Water by the River

Make it harder. Ever considered making it harder?

Here he is referring not to Leo/gross level of reality (this world), but to higher subtle/lower causal states where manifestation works like that. From the perspective of Reality/"God", if one is inclined to call it that) it works indeed like that. And as Leo also already found out, it doesn't work on the Leo-Level of Indras Net like that, or else the million dollar would already be on the bank-account. Or why the camera didn't capture the Alien: Because the totality of Indras Net overpowers with its will/manifestation/imagination-process the will of the little Leo-Node in it. When one becomes (Unity-state) the whole net of Indra, of course one wants exactly what Indras Net (the manifested Totality of Infinite Consciousness) wants at this moment: This world manifested/imagined exactly as it is(!), with strigent laws of manifestation (physical, biological, psychological, spiritual/Karma and so on) with no million dollar on the bank account by wishful thinking. And if one would still want the million dollars (egoic arising), one wouldn't be in a Unity State with Indras Net! It is just one huge assumption that these insights and higher subtle/lower causal states (Union with the Totality of Indras Net) can not be had on the meditation/mystic path. Or in a more pure/impersonal way on the psychedelic path when combining it with more ego/separate-self transcendence/meditation. Why? Because Absolute Reality is IMPERSONAL, or in other words PURE Infinite Consciousness/Awareness. It is these ego/separate-self arisings/filters/lensen that kill the awakened nondual state in normal sobre-ego-state, and it is these filters/ego-lenses that get mostly lifted (not totally) in the psychedelic state, and on top one gets the nondual infinite experiences/states, and many Awakenings n+1 of all different kinds. All disfigured and partly misinterpreted by these last remainings lensens/filters of ego/separate-self in the psychedelic experience. All of that also has the hallmark of confusing remaining separate-self/ego remains/lenses with Impersonal Pure Consciousness/Reality itself (the higher subtle, lower causal levels (Indras Net) and Impersonal Infinite Consciousness itself). Why? Because with psychedelics one gets these states "for free" without paying the "normal" price of ego-transcendence before. So of course one perceives all of these states through the lenses of the not completly transcended ego. And one doesn't even "see" or realize this lense of perception, because one is still identified with it, sees "through" it. Because if one would be aware of that, it would be already gone&transcended. And that is why Leo totally sincerly makes the claims he does. He can't see the lenses that block nondual awakened states sobre, and he can't see these lenses through which he interprets all of these state-experiences and Awakenings. And that then results in the Infinity of Gods Videos, which sould have better been called an Infinity of God-Egos. The last ego/separate-self mechanisms/lenses/filters are extremely subtle and hard to spot. Very subtle arisings that are formless (not coarse thoughts or feelings) and create the illusion that one is not already all of Reality. It takes a long time in certain awakened nondual states to get rid of these towards Pure Impersonal Infinite Nondual Consciousness. It is these subtle arisings that don't let one see (or bask in) the True Absolute State of Awakened Infinite Nondual Reality in the first place in sobre states. Selling (Impersonal/Pure Awareness) Water by the (Infinite Impersonal) River

Perfectly. The Infinite Intelligence that constructed the former illusory separate-self now runs the show. The small separate self just gets out of the way. The Intelligence of Reality itself can run the show on a relative level way better when the filter/distoration of the separate-self-illusion (of being not the whole Enchilada but only a separate-self fragment in it) is gone. At least my experience. Besides, one gets for the first time a real shot at cutting off the negative emotions that regularly arise as a necessary building block of any separate-self (to keep it busy chasing experiences to get good emotions to easy the suffering/bad emotions, aka as keeping the illusion going). Imagine you could just produce your own bliss by resting in a nondual impersonal uncontracted state of awakened awareness, and just let the relative self do its job/daily life without interfering? Runs by itself, way better than before. I believe it is way better to have ones relative life sorted out (as much as possible) before crossing over. The chance is high that crossing over will only happen when the relative stuff is more or less sorted out and handled. And the separate-self is not squeaking in suffering all the time because its lower levels of manifestation (emotional needs, safety needs, job, relationships and so on) are more or less sorted out. One tends to continue exactly as before on a relative level/habits, but the fear-driven motivations drop away. Imagine that you needed fear-driven emotions before to keep your relative life going, and not doing it out of self-actualization. Then there can be quite some havoc if the fear-based-motivations (like fear of loosing job or fear of being lonely) drop away. Or: The cave. Or Eckhart Tolles 2 years on a park bench. I prefer an integrated life. Not that Enlightenment needs it. After waking up from the dream, one can still have a lucid nightmare or a beautiful lucid dream.

