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What Leo has shared thus far for free is actually more than enough to help you wake up to highest understandings, you just need listen carefully, and listen listen through the lines.

Yes, no, yes, no, yes, no.

Yes, your tiny individual self that you believe is you is just a wave in the ocean, but again, the idea is that the wave actually is not just a wave, it is the movement of the entire ocean, and therefore there actually is nothing but the ocean, and by moving it is appearing, being, manifestation. And in the relative level, yes, you'd been conditioned by society and your biological structure, and so forth, but at the absolute level, they are all you, they are not something but you, the ocean. All the waves are the ocean believing that they are wave, when actually they are all one, and you are that one. All personal selves are the movement and activity and "being" of the same one self, and that same one self is the same one self, therefore that is the level where the ideas, even the experiences, of you and i and them etc lose their meanings, and there only remains the one.

Am I imagining the memories, the past, the now, the soul, the mind, the body, the experiences, and all, of all that I perceive, including "my" own, being the pure dimensionless void that "i" am? Am I like the void that is appearing and imagining itself into nothingness of the void?

So Leo, all realities are consciousness, the dimensionless void, aka me, imagining in different ways, like having different dreams with different scripts and contents and so on, and I am all those dreams anyways, in that sense, like I'm this dream, right now, talking to myself and asking this question to myself? I'm thinking of it like reality being like a television and there are infinite probable channels I can tune to, like infinite probable dreams I can have, for I've been dreaming this dream for the last, at the ultimate sense, like, zero seconds? And so, if time and my history and so on actually are all just imaginations of mine, and people and so on also are so, in that sense, then I can become a different tv channel, a different dream, in that sense, but like you say, those other dreams, channels, universes, etc, not being something other than me, all of them being me, the imagination?

Well, you really have said a lot to dive deeper into haha.

And everything else is a relative, manifestational, experience.

This one explains it pretty well, with a good depth of information about it.

Yeah, I thought of that meaning of it also after I wrote it haha.

Both solipsism and nonsolipsism and everything that can ever be said about reality, or any model of reality at all, is relative, including this thing that I'm saying. And then, if this thing that I'm saying is relative, then this thing that I'm saying also is not true, therefore what I'm saying is true, and false, and true, and false, ad infinitum. Experience is not a conceptual thing, it is not this or that, it is not a or b or c or d, that's all relative, that's all contextual.

Yes, that's certainly something I agree with. Man, I think I'm understanding something but this is so hard for me to explain for now. This is something I'm not even able to explain to myself clearly yet. And maybe I'm totally bullshitting, I don't know ?

But just because you are not hearing the sound of it doesn't mean that it really didn't fall, because even in the asking of that question we say that "if a tree falls in the forest", we, by definition, are saying that there is a tree that is falling in the forest.

Yeah, but if reality is imagination, maybe us being able to imagine that other parallel worlds etc might exist is the tree making a sound, in a sense. Because if we say reality is imagination, but other probabilities of the universe that we can imagine do not exist, then it feels to me like we are contradicting ourselves.

@Mason Riggle I think we are misunderstanding what "only now exists" means. If we are watching a channel on the television, do we say that "this channel is the only channel that exists"? "This channel is the only channel that exists, because this is the channel I'm watching now".

Yet everytime you get into the dream state, you forget this world and find yourself in another world and continue from there, when you are in the dream state. Just because it is not your current experience now, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. But if what you mean is this shit is what I'm dealing with now, and this is the reality that I am in, that I'm being now, and therefore all those other ideas of the other dreams I can have etc don't simply make sense to me, and irrelevant to me, then yeah. But it doesn't mean that consciousness cannot become another "frame" in that sense all together, like it is being this "frame" right now. But if you say that all that matters to you simply is what is appearing to you now, then yeah.

Yeah then that's a matter of how we are defining the word "universe". To me, the word "universe" means this current experience of this timeline, this current dream, where we believe that, for instance, the Allies won in the WW2. That's the history, just as an example, that we are believing to be the real history in this current dream. The idea of the multiverse, basically, is what I'm talking about.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm saying, this socalled "timeline" is one of the infinite probable movies consciousness can appear to itself to be.

@LastThursday @Inliytened1 yeah.

What I mean, simply, is to become another socalled universe that is coming from another history. Now don't say that history is an illusion and so forth, of course the history is an illusion, that's what I'm saying. What is right here and right now is not something, it is the form nothing is appearing being now.

The best teacher of all times ever who is very very very rarely talked about and not known very well at all is your own Inner Being, the Source of all, who you can directly tune to.

So, everyone's minds, memories, personalities and so forth are my imaginations in this moment, and nothing is actually coming from a past or whatever, but all of that is just what I'm imagining in the moment, and I can change it all anytime I begin to imagine something else? People, their thoughts, memories, minds, bodies, "worlds", etc etc etc, are all simply my imagination, literally made out of absolute nothing, of absolute void, that is who I am as the awareness, the creator, of all that is, and I'm doing that so effortlessly in "every moment" that I'm not even realizing? People, all knowledges, all behaviors, etc etc etc, are me myself, me taking a form and appearing to myself as humans and their minds and "selves" and so forth, and believing that they are something that is outside of me for sometimes I'm imagining them unconsciously, and assigning individualities etc etc etc to "them"?

This might sound way too simplistic perhaps, but I think the way you know true knowledge from false knowledge is simply by feeling for the resonance of whatever you think the knowledge to be. That's why quieting your mind might be helpful, because you then are not tripping yourself up with thoughts and modes of confusion and doubt and so forth.

Nahm was talking in the "normal human way" when it was required. To me it felt like he usually talked in a subtle way, but yeah, it probably was not helpful to newbies who are not aware that all of this, including Nahm, already is imagination, already is consciousness.

So I'm imagining people, their bodies and minds and memories and histories and so forth. Everything about everyone and their socalled past experiences and so forth are being imagined by me in the moment because there only is the moment, and there is no such thing as the past or memories or stuff and so forth. People and their characters and so forth are my imagination made actually of nothing, made of imagination. Their locations and entire existences are my imagination made of nothing, made of imagination. The entire reality and history and so forth are my made of nothing, made of my imagination. Alright. Okay. Yes. ?