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I think that you're misunderstanding a lot of what Sadhguru is saying regarding psychedelics if you believe that by themselves they will lead to quick progress, he mentions in Mystics Musings that they can be used to grow quickly if they are used as a support with a Yogic practice and in the guided presence of a Guru, not otherwise. The very nature of psychedelics is that they stimulate the energy system in a gross manner and break the mind, allowing you to experience something beyond it but never grounding your sober experience into anything subtler than the mental body, without an appropriate practice to transform your energy. He very clearly mentions that they are used as a means to purge on all levels, but that they don't lead to attaining to any kind of consciousness without the use of a system which works with the necessary dimensions of energy. They are also a huge danger in that they cause damage to the energy system, and if you do manage to break things through substances, you limit yourself heavily to that process Here are some excerpts from Mystic's Musings regarding psychedelic usage - Kriya Yoga taught by Lahiri Mahasaya and similar forms practiced by Yogananda are a means towards realization, and Yogananda himself rejected the need for Hatha yoga because he held God-realization above the need for physical purification. In this video Sadhguru describes the difference between Hatha yoga and realization - Realization and the subtlety of higher dimensions by themselves do not purify other dimensions of creation, and as a basis for grounding your higher realizations into sober experience without mentally projecting them to be the "highest", Hatha yoga and more purificatory forms of Kriya yoga are very important. Otherwise, practices like Shakti Chalana Kriya which deals with the body's Pancha Vayus and purifies the Air element, or Surya Kriya which purifies your connection to the Sun and Moon, as a means to distance yourself from the genetic information of your Father and Mother (the original parentage and source of the body's physical manifestation is the Sun and Moon), would not be necessary. The path of Pranayama and Kriya yoga as it is taught by Lahiri Mahasaya is different and directed towards realization alone Here is an excerpt from Mystic's Musings that describes the difference between a Saint, or realized Being, and a Guru - Life happens in many dimensions, and without purifying other dimensions of experience such as the five elements, or our relation to the solar system, you run the risk of exaggerating the psychological importance of realization from a gross and compulsive state in the same way that Leo does, and trick yourself into believing that it is applicable towards all of the world's and life's problems. Ayurveda, Sattvic eating, awareness of the five elements, there are many things that can help to soberly ground your realization, and Sadhguru talks about the importance of this across the board -

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The techniques that Sadhguru offers have been taught generationally since the time of Shiva, the Shambhavi Mahamudra is a part of the yogic lore outside of the Isha Foundation. Their publically offered Yoga is more holistic than kriya yoga in the sense that it is less transcendental and more purificatory, but towards the same end and at the same pace. By purifying the five elements and your physiology through classical Hatha yoga you attain to modes of realization naturally and in a sober state, whereas with transcendence you always begin from your gross and compulsive state and then attain to a level of realization, causing you to exaggerate only the crown dimension of spirituality. Potent sadhana will take you to the same places of realization more quickly by handling every dimension of the human system, making realization and knowing on the level of the crown natural and less exclusive. Potency means that your physiology is purified alongside the raising of consciousness, otherwise people will always exaggerate crown and mental realizations from the compulsiveness of the gross bodily sheathes The Shakti Chalana Kriya taught at Isha is one example of this, it causes the body's pancha vayus to recede from the body as they would at death, simultaneously dramatically purifying the system and taking you beyond the five elements with regards to realization. Approaching reality and consciousness from multiplicity is spiritually regressive, and drugs will do this to you because you're stimulating the system and approaching it from a gross and compulsive nature

It is only "radical" when you approach reality psychologically, if these experiences weren't drug-induced and setting the bar in a gross manner then saying that life is a dream would be common sense. Crown oriented understanding is only one dimension of spirituality, and people will obsess over it until the end if they don't attain to a less compulsive state outside of those experiences

@Bojan V Everything that I talked about in my post is based upon my long-term experience with the Isha Foundation. Before I committed to the practices that I have been initiated into I was on the same route of psychedelics and 5-MeO-DMT usage that Leo is on, so I understand where he is coming from and how he is limiting himself by obsessing over this dimension of things