"General" Omniscience in knowing what the essence of everything, and what anything possible is and ever could be, yes. Knowing the gold of the ring,. Specific Omniscience in knowing everything thats going on in all perspectives of Indras Net, or knowing all rings: Even Leo said "genereal" Omniscience instead of specific omniscience. Leo never claimed omnipotence as Leo. Well, not yet, as far as I know. God/Reality/Absolute is omnipotent, not anyones relative self. God could be considered as the "sum total" of all beings/persepctives/nodes of Indras Net (the manifest side of Infinite Consciousness/Absolute) and its essential unchanging essence of Empty Impersonal Groundless Awareness (the unmanifest Side of Infinite Consciousness). But here we already are on slippery conceptual/duality terrain. No single node/perspective/being in that is omnipotent. Sure any being can (correctly) claim to be the Totality (which it is at its ESSENCE), but the standard move of declaring/confusing "Ego/separate self/node in Indras Net = God" and declaring that omniscient and omnipotent doesn't work. Or: Nietzsche: God is dead. God: Nietzsche is dead. That always ends in (solipsistic) Narcissism and suffering.

Getting fully enlightened. Leos God-Realization, but on a sobre full-time basis. And without all these unnecssary concepts of AWAKENING n+1 on top. Just realizing and BEING Reality itself. See the link of the Supreme Source above (or below), which even Leo confirmed as God Realization in the post later. Although he probably regrets having done so in the mean-time. You know, ONLY AWAKE(TM) being on the planet. see this post: But maybe even God-Realization(TM) has been updated in the meantime... (Still) Selling (the same) Water by the River

Necessary in a way that one would be pretty stupid or narrowminded/dogmatic to not use these psychedelics tools nowadays (with all we know, and with the lovely stuff pioneers like Shulgin developed). But not necessary in a way that can't be done without, because thousands of humans in history have done it without psychedelics. Potent tools, and nearly all potent tools have dangers attached to it, see my long post above. And the more potent the tool normally the more dangers coming along with it. And for the Buddhism-allergies of some participants of this forum ... (this comment is not directed to you Loveeee. Like the name btw ( : Crowley, Secret Drugs of Buddhism: Psychedelic Sacraments and the Origins of the Vajrayana Here we have in essence something quite similiar to the psychedelic path Buddhist style (although lots of meditation still involved, and also love&compassion&Boddhichitta teachings, which are nothing than a safe-guard along this dangerous path to not fall into ego-inflation, which is a no-go at the Gateless Gate). This psychedelic path was pushed in the Vajrayana movement mainly at the end of the first millenium CE in India by the so called Mahasiddhas which also pioneered Tantra. To free their minds, they essentially did everything that was forbidden purity-wise in the society of Brahmin-India of the time: practice in charnel-grounds all kinds of colourful stuff while tripping, transcending most of the current laws of society, and so on. A dangerous path, better not walked without a realized Guru, and in later forms of Vayrayana (like Tibetan Buddhism) moderated quite a lot (monasteries of tripping nuns & monks didn't work so well, bad PR and so on). And they have left pretty similiar descriptions of Alien Realms, like the Supreme Array Sutra. https://www.psychedelicsangha.org/paisley-gate/2019/5/8/the-supreme-array-scripture-a-psychedelic-stra-for-buddhist-psychonauts-pp3zz Or for God-Realization, the Supreme Source (although that is more Dzogchen, but written not much later than the events above) Yet, humanity has the tendency to reinvent the wheel, and beat its own hand while hammering it. Wer nicht von dreitausend Jahren Sich weiß Rechenschaft zu geben, Bleib im Dunkeln unerfahren, Mag von Tag zu Tage leben. Johann Wolfgang Goethe

Due to the legal status of these things in this country here, and my professional licences, I have to leave you with the "guess" and no clear answer on this public forum here. But a nice, interesting and colourful shirt, isn't it?

