Kuba Powiertowski

@Razard86 is everything also a pure perfection according to You?

So „do the evolution, baby”?

Software that creates an illusion of lack and incompleteness. As it is a tool, it makes no sense to denounce it or, on the contrary, praise it. What the user will do with it is properly his circus and his monkeys. What do they say in Vedanta? Great tool terrible ruler...

@Razard86 Have you noticed, my friend, that all your message is negative? Everything here basically sucks. Well, unless someone achieves or wakes up to your perspective. The question is, is it worth it? Since your view of existence is actually shitty...

@puporing agree, well & nicely said?

That is why You are not a robot???

Embrace Your own understanding. You have got it precisely?

@Salvijus still missing the point. This paradox shows you that only from meta-understanding level you can „see” that paradox = two solutions which one exclude the other. With every theorem that is algorhytmized such paradoxes are inevitable. This shows you also that human understanding is beyond computation. That Consciousness is beyond computation. That’s it. Good day, Bro❤️♾️?️?

Liar says: this statement is false. Although much better example is: everyone lies. If everyone lies that means that the speaker who says this sentence also lie because belongs to „everyone set”. This way is more clear. This paradox is often use to point out the deep meaning of Godel’s Incompleteness Theorem. Because to answer this paradox You need to go beyond „algorhytmic understanding set” and enter the Level of „meta-understanding” which is non-algorhytmic. That is why A.I. will never reach this level. You need to build Artificial Consciousness and but first create another multi page thread about it?

It’s a liar paradox, not a statement paradox. You are all missing the point.

A very entertaining discussion until I got bored of its pointlessness despite I like to disagree:) Good night everyone

Between the One Who / Which Is All That Is and your conception that the one human ego mind brings into existence all known and unknown existence, there is a gulf of ignorance, fear, and hallucinations. There is no common ground here.

@Yimpa @Benton This whole race to understand Consciousness, to realize what It Is, has its origin in the need for control. The ancient need of the ego. It's plain to see. And most of these concepts are pure anthropocentrism. Like the fact that the human ego creates reality. It creates, yes, images distorted by its own conditioning. Until you free yourself from all your limitations, the only honest thing you can say is that Reality Is. That Consciousness is. What is it? - I don't know. Maybe you can get in touch with that Immeasurable, Nameless Something we call God and experience how That Something Is All That Is. How it permeates everything with understanding, acceptance, and love beyond description. Maybe one day you will dissolve all boundaries and dissolve in What you cannot comprehend in this human form. The finite within the infinite cannot contain the infinite by its limitation.

Beyond that is The Great Unknown, which is probably hard to accept for some folks.

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@Benton There is no problem. There are different worldviews, that are generated by human minds and hearts. That's all.

@Razard86 You write a lot about the mind. THE MIND this, THE MIND that. You forgot the Heart. The Spirit lives there. Spirit is always FREE - do you understand what that means? It follows its own path. Respect that. Respect the shit. It's also divine. Btw, I like You Razard, really. Even if I don't know You

If You want reality to be your way. It's not going to happen. If You can't find peace in a reality where people are full of shit, You must imagine another one...

Because you want something - it's obvious.

@Razard86 But still, the question remains: what do you, YOU RAZARD, want? In my opinion, it's the most profound question everyone must face, the only one that is good to be taken seriously.

...because "people are full of shit"

@Razard86 You speak with a passion worthy of a holy inquisition. To paraphrase my beloved Mike Tyson again: your whole concept of just you imagining others is valid until you get your first punch in the face on the street. If only that. Not some serious tragedy that I wouldn't wish on anyone. Am I the one who's afraid of being nothing, or is it you who has a problem with a Reality that maybe you just don't like? And anyway, Brother, what do you want? What are you going to achieve?

We see what we want to see. And love accepts all of it. Effortlessly. Without jugdements. But what we want to see will never be That what Is. So simple yet extremely difficult?

@Razard86 ok, let's assume for a moment that I'm your very close relative, i.e. your brother. And I don't see things the way you see them. I don't need you to see them in my way. I don't need to convince you to anything since you are little diffrent than me in very unique way, what I perceive as a great value that add to the richness of the world. I don't want and don't need you to be imagined. I want you to be real. Can you love such real world with real, different people? Despite they are full of shit as you say. And don't forget that I'm also God. God is communicating to you right now, even if it is level of an ego. "Evil lurks in the eye of the seer". Are you sure that you know God?

Until I experience such conditions, I can't say anything, except that as a 45-year-old I perfectly remember the times without the Internet, as well as spending two months of holidays alone and it wasn't a tragedy and even quite pleasant Nevertheless - The unimaginable scale and power of this Love and Understanding are unsustainable in an unfit human body. I don't know how many such entities in "super bodies" are currently on this planet, but I assume few, if any. In this context, the declaration of absolute solipsism, whoever makes it, is untenable. As a human being on this planet, you are conditioned and limited to the nth power. No realization of ultimate reality - if there is such a thing - will change that. And really - letting go, forgiving, and accepting what is - is the only way + a lot of laughter and ordinary everyday joy. For Truth Is - The Way and the Life. Amen:)