vladorion

The ones who truly know don't say much about it because nothing can be said about it.

It's worth saying that limitation does not equal separation. While limitation is necessary to have an experience, separation is not necessary. And it's the game of separation that causes suffering.

The point of cessation is not to have a cool experience. The point is that once you have a cessation, your perception of yourself and the world is permanently changed. That doesn't happen from sleeping or passing out.

Don't just believe everything Leo says. A lot of it is just him inferring and projecting stuff. Like, "Why would God create delusion?" - "Well, because he got bored". Since he hasn't transcended his ego, he's identifying with God (or, rather, with Consciousness that believes it is God) and then projecting human emotions onto God, like boredom. Another idea that he pulls out of his ass is that you'll play the game of fall asleep/wake up forever, as if Samsara is the only game there is in the entire universe.

Meaning is just something imaginary the mind wants as opposed to what is here right now.

True, but one sided. If you're not spiritually gifted, then technique matters way more than it is for spiritually gifted people. So it's important to have a teacher who knows all the subtleties of a technique and can point out any mistakes one is making. Self inquiry is not as simple as asking "who am I?".

True. And it manifests on the mental level as what they call an I-thought.

The I-thought is not so easy to keep attention on because it's hidden under a million other thoughts. When you truly feel the I-thought, it's very enjoyable, you'll feel a lot of love towards it. If your feelings do not respond positively to it, it's not the I-thought.

You assume that individuality dies with the physical body, which you don't know.

It's as much a lesson as waking up in the morning. You can use it as a lesson I guess if you go back to sleep.

I originally replied to you when you were asking why someone wanted to awaken psychedelic free. To which I replied that psychedelic awakenings don't stick. To which you replied something about learning lessons on psychedelics (which has nothing to do with awakening). You can't integrate a memory of an awakening. All you can do with such a memory is create an image of an awakened state in your mind and believe that that's awakening, which would take you even further away from direct experience.

Awakening, enlightenment.

All thoughts are essentially about one thought, which is I/me. Every time you find yourself thinking, you can ask "What do I want to say about myself?". It is something positive. If it's not positive, you can ask "Is this what I think about myself or what I think others think about me?" and then move to what YOU want to say about yourself, which is always positive. You'll notice that that image of yourself is very enjoyable, so enjoy it and allow yourself to love it. You deny it love and that's why it creates 1000 thoughts in your head trying to get love. Or if you can, you can go directly to the I/me thought (which is more like a feeling) and enjoy/love it. That is the essence of self-inquiry taught by Ramana Maharshi.

The point of awakening is not to learn lessons... It's to return to your natural state. And it's a lot of unlearning in the process rather than learning.

Have you read A Course in Miracles book?

Also, if you're not already effortlessly living in the moment when having a psychedelic awakening, there's a big chance your ego is just going to co-opt the awakening and identify with the experience, thinking it's God, awareness, emptiness etc.

Because psychedelic awakenings don't stick except in very rare cases, probably when a person was very close to it anyway.

You can give her a more accurate picture of what Christianity is really about.

Doesn't really matter how you describe it.

If an experience doesn't cause a shift in identity that lasts, it's not really an awakening, no matter how profound it seems.

And then you un-became infinitely conscious, once the trip was over.

I'd investigate what makes your current experience unsatisfactory and who is it that wants permanent bliss.

Because women are more devotional by nature which some of these gurus exploit.

Lol. Grow up.

There are a lot of fears that don't serve a useful purpose in situations where people experience them. Most fear is not just useless, it's detrimental to good health, happiness, success in life. Using this logic, I could say: If covid didn't serve a useful purpose, it wouldn't exist. And someone who thinks believing that covid is a threat makes it one is not a psychopath. Might want to check out the definition of psychopathy.