I wasn't specifically asked, but allow me this comment: BOTH, meditation and psychedelics, is probably the fastest path for most. But there are dangers, and an obvious danger ist downplaying the meditation-part, or getting ego=God delusion via psychedelics. Psychedelics give the nondual awakened states for free (and a lot of other stuff), without much emptyting out the separate-self/ego-mechanism towards the Impersonal/Pure Awareness side. And Reality/True Self is Pure Impersonal Awareness. With meditation, before one gets to nondual awake states, the separate-self is already emptied out ~95%+. One already is very(!) proficient cutting each and any thought/feeling arising of the separate self/ego, and any other concept/thought on top of that also. And the awakened states still get hijacked by the remaining 5% ("enlightened person"), but there is much less potential for ego=God inflation because there is less of it left in the first place than on the mainly psychedelic path.

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Very true. What Leo doesn't get - and will not get until he is truly fully enlightened (which will probably need some major humbling down/character change and meditation practice, and for starting that probably some really major suffering): In Full Enlightenment: it is understood (or available all the time) how the complete(-!-, each and any possible) illusion is constructed and what its essence is (oneself, Suchness). What the essence of each and any illusion-mechanism is. He thinks the enlightened beings "tell" themselves the story that they are enlightened, or have thought arisings like that.. and are still deluded doing that. Which of course is a joke for an enlightened being, because all of that blabla is seen as object-thoughts floating in ones Infinite True Self, besides which nothing can exist. Exactly that is the pre-requisite for Full Enlightenment. That all concepts, I-thoughts, I-feeling float in ones True Self, and is not who one really is. Not as idea, but as actual deep realization & reality, that holds in daily life and sobre states. INCLUDING that realization/understanding and its elaboration (if the thought-elaboration of that realization/understanding) happens. It comes with actual nondual states in which the boundlessness/infinite nature of Reality, and its character as mere appearance of any possible object/arising/thought/feeling/world is vividly clear as arisings/manifestations in ones True Infinite Self. Which is ones own TRUE BEING, which is realized by first BEING it (impersonal,nondual, infinite, mere appearance), and then asking/Koan what is "beyond" that/what is that/what is aware of that/what is constant in all of that. But Leo can't understand that, because he doesn't have these states sobre with impersonal empty awareness, but only with psychedelics where remnants of the separate-self are still active as lenses/filters/centers/identities. These prevent Full Enlightenment. On the classic path of meditation one only gets to these nondual states by already severely emptying out the separate-self/identity towards being largely impersonal/empty. And the rest gets kicked and emptied out in these nondual infinite awakened states. That doesn't happen in psychedelic nondual states to the same high degree (magnitudes lower), and that is why the true (nondual and so on) Awakenings later get hijacked by ego. One gets the nondual states for free without paying the empty/impersonal/ego-transcendence price. And that backfires... He truly believes that a full enlightened being has falling for the delusion of identifying/thinking of himself as enlightened. Which indeed would be a delusion, and that often happens after some smaller enlightenments. Thats the true part to the story (nobody is smart enough to be wrong all the