Godishere

You can't explain how infinity is one because of the fact that it is ONE. Whatever I use to explain it, is it. Consciousness interacting with consciousness. So raise your state of consciousness and then you can see how infinity is one. Explain to me how consciousness is not one? If you think that this is a shared dream, you're definitely not awake yet. You don't understand how deep and solipsistic the rabbit hole goes. There is no "infinity of Gods". How can anything be outside of infinity when infinity includes EVERYTHING. Infinity IS God. So, again how does one create two? By believing its own trick. It's never two. Duality is never actual, it's an illusion. So who am talking to? Myself, because time/space is not linear.

@Razard86 It's only a duality if you believe the thought to be true. How can something infinite be two unless it believes it's own trick, it doesn't make sense. I guess you could say it's separate in thought maybe? Can you elaborate?

Yeah but isn't God just playing a game here. Compassion for who? All of those qualities are just survival mechanisms for the illusory self. You're right the truth has always been and will always be here, now. But how conscious are you of that? Probably not very, otherwise you wouldn't you be trying to wake up "others". A great reason why you would avoid psychedelics is because they are terrifying and reveal the truth which you have hidden in a bunch of lies. What fun is living knowing you're it for eternity. You can say I'm parroting Leo if you want but I have experienced the truth through psychedelics many times and I know for a fact that this is a game. A very serious game which I'm also very attached to and don't want to end.

@Consilience I'm just speculating obviously. What's left to do after realizing you are one?

@Consilience because they probably want to play the "yogi" or "master" character.

@Michael Jackson fair enough, you're the minority who can handle losing your self before letting go of attachments. The average 22 year old is not ready to awaken (obviously). Also, if you were awake 24/7 you wouldn't be typing here. This is separation in actuality. What happens after you awaken? You put yourself back to sleep. That's the entire point of life.

I'm a firm believer in awakening later in life, not early 20s. Too many attachments. It's just a belief ofc. I definitely wasn't ready for eternal, non-dual consciousness. The ego needs to be weakened and surrendered over a period of time

You are eternal consciousness which sub divided itself to infinity. So you are me at some point in infinity. I am you at some in infinity. If you come and punch me in the face, you are punching yourself in the face at some point, in infinity. Human solipsism doesn't exist, it's just a conceptual construct to explain what Infinite consciousness is doing. I.e it's a thought

How much do you meditate? Do you workout frequently? It just sounds like a bunch of negative thoughts from this perspective. I've definitely had that before after tripping though, a dissociative loss of self. It caused panic attacks. I think mindfulness meditation and just being in nature could help. Maybe even putting down spirituality for awhile.

@amanen yeap. God damn infinity is terrifying. When you actually experience it for the first time in "your" life.

@Someone here agreed. I lean towards that God has split it's mind into a million pieces. Still One mind and still Non dual. Makes perfect sense.

So why does everyone believe they are the one "true" dreamer. I think that's his point here.

If we want to be logical and explain the unexplainable, one infinite mind which has divided itself into a million pieces. If we want to be honest, we don't know. Non duality just points to whatever is appearing is not two. God Realization is the comprehension of how you're doing it (one appearing as two). Both are true IMO. What's your thoughts?

Leo, I have a difficult time accepting the fact that I'm God and that I'm sovereign. In your experience, is it my Will that I want to create the illusion of other so strongly, I create all of you as conscious humans I live out in eternity? For example, I message you, and in my next life I, Leo Gura message Godishere? Or is it just literally you are imaginary end of story and I'm waking myself up.

What is the correlation between these two? I've often heard here that anxiety/fear is just a distorted version of Love. Why after so many awakenings do I feel so much anxiety around people? Like why would I do this to myself? Does anyone relate? It's probably the reason I, and most got into spirituality in the first place right? To end suffering. I feel fragile, shame, and sensitive when I'm around others and struggle to be my authentic self. People can get under my skin very easily. Does everyone struggle with this? Do I need to awaken deeper? Meditate more? Accept that I'm just wired this way? It's gotten to the point where I just want to awaken and be done with it. Is this God's way of waking myself up?

Sure I can get behind that, from a specific state of consciousness. But what about now, when I move my hands, there is causation.. action/ reaction. I can't just will myself into a DMT like state of being. Life has consequences. Whether I believe thoughts or don't, if I slap my boss in the face, life probably isn't going to go the way I'd like.

How do you undo the neurotic feelings and thoughts that accompany them after a lifetime of living a certain way though? The feelings feel.. automatic, reactive, uncontrollable. Why would God do this?

Yeap exactly the real enlightenment is the recognition there is no self, or the recognition the self was an illusion as you say. When you see that what you are is actually awareness and what it's aware of you get it. The recognition is always there but is overlooked in thought content

@Someone here what he means is that when you awaken you will see that nothing ever happened. As painful and as real as it seems, life truly is a dream. Literally. So why he says it isn't real, it's because from God's POV it only exists in imagination. When you become so aware of what's actually happening RIGHT NOW, it's completely obvious. When it happened to me, It was like I had one foot in the dream and one foot outside. You see clearly for the first time how God creates self and "other". When I message you, it's just myself replying in my next or previous dream. It's our bias to survive which prevents us from discovering the Truth.

@Matthew85 he's speaking relatively. Relatively we are separate. Absolutely we are one. And by relative, I mean the false self. We are all relative, separate beings that share the same Self/awareness.

Never done any DMT, but have had full God Realization on many LSD trips. 30 trips, all around the 100-200ug mark. During the peak of my experiences, I do remember thinking that it wouldn't matter the chemical because they are all imaginary anyway. I feel like LSD slowly leads you there until boom, you're just melting in love. How people don't realize themselves as God on LSD is beyond me.

Contemplation and self inquiry while tripping. If you trip enough, you are pretty much guaranteed to awaken.

If there truly is no free will, LOA doesn't really make sense. The Absolute will just dream whatever it wants and unfold however it wants. The LOA is just waking up to whatever IS.

There's survival and there's truth seeking. Truth seeking can be another mechanism for survival in my opinion. However, as you get closer to the flame of God, you realize quickly the Truth is the end of survival and thus death. Death of identity. Ego is identity, thought attachment. Once you are left with no needs you realize what you essentially are is consciousness itself, unbounded selfless, eternal. Needs to belong and survival are of the finite, fictional character that consciousness cosplays as to have duality and a self (the dream). If these needs were not so strong you would awaken.