leo Gura I see, thank you for your take.