time). With Full Enlightenment, it is absolutely clear that this move is one more idiotic delusion-mechanism ("the enlightened person") on top, and even that has to go. Together with each and all mistaken identity/I-thought/I-feeling arisings. And THAT understanding/realization is final. It brings bliss, peace and freedom from fear. It shows ones true immortality, and the essence of each and any (alien-, n+1) realm. And that essence is Ones True Self. There is no other, in any and each realm, never possibly could be. That is all manifestation/relative stuff/mechanisms/realms. There also was no one really confused and ignorant, just the illusion-arising of that happening. There CAN'T be any other higher Awakenings/Realizations than that. Only more Awakenings/Insights into more understanding of manifestation mechanisms of various realms, or these (alien for example) realms themselves. Of which there is (the bummer) an Infinity of them. Which God is exploring. Forever and ever and ever. And Leo has hijacked Gods job of doing that (as a mere mortal), has become addicted to it to ease his suffering, and is now suffering for ever more of that wonderful blissful Awakenings (they are beautiful, but still passing) in a grasping way. And selling this as path to salvation. Bravo, well done! Instead of chasing Porsches, Yachts and Villas, we chase AWAKENED STATES and understandings into Alien Realms, N+1. I would have no problem with him doing that for himself until wising up. But he is promoting and selling this to partly young & vulnerable beings which risk crashing their life on a relative level (education/professional career/friends/relationships) by doing unhealthy transdence (grasp for the higher + dislike/disassociate/neglect from the lower levels of being = opposite of healthy development which is defined as transcend and include and integrate, and not transcend and disassociate/dislike/hate (the relative, including humanity) and no integration - anybody seen this with Leo?!). That is the direct path to sick development, instead of healthy development/growth. So, then some little predictions from my side: The enlightened ones will never change their position on these points of Full Enlightenment. Because a) self-evident and b) final. And apparently a few ones are already haunting this lovely forum. Leo will probably not accept that until he himself is fully enlightened, or being severly humbled by suffering. Since he is not even aspiring or keeping the possibility of Full Enlightenment in an open-minded way (which is the cardinal sin in spirituality), he will go chasing higher Awakenings until being severely humbled up, probably by severe suffering & crash burn. Or he will just continue in grasping, seeking and suffering ways for ever higher Awakenings, and act the "lovely" way he does as ONLY AWAKE BEING on the planet. And just act more or less narcissistic and inflate his Ego as God. Like in ONLY ONE AWAKE ON THE PLANET, instead of the less insane (but also illusory) MOST AWAKE of everyone he knows of. He needs to belittle Full Enlightenment to keep his perspective of the superiority of ever more AWAKENINGS n+1 going. Which is a fulminant cul-de-sac preventing further growth towards real impersonal (non-narcicisstic, non-ego) Full Enlightenment. And its not the first time that the psychedelic-only path has been tried. It never worked. Here is Ken Wilbers comment on it: "The downside comes with people that only use psychedelics or drugs and I found that over the years they just become mean. That if somehow it just kind of closes them down. It's like you keep doing it and you keep doing it you keep doing it doesn't quite cause the transformation it can cause a peak experience but generally not a transformative experience". Sounds familiar? Water by the .... River!

