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@Vision During retreats or any type of prolonged consciousness work the top layer of the egoic self tends to dissolve and that brings to the surface a lower level of self. That might feel like a regression because the lower level often involve strong negative emotions such as anger or fear. But it is a progression. It is important to let that lower level emerge and inquire what beliefs are being held at that level. That is how we progress. What can happen is that we see the as regression and bypass and surpress them because we essentially see them as wrong. And then we are back to square one with a higher level of ego that is surpressing the lower one. I know this wasn't your question. It's just a common trap that I wanted to point out.

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Isn't fear a basic human/animal emotion? It seems like a great incentive to take action. The ego would be the resistance to or grasp of feelings. It grasps that which feels good and resists that which feel bad. Resisting/avoiding fear and grasping/seeking bliss as an example.

@Gianna Could be a nutritional problem. What does your diet look like?

@Holygrail it's survival for the sake of survival. That is its highest agenda because it is the survival program itself.

@strwbrycough yes, stream-entry and up, duration about 4 years. A range of mindfulness practices, lately it's been "noting gones" that has seemed effective.

I remember when I had this realization I was staring at a tree and realized it wasn't a tree it just was. No words are true. ?

@Kalki Avatar If you just put the lid on but it's still boiling it tends to explode at some point. ? You need to investigate why it's boiling. What "bs" triggers you? What thoughts are believed. You can use a tool like Byron Katies the work to bring beliefs to the surface. http://thework.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/English_LB.pdf

The heart wants what the heart wants.

It seems to be an experiencer and something experienced until it doesn't. Then it will be experience experiencing itself or however you want to put it.

@Brandon L I usually reincarnate every morning but not before I have a cup of coffee. ?

@Mu_ Thx for the video. A nice example one could use when trying to explain this wishy-washy non duality stuff to someone who has a scientific mindset.

@meta_male I did experience the exhaustion and I think that it's a good indicator that it's going in the "right" direction.

Me neither but I think we manage to put our points across just fine. ??

Please do. I'd love to read about it. ? No-thingness. ?

Ok, where are you now on tye journey if I may ask?

Did you hold onto emptiness on your journey?

Nothing to hold onto.

And then there is only movement from and with wholeness Judgements fall away. Good and evil fall away. Heroes fall away.

@SQAAD Few are willing to let freedom go because having freedom feels good and letting freedom go feels bad. Which is the main driving force of the personal will. Letting go of freedom Into total stuckness is the way to truth.

It's not meant to be theoretical. I can see that you are in pain but I can also see that the pain is caused by believing thought. I'm not saying that this is easy. It takes work/dedication to see through it but it can be done. I've had many thoughts that caused a great deal of pain but only becaused I believed them. All it took was the willingness to let them go and the dedication to inquire into the underlying beliefs that was the cause.

That's spot on. ? They might or might not be an actuality in the future so believing that only creates suffering. The toothaste is not toothpaste it just is. The thought that it's your toothpaste is added to what is.

@Someone here Do such things exist or are they imagined?

I haven't used any psychadelics so I can't say whether it's true or not but the same can be said for what @Leo Gura buddhist no-self. The first experience of no-self is usually a glimpse that wears off after a while. A deeper one is the one where there are shifts between the self and no-self that pendulum back and forth. And abiding no self is permanent. @Leo Gura I guess what you mean about buddhist no-self is that no psychadelics has been used?

@assx95 You're trying to replicate the experience which comes from thought. Thought can't achieve that since it's only a part of experience. You are looking for that which you already are but it's impossible to find it. In a way it's a letting go of outcome and relax into being.