Leo is overly focused on druglike crown and mind oriented spirituality in the sense that understanding and infinity and the complexity of consciousness seem to him to be more important than other things. Sadhguru told the story of Shiva explaining that all of reality is made up of five elements, no matter the dimension, and that he can pack the cosmos into a mustard seed if he wishes to In this article Sadhguru explains that Sahasrar is just one dimension of things In the yogic culture there are beings known as Chakreshwaras who have total mastery and command over the five elements of nature, which are responsible for all possible dimensions and realms of consciousness, Sadhguru is supposedly one of these beings and he offers practices to cleanse the five elements. Whether we talk about reality, consciousness, infinity or nothingness is irrelevant, for yogis this is common sense and impractical if we want to do things in the world in other dimensions, life is not only about living from the dimension of the Sahasrar and the experiential understanding that expanding it can bring. As Hinduism and Buddhism teach, you can reduce everything to the play of the five elements in nature and develop command over them, thereby developing command over reality at any level, so why obsess over these crown oriented experiences that you keep inducing on a gross level through 5-MeO? All that you have to do is look at common Eastern spiritual traditions and the teachings related to the five elements and the senses to understand this, exploding yourself into infinite experiences of consciousness is one aspect and dimension of things and not at all applicable to every dimension of life Leo commenting on Sadhguru's understanding of consciousness is inane and the more you look at his opinions, the more you realize that he hasn't looked into Sadhguru or the Isha foundation to any real depth, or tried any of the practices that they offer. By teaching on the internet you run the risk of crystallizing yourself in this fashion, he has an enormous lack of understanding and experience with potent yogic practices and spirituality. There is yoga far more potent than the kriya yoga available online, or anything that Leo has discussed and talked about with you here or on YouTube Don't crystallize your consciousness by obsessing over one dimension of things, it can be difficult when you stumble into life-changing spiritual content as a Westerner to break out of that comfort zone and to continue to raise the bar. Leo's understanding of spirituality is one-dimensional and mind oriented due to the nature of his progress. Do you really think that somebody like Sadhguru, among other masters, who have taken many lifetimes alongside thousands of witnesses to consecrate a form like the Dhyanalinga, and direct disembodied beings to different wombs to see this done, are not more spiritually in tune than somebody who abuses drugs to obsess over experiences of infinity and consciousness, at this point like a broken record? In Hinduism there is something called parabdha karma (present-life karma) and sanchita karma (past-life karma), the purpose of any spiritual process is to exhaust your parabdha and sanchita karma so that eventually your consciousness develops mastery over different dimensions of life, to such an extent that you have the consciousness to choose your place of birth, or to leave the body at will and end the process of life and death for good. These processes "upgrade" the human system, so to speak, into subtler modes of function, causing these dimensions of karma to exhaust rapidly and free your consciousness from gross mental and bodily compulsions. The mental body or Manomaya kosha is always the first thing to be dealt with if you're doing real sadhana, because it is the gross compulsions that exist in the form of gross mental or bodily karma which determine your sober state of consciousness Drugs always stimulate the grosser bodies and exaggerate the psychological dimension of your experiences, this is why Leo is restricting himself to crown oriented spirituality, activating the mind and the crown in a lopsided manner and retaining the same physiological compulsions when you return to your sober state will never take you beyond these experiences and mental understandings. The teachings that he's been giving are commonplace in Eastern spiritual systems and processes, because the processes taught purify your physiology and allow you to function from subtler and more holistic modes of being, limiting yourself to drugs will limit you to and exaggerate the importance of the crown and the mind in a gross manner. This is ultimately spiritually regressive, because all understanding can be reduced to the five elements as they actually exist within nature, before they have been imprinted by karmic information or experienced in their ever multiplying and infinite forms by the mind I urge all of you to look into the background of the Isha Foundation and Sadhguru properly and thoroughly, and ironically, not to rest on your laurels and restrict yourself to this grossly drug-induced manifestation of spirituality