I don't disagree with what you write. Language gets very slippery here, and it depends on the individual definitions of the words. okay, so lets go through it: Anything that exists is supported by "metaphysical love" in the very fact of it's existence.: Agree And you don't experience non-existence, you just experience a lack of qualia, which is possible: Agree You might just be using the term Love differently, but it does not spawn or radiate from anything, because that is describing a process. It is just everything always. This is the metaphysical Love Leo points to.: Agree. As soon as there is any manifestation, there is love. I consider non-manifestation to be simply a specific state of consciousness like drinking a cup of tea.:Agree It is just a state of consciousness which is mystical and lacks all qualia, which makes it easier to see what you are: Very much agree But it's not that "Love" stops existing there, because it is still something experienced.: partly agree, there are states where experience stops The experience of 0 qualia is not non-existence, it is an experience of nothing. The experience of a lack of qualia is itself a manifestation that consciousness becomes.: Here language gets slippery. I know what you mean, but I wouldnt write it that way. But its fine. There isn't a "first manifestation" because that creates a duality of something that isn't manifested.: Agree I believe good pointers to the Absolute are pointers that avoid confusing the Absolute with anything, because then the mind will try to make an object or arising of whatever form out of it.

For the Totality/Wholeness of the Absolute and Manifest aspect: The gold (Absolute) and the ring (manifested side of the Absolute/arising/appearance) made out of gold metaphor. It is a Infinite Unity and Totality. Always gold, but the ring can appear or be gone. The nature/essence of the ring is gold. But not the other way round. And for equating anything with the Absolute (and not with its manifest side or potential): The Absolute is truly Infinite. It is neither this nor that, not even love. It is beyond it all. It couldn't be any different. It is your true BEING, but not what you think your being is right now. Realize it, then you will understand. The Absolute is beyond it all. If you would understand it, you would be enlightened right now. It can't be communicated in words. Once you start intuiting/realizing it, it will be totally clear. Where was unconditional love in deep sleep? Before your birth? After your death? These are all Koans that pointing directly to your truly Infinite Absolute Nature, which is literally right here right now, but covered under a myriad of clouds of mistaken identities (thoughts/feelings). These Koans have a very clear answer, just not one that can be carried with words and language/duality. A good approximation is: The Absolute is both totally empty (undescribeable) and also infinite potential. The Infinite Potential contains the potential for unconditional love, expressed then in the manifested side of the Absolute/Infinite Consciousness. But that is already to much concepts. The referent of the signifier must be there: Realization of the Absolute in an awakened state. That is then called Enlightenment (the full&final one). Sorry, language ends somewhere here. Maybe one more idea/metaphor: The blind men describing the elephant: One says its a hose, one says a trunk, and so on. The facets of Awakening. If the elephant is the manifested side of consciousness, then the whole (infinite) elephant has love as its essence so to say. Because fundamentally it is a nondual Unity. And where there is an other, there is fear (Upanishads somewhere). And if there is no other (nondual infinite unity), there is only love. And the Absolute would be the spaceless locationless unmanifest (no body, center, location, anything. FULLY EMPTY) Awareness of the elephant, "seeing itself", but also in nondual union with it. The gold from the ring-metaphor and the elephant the ring. And if the elephant is zapped out of existence, the Absolute Awareness is neither aware of the elephant, nor (and that is important) of itself. There is no time, no space, no nothing. But the POTENTIAL for sentience/awareness. Unaware of itself. But as soon as the elephant arises/manifests again (with love as its essence, see above), Absolute Awareness "sees" again - love. So it can only manifest as metaphysical love so to say. And now make elephant infinite (no boundaries) limitless... And there can only be love! Yet the Absolute can not be defined with love (only). Not even with (Self-)Consciousness/Awareness, since that doesn't happen when nothing arises/manifests. But with potential for Awareness if something arises. And since the separate-self-contraction is perfectly capable of clouding over the original state of infinite love&bliss (resulting from nondual infinite unity, aka "no other"), instead of doing all these metaphysical conceptual word-games, it would be better to sit down and practice cutting off the mindstream with all its illusion-arisings of the separate-self-contraction. And become empty nondual infinite impersonal Awareness itself. Then love will flow freely anyway, which is all that counts. Ok, now a Zen-Master or two are probably going to kill me....

The statements mentioned are all correct. It refers to the Manifested Side of Infinite Consciousness/Absolute, or appearance/arising/form. And that can be called existence. From my perspective, no contradiction anywhere. These views can all be integrated.

Yes. Neither the Manifest Side nor "the" Void/Emptiness (mainly used as terms for states) is the Absolute. The Absolute is beyond both.

