Animal2692

Leftists won't like hearing this and they'll probably do their best to reframe it with whatever terminology they know. There was no coup or insurrection, Trump was using all his legal avenues to have the election looked into and overturned which the Constitution allows if the president or other people believe it to be a fraud. All Trump did was say to protest in DC and to fight, but was not explicit about storming the capitol. Some idiots decided it was wise to get violent and storm the capitol so the left took what Trump said out of context by censoring him which is a bigger offense since Trump is still the president..it's only a charade. The amount of hypocrisy is astounding. AOC, Omar, and Pelosi have been inciting violence by referring to Trump rallies as Klan rallies, the red hat being the new KKK hood, and Trump being a white supremacist. There is in fact no unity coming from the left when it turns around and spits on others. So called "tolerant" people are the most intolerant people out there, even Osho mentioned that before. Biden mentioned how if it was BLM storming the capitol, they would of been treated far worse. Really though? They rioted for 6 months, cops kneeled with them and they had murals painted on streets for them. Twitter currently has many accounts that have incited violence yet didn't ban. Where is the white priviledge? If a white man like Trump can get censored, imagine what will happen to you. As a result of the left politicizing what happened, Trump ended up getting banned on social media which is now backfiring hard (and rightfully so) on the left and big tech with Twitter and Facebook shares dropping as well as multiple law suits. In 2016, the left was actually talking of a coup when Trump got elected. Now there's a saying that every dog has its day just how the left is having with Biden winning and they talk about maga tears and all which is cool but at the end of the day, they're only piggy backing off the right because it was the left which started the drama with Trump winning 2016. Now the great opportunity for the right with its 75 million voters is to be a thorn in the left for the next 4 years just like the left was and resisted. In 2020, protests were good and cops were bad. In 2021, protests are bad and cops are good. The left says don't judge a man by how he wins, but by how he loses. I disagree. Absolutely judge a man by how he wins. Fighting and not throwing the towel in will always be more honorable. America is fighting for freedom, biggest joke of 2021. Hate for Trump has become a litmus test for devils.

I'm not against concepts. The reason I said earlier about what that guy said as "Just another concept" is because people use concepts as an excuse a lot and get hung up on it without using their common sense and taking context into account. Conceptually it makes sense, but intuitively, that's not how I feel about that particular situation.

Yeah I'm more libertarian than anything. I think not one ideology works by itself and we need a mix of ideologies such as capitalism and socialism. However I'm not fully libertarian, I just want less government than what we got.

Political dog whistles is just a concept like anything else. In this situation though with the capitol I think it's propaganda from the left. It's just another avenue for the left to explain what happened to fit their own narrative. Trump called for state of emergency for DC and of course the left will find a way to dismiss that as well to fit their narrative. "Oh he knew he fucked up, he's doing it to save his ass." The orange man bad cult will take that and run with it. Why? Because another reason to hate on Trump. End of the day, 75 million Trump voters going to resist these next 4 years just as the left. What goes around, comes around. There was a point where the left and right had similar goals, and only disagreed on the how. But the left has become so radicalized that the right can't relate to it anymore. That is what I see happening. The right still wants pizza and the left wants poison, and no longer pineapple on pizza.

My problem with orange and green is that it promotes globalization and central government in a way.

I'll give it a whirl.

I've made my point. It's only one point out of the millions that are out there. Everyone has their own opinion and my point can be heavily argued against and debated which is fine. I'm just saying this as a heads up as it takes a lot of energy to respond to each and every individual here every time. Is MAGA a cult? Yeah, it can be seen that way. I can also see "Orange man bad" as a cult too. So many people voted for Biden all because, "Well, it's not Trump." And they think it's valid enough. To each his own. All I can say is that with the banning of Trump, it just opened up a whole new can of worms. Hell, even Merkel from Germany said it was a bad move. There was also an article about Idaho removing Twitter and Facebook from their internet servers.

Twitter has many accounts that have incited violence which don't need to be up.

Sure you can look at it that way if you want. I look at it like sometimes people just don't understand to the point that hell, I have to show them a picture of myself with my black friends. I understand it doesn't work at times because of some things I may of said debating them on a sensitive topic so no amount of evidence of myself with other black people would help. Quite unfortunate when they emotionally shut down at that point.

I think it's just propaganda from the left to politicize it as "Trump INCITED the storming of the capitol." I don't believe any of it. There's going to be violent idiots at every protest. Do you know how many times BLM leaders have called to "keep fighting" etc.? None of them got banned by Twitter. The man's got a week left, I think this snap impeachment is nothing but a charade as a product of political outrage. For a split second we are unified in condemning the capito fiasco then it's automatically framed as "Trump caused it. His 75 million supporters are for the storming of the capitol as well." Unify the country by dividing it even more.

That's right. Without reframing, we would be stuck in our ways and limit our perspective. By the way, for anyone here who thinks I'm extreme right or alt right through what's it called...preconceived notions? I've taken the political compass multiple times and always end up near the center. Arguments can be made about the political compass test all day long but just for the hell of it, here's mine. Ben Shapiro was on the same Y axis but wayyyy further right.

Trump declared state of emergency for DC to protect it during inauguration day. I know the left totally doesn't believe it and will spin it but in my opinion, it goes to show that Trump never meant for the capitol to get stormed.

That's perfect. Having different frames of mind and perspectives is a good thing. Unity is possible only on an existential level. Any unity on the materialistic level is false unity because someone will always be left out. The paradox is that you are unique, just like everyone else. Fighting for unity is like fucking for virginity at times.

Whatever reframe helps you big man. The biggest problem with the left is their support for a central government. The Roman Empire got so big it finally collapsed for example. The UK left the EU with Brexit, good for them. Self proclaimed "stage greeners" or what have you, will complain all day that it's selfish and condemning nationalism. There is nothing wrong with some nationalism. People these days just use too much hyperbole language and equate it to Nazism and white supremacy which is really just a reflection of how ungrateful they are for their country in my opinion. More and more I've realized that fascism is around every corner only to a communist. "America first!" What! That's fascim, stage blue stage blue incoming killing us all mayday mayday. Stage blue is coming for all of us, we must raise our level of consciousness.