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I dont know if she was enlightened or not. But she had some sort of realization. Could you define what you mean with enlightenment?

A female baseball player came to Adyashanti. During a baseball match she had "disappeared". Realized the nature of no self. She had no spiritual background so she had no understanding of what happened before the realization.

@Max_V First and foremost accept that there is judgments. You can't control which thoughts come and go can you? But are they true? Also you as a human being is hooked up that way. You will always prefer to feel comfortable than to feel uncomfortable. There is nothing wrong with that. Work on your judgements. Was it really a waste of time or can the "ordinary" state of consciousness be even more powerful than the higher state?

You can't know if that's true. You can say that you have only experienced it that way. But you can't know if that is true for everyone else.

@Lenny Thank you Lenny. I bookmarked it and will read about it another day. What about Rupert Spira, he is really logical in his teachings. Is he basing it on vedanta? @Russell Parr Yeah I see that it can be used to understand things like that which you are describing. However understanding it and realizing it is two different things. Understanding is mind figuring things out. Coming to conclusions and here I see logic as great tool to have. Realizing it is when it is revealed in ones experience. For example explaining how it is to see to a blind man. No matter how well you describe it. No matter how well he understands the concept of seeing, he will not be able to see.

@Lenny I've heard the word but no I don't know the meaning or practice.

Care to explain how one can use logic to get enlightened?

Wonderful! ☺

You can do well without a teacher. Just be radically honest to yourself. I listen to adyashanti myself. There is alot of information from him about the after awakening phase. There is also alot of misinformation on the internet about this so don't believe random people, including myself. ? Just be honest to yourself and you'll be fine. https://www.youtube.com/user/Adyashanti

@john5170 the mind is trying to get your attention. It will calm down, no worries.

There is still work to be done and after awakening there is alot more traps than before. It's funny that you say that the ego is separate from you because that shows you that it's not complete. You have gone from one duality to another but the truth is that there is one. My advice is find a teacher that can help you. And enjoy! ?

@The Universe Have you had a full awakening? How do you know it's full? Is waiting for some future event real? These are not questions for you to answer to me but to yourself.

For those who have a problem with a returning ego again and again after awakening. Part 1 & 2

@WaterfallMachine There are realizations all along the way and I don't think they end after enlightenment. Be aware of these two traps: Seeking trap. Searching for truth outside yourself. That means in books, videos and so on. Turn the attention inwards towards the source. I don't mean not to read books etc but those books are not the truth. They at best point to the truth. Take everything you read about it and ground it in your own experience and if you can't, forget about it! Stagnation trap. At some point you might feel like you are stagnating. You stop being interested in spirituality. You might feel like you should abandon your practice and start with a new practice in another tradition. Or you start searching for new techniques or new information. Stagnation can be progression. Certainly if that stagnation is followed with a complete stop.

Walking in the woods on a sunny day Playing with my children

World of warcraft here. But that was a long time ago.

Benefit of a quiet mind. Which is why flow is talked about in spirituality quite often.

@Dodoster I found this video. Maybe it explains it better what I'm trying to say.

No problem. I'll try again tomorrow if a good explanation comes up. Right now it's all blank. ?

That's not what I meant.

What if your whole life was like that? Completely absorbed by the moment. That this moment was all that existed. No you to ever wake up from it.

That sounds more like a flow state. Are you hyper aware of what happens in the game? Does it feel like only the experience exist without a you there? Is it a feeling of timelessness, no effort being made?

@rorghee When the frustration appears during meditation focus in on it. How does it feel in the body? Watch the thoughts that appear and disappear. Let yourself be in that frustration totally. Please tell me afterwards what was experienced.

@eskwire The trancendence is freeing in many ways but it's a birds eye view. It's like taking an elevator up to the highest point in a tower and looking down. It's detachment from everything you see down there. In one sense it is complete. You have seen truth and you will never forget that. On the other hand it's not a big trancending moment and BOOM it's done. It's a continous deepening of the realization. The elevator will start to go down and you will get a more complete view of truth. You have learned alot about spirituality and you have expectations based on them. It is only theoretical. Drop it and let the experience guide you.