Sure, but it clearly shows you what is Absolute (or fundamental, or Reality itself) and what is just a temporary arising within it (as it of course, but still within it). It clearly shows (or makes one realize and understand) which is eternal, omnipresent, timeless, changeless, infinite. And that is how you can define Reality, or God. In other words: It shows what is always there, and can not not be there. Which funnily is also the True You. Metaphysical love: Lets do a thought experiment like the following: When nothing arising, you don't know that you exist. Deep Sleep. Yet you are. You reappear every morning. So even a very subtle (self-)consciousness is an arising IN Reality. That becomes very clear once having had these states in meditation. So when anything at all, however subtle arises, a "you", a consciousness "of" can appear. Or just the colour red for example, without self-consciousness (in an animal for example). But it arises and is being "awared". That is manifestation/arising. And as soon as there is red (or any other arising for that matter), there is also underlying fundamental love. Because the reality in which it arises, that which arises, and the Awareness of it is a Unity, and love is the opposite of division/duality. It is the intuition, experience, and pull back of/from this underlying nondual Unity. The Totality pulls all beings with that love back home to their True Being. And that is why love is as fundamental as any other of the first manifestations occuring in the Infinite (like space, time, first forms/archetypes of manifestation). How that works in practice: Feel in certain empty awakened states into an appearance, and use something like the Koan "what is this really". The answer will be something like you & light of Reality & love. But that is not the fundamental Infinite Absolute. The Infinite is really fully infinite or empty, or not definable. It is YOU. And YOU can't "see" YOU as an object. The eye can't see itself. Everything you see is illusion-arising-manifestation IN True You. At that point you have fully realized how "you" (small y) can be fully switched off in deep sleep and yet True You (capital y) still be there as the Absolute Infinite. That realization is a beyond a mere conceptual-insight, and can't be fully explained. It is a realization which can only be had in infinite boundless nondual mere appearance awakened states, and then asking what is "beyond" that, or what is True Me. You have to BE it, and then ask yourself what IS it. And then "you" or It can realise itself, but only out of this certain states. But that you is not a thought. That you already has to be the Totality in a nondual way. And to get to these states, you need a lot of training in getting an empty mindstream and cutting off each and any blabla concept in the mindstream. Psychedelics get you to these nondual states, but its not empty/impersonal enough to realize what is "beyond" that. And then one confuses the Totality of Manifestation with the Infinite Absolute Unchanging Timeless beyond. The real realization is a very clear and simple answer, a direct realization, without any FURTHER or beyond or n+1. And it is not a fundamental reductionistic baseline, because it is the Realization of Reality itself, and of realizing the essence of every arising in it. General Omniscience so to say. Not the content of all realms, but the essence/suchness/substance of every possible manifestation. In other words, of anything possible at all. That is why its final, and why Osaid said that once the Ultimate Truth is realized, its done. Everything else is just content/manifestation/realms: Fun to explore, but why grasp & suffer doing it? God is doing the evaluation of its endless potential anyway, and will never(!) run out of worlds/realms to explore (remember, its infinite). And God is doing a better job at it with more grace than currently Leo, who does this clearly in a grasping and suffering way. But declaring that project higher than realizing Ultimate Truth. A perfect recipe for suffering: Declaring/confusing the lower (Manifested Side of Infinite Consciousness) with the higher (Absolute, totally empty and infinite at the same time, without opposite). Ok, back to love: So love is so fundamental that as soon as any manifestation arises it is there. One could say that the Absolute is love. But on the other side it is not, since the Absolute can be without any arising. So its a question of what is more fundamental. And since the realization of this Absolute is the all deciding "point", a pointer saying the Absolute is love is rejected as a non-efficient pointer by most enlightened persons. Yet, it is a very difficult topic, because one could validly say that the Absolute is maybe not love, but its first manifestation is love, the essence of any manifestation is love, the essence of any possible world is love, love is what got the whole game going and what makes the Universe evolve back to its source, grow in complexity so that it can realize its own Unity in the form of enlightened beings. And in practical daily life, as we have heard thousands of times before, all that matters is love. That is true! The only remark is: To fully love all the time, the separate-self-contraction has to be fully transcended, since it keeps the game going with unloving periods, and its "projects" chasing experiences to get back the love/bliss. Selling Water by the River PS: And the realization that you can not not be there, even if unaware in Deep Sleep: That is really coming home, You can NEVER loose yourself, and never did. The world becomes home, all separate-self-contractions that were the essence of "un-love" or "masked" the natural and inherent flow of love stop, the underlying infinite Unity becomes apparent, and the mindstream becomes love & bliss. For some, even divine/celestial perception showing how universal consciousness rolls out reality starts, like Harri Aalto or David Buckland for example. That is where Leo thinks he is the only one exploring these realms with psychedelics, but that is wrong. Life then becomes the celebration that its meant to be. And that is not the "end" of Enlightenment, but just the start of all which comes after, this life and the following ones. Each being expresses this realization differently, since individuality as separation gets lost, and not individuality as being/mindstream. Each one will express his/her enlightened love differently.

