WelcometoReality

You can't displease God. Being afraid of hell IS hell.

A survival mechanism perhaps.

True. 🙂

Give it attention. Listen to it. Let it be just as it is.

Seems pretty far away. Maybe in 200 years or so here in Sweden if I'm optimistic. If you ever release a book of this and how to evolve todays political system towards this I'm buying it. 😁

@Leo Gura What's your political views in broad strokes?

Lao Tzu seems more right wing liberal to me in the Tao te Ching but I'm open on thoughts about that.

Yeah definitely. Someone public need to have higher standards and be able to think straight while getting their ass kicked in the comment section. 😁

Yeah mislead themselves and others. At best they can guide others up to that point but not any further. At worst.. I guess that's how cults are made. 😆

I think it's so common that I'm reluctant to point fingers to specific persons. The best antidote in my opinion is humility and openmindedness.

Doesn't (almost) everyone doing spiritual work go through this state though. We have many examples of that here on this forum.

@mrroboto Yeah beliefs are just that, beliefs. They are a mix of thought's and emotions that one identify with.

@Breakingthewall I see. Then I'll stop derailing this thread. 😁

@Breakingthewall is that a magic card in your profile pic?

Then give it all the love it needs. 🙂

@OBEler

@OBEler Probably meant as a joke.

@Nick_98 maybe it just want to be heard? Try talking to your emotion to understand it better. It is not your enermy.

Well then if you don't exist as an ego then what do you exist as?

@Asia P True but it was true all along wasnt it? Nothing has changed except you realizing it? Yet you've created meaning your whole life. Can you see the freedom in that? Freedom to create any meaning you want.

@enchanted Yeah, it does get better but it can feel overwhelming. It's about facing those fears and try not to distract yourself with other stuff. Relax those tensions in the body and just let it happen. Once we stop resisting it tends to ease up.

@AtmanIsBrahman People are conditioned that way. That doesn't impact you though. What do you want?

@Bufo Alvarius Beautiful, thx for sharing!

How do you clear muddied water? You wait until the mud settles and the water is clear again. Stirring the waters only brings up more mud and makes longer 'til it settles.

@Reciprocality There's still a sense of self it just less fixed than before. Without any sense of self you wouldn't be able to function in the world like you said. I'm not sure what you're asking? There's still an ability to focus when reading for example. There can be alot of feeling and emotions that arise at first but they tend to ebb out after a while.