Vibroverse

Yeah, i agree. There is so frickin much shadow going on here, and it is like noone is aware of their shadow, and everyone simply hides under a mask of "i'm the infinitely awake", or things like that, really.

Dude, why do you assume i'm getting mad at you, i'm not getting mad at you, i'm just sharing what i'm thinking. I find you kinda interesting, because you act like you've found the highest truth, but i don't think you've actually found it. I think you have created a mask for yourself and hiding under it, and you are trying to tough it out, but i think you may not be doing a genuine self work. I mean, it is like everything is some kind of a battle for you, you know what i mean?

I think it depends on what we mean by feeling and intuition. I mean, if you use it like "ah, i just feel that way" etc, then i would agree with you, but i think i cultivated intuition, and awareness of deeper feelings, is very important in the deepening process. And as it comes to "i as god creates reality", again, i think it also depends when you talk about it and what you mean by it. That's why i find language to be problemmatic, because it creates the illusion that statements have static meanings.

Yeah, i understand that everything actually is good, but it is not easy to see that when you are feeling trapped, or things like that. And, yeah, when you are in a higher state of consciousness, you can "logically" show to yourself that everything actually is good, etc, but if you are in a lower state of consciousness, then your "logic" will show you that it actually may not be the case, for your perception changes. You see, i think logic and rationality, and that sort of a thing, actually is much much more about your state of consciousness. What sounds logical to you differs when you are in different states of consciousness, and that's why i kinda lost hope with all philosophies, all socalled logical and rational models of reality.

Yeah, everyone feels like they need to pretend like they are very awake or they won't be loved and accepted in the forum, it's so weird.

Yeah, i tried to be a "think positive" person before, but i'm coming to realize that it doesn't work, self honesty is very important. However, being to honest with yourself also seems to be a problem, in a sense. I mean, your mind is also capable of creating endless drama stories, adding endless details to the script, you see. I think inner stillness and a state of awareness might be some sort of a balance point, though, like, accept how you are feeling and what you are thinking, what you're worried about etc, but stay as neutral and aware as you can about it, in a sense, to not get lost in it also.

Yeah, but i don't think exploding is necessary, neither on the screen or people, even though i do both of those things from time to time. And also, yeah, self honesty is very important, being aware of your fears and worries, and your buttons, so to speak. I understand that it is a reflection of me, but still, just knowing this, even if you really know, is not enough, if you are not aware of your fears and worries and so on, and not meditating on them.

I just write how i'm feeling and what i'm thinking down briefly, and then let it go as much as i can, meditate into it, so to speak, as much as i can, and then write my current feeling and thought, and so on. It is like me tricking myself into a meditative state by simply asking my question or telling my problem, and then letting my inner being, so to speak, give me a clearer and more satisfying answer by relaxing.

Sure, i'm telling this mostly to myself, and if you wanna listen, to you also. But, yeah, i need to stop doing mental masturbations believing that there is some real value in it, and work genuinely on my fears and worries and so on, otherwise i just get lost in the movie, true.

Go meditate and do shadow work, you can have trillions of different perspectives, but if you do not truly transform your state of consciousness, your level of awareness, then it is all just stories. This is something i am telling both you and me, and also anyone who is listening, from this dimension or whatever, haha. Be honest with yourself about your current state of consciousness, and go do the work.

Go do inner work, everyone, including myself. Go do inner work. It's so annoying, these words like awakening and who is more awakened and all that crap, that i'm tired and very very bored of all that talk. The frickin house is on fire, but you are still trying to fight over meaningless bullshit instead of being honest with yourself and embrace your own fears and worries and shit like that. You turn this into another soap opera, really, where instead of fighting over a girl or money, you fight about who is more awake, or who is really awake and whose awakening is fake, and shit like that.

Yeah, and i don't know why exactly, but it's in small doses, getting less and less, hopefully, yeah, let's see.

Haha, sweet.

Yeah, and it's not that i will necessarily try to shift to the pokemon universe as a pokemon, and totally forget that i've ever been a human or things like that, but my point is about taking the thought to its limit points, like asking if there is really a limit for how powerful and brilliant consciousness is, like asking if consciousness really can know any limit, you know.

Yeah, the vr technology will catch up to that idea at some point, the dream creating a bridging dream as a path of least resistance into that idea for some, perhaps, trippy.

But, see, this is not a sensible argument that you're offered, it is just a word game. Okay, then, let's call both this world and the dream realms hallucination or imagination, now have we transcended the law of identity when we put them both into an upper set, haha? And we can keep creating a bigger upper set eternally. Btw, i don't think i would incarnate into that world, i think the pokemon world would be more fun. And i think those kiddos who claim that they really experience such shifts to those worlds might have a point, haha.

Fuck common sense, wtf even is common sense. This world clearly is a dream, i wanna go visit some cartoon worlds, haha.

And ten minutes after i wrote this someone sent a message to me on a totally irrelevant site whose signature goes: "i'm the real life version of a cartoon bunny", wtf, haha.

I watch some talks from youngsters who claim that they shift to, say, to the pokemon universe or to the harry potter universe etc. And, call me crazy, but when i think about it, i think this reality we are in really may not be more real than those universes. This building i'm living in may not be more real than, say, a building from the bojack horseman universe, my upstair neighbors being bojack horseman and princess carolyn, haha.

Well, atoms are an imagination at the ultimate level, but if you are a physicist doing some experiments with the atoms, then they are real for you. Reality ultimately is not made up of atoms, but it is made of stories, so to speak, but the story that includes atoms might be beneficial for you for some reason in some context perhaps, just like the examples that leo gave in this talks which you criticized.

Don't confuse the absolute with the relative. Consciousness appears to itself in the form of space and time at the relative level where language and communation exist. So, perhaps, think of it like consciousness being so empty that it is full, so nothing that it is something, and get used to the paradoxes where it is both that and not that. Existence is a transrational nonexistence, a self paradox.

I don't remember the exact quotes word by word, but here are some verses by paraphrase: ... he is the past and the future, he is the seen and the unseen. ... when he wants something to be, he just says be, and it is. ... he is the creator of both you and your creations. ... wherever you turn, his face is there. ... he is the lord of the worlds, and he does not change your circumstances unless you change what is within you. ... he creates without needing any prior creation, he creates out of nothing, nothing is beyond his power, knowledge and understanding. ... even a leaf does not fall off a tree outside his knowledge and permission. ... everything follows a divine order, he is the most compassionate, and there is no fear to the friends of allah. ... oh my slave who has tasted the fulfillment, surrender to me and join my heaven, i am always aware of all of you. ... he send rules to each tribe that fits them, he is the light of the universe. ... we test you to see how much faith you have in us, so don't get lost in the world because it is just a test place, it us just a playground. ... inside you and outside you, we have hidden our signs, our verses, and those who have real seeing can see our wisdom. ... if your heart is closed to us, then you look, but you don't see, so polish your heart to see. ... we respond when you pray, but you need to surrender to us, so polish your heart to see.

I think universe might be always trying to talk to you, and "it" can use synchronicities etc also.

Atheism doesn't necessarily mean absolute randomness, and it is not even clear what we mean by random. And there are many forms of atheism, don't put them all into the same box.