WelcometoReality

Even though pure being has been realized you still find yourself with a body that is conditioned and you can still be caught by the conditioning. Acting and expressing it.

@Inliytened1 What about the conditionings in the body?

Maybe see if you can pin point the need of control to a feeling in the body?

Yes, a shift into no-self is just the first step. Then there is the seeing through of layers of conditioning in the body-mind.

So there hasn't been an awakening into no-self? Seeing it as very difficult may make it difficult. If we see it as a process and that awakening will happen whenever you are ready for it to happen might dissolve the need to control.

Yes, you can't know. You can know whether a shift has happened or not but you cant know if you will be deceived again or not. May I ask what barriers you're facing?

Have you transcended that?

It arises and is seen for what it is. Without identification to it which is believing that it is me ("it" points to a thought or feeling). And when it's seen for what it is it passes away. It's not a denial or detachment from all thoughts and feelings. It's just a seeing of the "conditioned pattern" for what it is. It's a natural process of pre-self -> self-> self-transcendence. Which brings with it a compassion for others. Awareness is the One. It's not like no one is home. It's One that is home. It's more than socially conditioned. It's the survival mechanisms that is at the root of the sense of self.

@VeganAwake The separate self is Identification to thought, feeling. Structure is a concept that points to that. When we say that the structure dissolves would be to say that identification to thought and feeling dissolves.

@Eternal Unity Wow! Thanks for sharing your wisdom.

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Seems like we are all over the place. ?

Face whatever comes up, light or dark, just let things happen.

@RMQualtrough It starts to dissolve if we don't feed it energy/believe it.

I am. Because questions are good to clarify what you are experiencing. But if it bothers you I'll stop. ? I wouldn't call it a repetition as much as an evolvement. ? Thank you for answering my questions! ?

@Javfly33 First I would advice you to get help from professionals if you do in fact have mental illness but you specifically wanted advice from a spirituality/enlightenment perspective so that is what I'll give. First I would see if there is a willingness to let go of the drama that my mind is creating. If there is I would create an exit strategy when I become aware that I am in one. Often it's just enough to just walk away or simply stop. Find out what works best for you. Sometimes there is drama created in the thoughts about oneself or someone else that is sticky. I'd find an exit strategy for that as well. It could be walks outside or meditation or simply connecting to your presence again. Then for my own wellbeing I'd set up a daily routine. I was amazed how much this benefitted me. It doesn't have to be to rigid but times when to wake up and go to bed, eating meal, doing meditation and exercise is enough. Lastly. Connect to my presence. Be present all the time. Whenever I find myself in thought connect back to presence. Use thought but when you get hooked by thought connect back to presence. The doorway is being this presence be it and magic things tend to happen. Did I say be presence? Be that which you already are. ?

@Globalcollective Not everyone wants to wake up or is ready for it. Those ready tends to gravitate towards spirituality or wake up by their own accord.

Or infinite answers to infinite questions. Even the answer that there is no answer is an answer. One that I noticed you prefer to give to all questions. ?

Not an absolutely true answer anyway. ?

@WelcometoReality The "experience" might have passed in that case it is just a memory by now. If so my question is not to be answered now but maybe it can be answered if a similiar "experience" occurs. It is more a question for you to answer for yourself than for me.

Try this and see if it works for you.

@Strangeloop But you are here to tell us about "the void"? If nothing was there would that "space" exist? Would there be someone telling us about "the void". You as the human may not be there but something (maybe not some thing) must be there?

@WaveInTheOcean Why isn't it real? And what is it that knows it is god?

@WaveInTheOcean What makes it a dream?

Yes and what knows itself as god?