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@Raze Sure, there might not be scientific evidence. But you know what's better than scientific evidence? Personal experiential evidence. It's likely that masturbation doesn't affect everyone in the exact same way. But, I do know that - from my own direct experience - masturbation saps me of energy. I feel absolutely terrible the next few day and I can feel myself having less energy and having a worse mood. @thisintegrated Hahahaha oh boy.... If this advice works for anyone they'd be very lucky. I'm already bored of it. I've been bored of it for over a year. I barely enjoy it. I just do it because something feels off when I don't do it. It's a craving. @spiritual memes I feel the EXACT same way. I don't have interest in the things I used to enjoy. Where the fuck did my old self go? @Terell Kirby Yes it is. It saps me of energy, messes up my mood and motivation, and wastes A TON of time. Even taking the biggest negative effects out of the picture, the time it wastes is by itself very destructive. I could be using that time to work on more important things that produce ROI. Masturbation is the opposite of that, in fact it gives me negative ROI.

I’ve made this commitment too many times... and here I am... giving my life force away to nothing...

No. It’s always there in my mind. I just distract myself with other activities. I haven’t been horny for 2 years. I masturbate out of psychological need, not horniness. It’d be so much better if it was out of horniness but my brain has gotten addicted to the dopamine release it gives. So it’s psychological. Huh? I don’t think it’s their fault. Ultimately it was I who decided to try it out. I didn’t know any better and neither did they. @Asayake I workout but it makes me exhausted after I finish. It wasn’t like that before, I used to be energised afterwards. I’ll try yoga. Which one? Kriya Yoga?

3 fucking months later and I'm still struggling with this. I'm even worse off than I was before. I masturbate twice a day now. TWICE. A. FUCKING. DAY. It takes up 2 HOURS of my day!!!! 2 fucking hours PLUS draining my zest for life. This single addiction is ruining my life. I can't move anywhere in my life if I'm a slave to this. Imagine if I put those 2 hours in building skills, or doing consciousness work, or anything else that actually improves my life rather than make it miserable. Please, there has to be someone who has been in my current position before and has overcome it. This is such a big problem for me that I'm willing to pay to resolve this addiction.

@puporing Yes, precisely I go for walks outside and go to the gym on and off. I just always feel tired all the time. I miss having the energy to go consistently. Exercising used to be something I looked forward to. I am not consistent with it now because I'm always tired but I still try. How did you find the right thereapist? I can't find anyone to socialize with. I'm in such a negative environment and everyone around me are like crabs in a bucket trying to drag me down. I would rather be alone than be with negative people.

@puporing I think it has something to do with my gut health problems that suddenly got really bad one day. That's the thing. Masturbation is a drug. Nothing productive or 'healthier' compares to how much dopamine it produces. My dopamine receptors are desensitised. That's why I really need to fix this.

@Leo Gura So what I'm getting at here is that fear is like a neurotic trick my mind uses and it tricks me into thinking that I am being cautious when I am being delusional? When I look both ways before crossing a busy highway, I don't feel bad or good. It doesn't affect my emotions. It is a neutral act. Therefore it is wise caution. However, fears like the one I have about psychedelics is not a neutral act as it is affecting my emotions. So this is neurotic fear. Would you agree with this?

@Leo Gura How can I draw the line between healthy fears and unhealthy fears? @SgtPepper Thank you! Okay. So might not get imprisoned. However, could you be put on a watchlist if your real name and address were found because a vendor/website got compromised, for example?

@SgtPepper

@Gregory1 Even with private cryptocurrencies like XMR, you would still have to give your real name and address for them to ship them, no? What if there is a data breach of the website they are bought through or the vendor themselves are compromised? That would leak the identities of buyers, whether they bought through private cryptocurrencies or not. Or is solely the purchasing of it not a crime? In which case it would be fine if they did theoretically get exposed? @Vincent S That's true. But, for the purposes of survival (which I know is antithetical to Truth), isn't it a reasonable expectation to be imprisoned for getting caught with something outlawed?

@Gregory1 I'm not worried about them being found. I'm worried about some payment trail being traced back to me because the vendor got busted, or a website got busted and the data is breached, etc. Things like that which would leak the identity of buyers.

@Vincent S How long did it take you to overcome it? When did you reach the point where you said "I'm done wanting to be paranoid". I want to reach that point without ruining my life. I just want to improve my life. Btw did you get my dm? I don't know if it sent because I can't see my own message in my inbox.

@Gregory1 Let's say, theoretically, I do get them successfully. How would I stop being paranoid after the fact? I don't want to feel like I have to look over my shoulder for the rest of my life. @Leo Gura I don't live in US.

@Thetruthseeker That makes sense. Ty. @Chris365 I didn't specifically mention that particular one. What about things like DMT or 5-MeO-DMT? @Vincent S I will dm you.

@Leo Gura Leo, did you ever feel fearful or anxious in any way about this matter? In one of your 'How Fear Works' videos you mention how accepting the prospect of experiencing the future experience that you are resisting will relieve your fear. But why would I want to relieve this particular fear? Would I gain any benefit from relieving this fear? Sure, I may be happier and more at peace if I were completely fearless, which is what I think God truly is. But I am still playing the character of a finite human being with biases and survival needs. If my human character goes to prison, it will cause lot's of suffering. I've actually been contemplating this matter for months. Only decided to make a post about it today to gain outside perspectives because I still can't overcome this.

@Thetruthseeker That is quite expensive. What is the benefit of doing a retreat over doing it solo?

@Judy2 I don't know how I can find legal derivatives but I probably can't ask you here. Thanks tho @lmfao @pfletcha I don't live in the states. Regardless, I want to assume the worst case scenario when it comes to something as risky as this. If you don't mind me asking, what was that similarly bad thing? If you don't want to answer that's completely fine I understand.

@Chris365 Aren't there psychedelics that are outlawed in every country? LIke DMT and 5-MeO-DMT? @Thought Art What do you mean most places only charge for possession? Yeah. Of course I won't do trafficking. What do you mean by just take care? What do you mean they don't arrest you for having done something? Don't people always get arrested for 'having done something'? How can I do it legally? Aren't there only a few psychedelics that are legal in some countries?