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I don't see a problem with defining those as enlightenment or later on the path. I think that the teachers that are later on the path are harder to find. They probably don't hang on Youtube. ? Or they do but they don't mention the deeper realizations.

Yeah could be but those stages are usually what people go through so I hope he has a plan to help people through them.

Honestly I can't really see how you could condense it down to a course. It needs to be adapted to the students progress and hang ups.

Yes all those stories are imagined and the "you" that enlightenment happened to is also imagined. But what you are talking about is not what I would call enlightenment. It's a glimpse followed by stories. At best they start a process that will eventually lead up to enlightenment.

How do you know that?

I wouldn't say that no. I would say it's prior to imagining.

Care to explain how enlightenment is imaginary?

Yes. Fear of death is at the core of human conditioning.

Cool video. Thx for sharing.

@MihaiXx could also be bad blood circulation. How's your diet?

@Someone here It's been a pleasure talking to you. Good luck in creating the life you want and enjoy! ?

@Nilsi Yeah funny guy! Although I wonder if what's really going on in the video is stage yellow opposing stage turquoise. ?

I don't really see it as a key component. Sure you can use manipulation to make money but in essence isn't money just a tool for trading goods and services? And if you have a commodity that people are willing to buy then where's the evil in that?

@Holykael You are probably experiencing a dark night of the soul. It might seem like it never gonna end and the more you struggle and resist the longer it's gonna take to get out of it.

@MisterNobody You can't really say anything that isn't biased in some way but I get what you're saying.

Gotcha. ? Then I think you should just feel it fully.

Yeah, Awakening on the heart level can bring some pain in the torso area but might be good to get a check up just to be safe.

@MisterNobody Very profound and deep. Thx for sharing. ?

Great questions! ? I think "not knowing" is a good starting place. You become alittle more 'loose' in thinking. Your beliefs becomes more flowing than rigid. If you hold on to the not knowing that is also rigidity. You don't know, your beliefs are just beliefs but that does not stop you from having beliefs. You are aware that your beliefs are only beliefs. They evolve freely without anyone holding onto them.

What do you lose? Experience might change but isn't it something that is unchanging that is experiencing it?

@r0ckyreed If you close your eyes does it feel like you lose a part of yourself?

Do you use awakened, enlightened and self-realized as different words for the same thing. To me they mean different things. Awakened and self-realized is not yet enlightened. So awakened/self-realized still experience suffering. Pain does not equal suffering though. You can feel shitty without creating a suffering-story about it.

@Someone here Yeah I agree that pain doesn't equal suffering. Pain is feeling sensations and suffering is thought. Awakening (imo) isn't as black and white as being awake or not. There are degrees of awakeness and with that degrees of suffering that one identifies with. Depending what life your living there might be different levels of suffering. Compare an awake being living in a cave with someone like Jesus who was highly engaged in his community and also tried to change the power structures of society and being nail to the cross for it. He probably did experience suffering to a very high degree but does that mean he was less awakened than Ramana? I don't know. It's hard to say because they lived such different lives that it's hard to compare the two. What I can say is that everyone will have a choice to make after enlightenment. Whether to isolate themselves (to various degrees) to connect to source and go further onto the continuum or engage in society and embrace the love aspect of awakening.

Yes like Carl-Richard said. How high you want to set the bar is up to you of course. ?

@Something Funny Try it and see what results you get. I'm sure you'll be amazed with the results. ? Also I can recommend doing a mindfulness practice when you're off the cushion.