For the first part: I am pretty proficient in cutting off each and any concept (including "human spiritual horseshit") in my mindstream until NOTHING remains. Or everything, in a nondual, non-conceptual and vividly clear, empty and blissfull mindstream. Which feels wonderful btw. And I say that because Absolute Truth allows one nice thing: To stand in it, even if the whole world would speak against it. It is self-evident Absolute Truth. Always right here, right now. Actual experience and non-conceptual realization vs. human spiritual horseshit. Not a concept, but an actual Realization. For the second part: That is a rationalization to go the easy path. I challenge you to practice the Love you preach as Absolute, and endure other perspectives without lashing out. And a recommendation: As long as you are alive on this planet (and you probably won't go anywhere else before you die), it would be a smart choice to at least keep one foot in this reality here and not despise it and its two-legged-inhabitants. The majority of them won't grow up spiritually in our lifetime, so its a smart choice to accept that fact in a mature & loving way. For ones own health & wellbeing for example, and to not have an autoimmune-allergy against the environment/ones own Reality(!) one lives in and manifests.

That is the toxic disfunctional fallout of a path addicted to experience and Awakening n+1. Health= functional fit many levels of exchange of this reality (food, emotional, economic, mental, spiritual and so on).

Stand in your Truth. If your Truth is self-evident, you can't be gaslit about it. Absolute Truth is always right here right now self-evident for an enlightened being. And for the annoying part of those who don't agree: Practice the love you proclaim as Absolute.

I agree on all you write here. Why I emphasize the way I do? Because to realize the Absolute (which is always here) you have to understand and realize what is permanent. And all manifestation can be switched off, and the Absolute is still here. All of the stuff Leo talks about can be switched off, and the Absolute is still perfectly fine, like nothing ever happpened. Manifestation/form is also Truth, and has the Absolute as its essence, is contained in it. The ring made of gold. But also for most beings also contains ignorance-arising of a mistaken identity, a separate-self. It is easier to identify these illusion-arisings (which are of the manifested side) when it becomes clear what is the permanent/timeless/always here Absolute. Saying the Absolute is the manifest is true, but it contains the manifest, expresses itself through the manifest. But normally with that also all ignorance/illusion and all the stuff that prevents Enlightenment, because its very subtle false identity. And that is the dangerous thing with equating the manifest side with the Absolute, because there is also the permanent always here core of it. That easily gets overlooked then, but is the essence of it. Technically and philosophically, the Absolute is that which is always the case, omnipresent, the only Reality there is without a second. And unchanging. And funnily its the core of every being, including you. And that doesn't change. Your "cloths" change (realms you manifest, including your current separate-self/body/mind), but you not.

If you stand in Truth, and ARE Truth, the rest of the world including all "others" can do whatever they want. Why does that disturb you? There really are no others? Sorry, but when Absolute Truth is at ones fingertips, always here, and self-evident by just reaching out, one doesn't need validation of anyone, anything, any -ISM. Then you can truly stand on your own feet, in your own true freedom, and need no confirmation and validation at all. What you write above is a rationalization, and a dangerous one. Stand free in your Truth AND love/openness/acceptance of this reality. Not by lashing out on others/other views to reach "orbital velocity", but by openness of your own heart & love to hold all these differing views in YOU, in the Reality that you truly are, without contracting. That is why love/compassion/boddhichitta is such an important practice in any spiritual tradition. Don't you think that the whole world already "gaslits" an enlightened being 24/7 all day every day in daily life, and it doesn't ever matter? Love and compassion is what stabilizes this Realization and its Awakened States, not lashing out against other closed minds. They are all the children of your Being, no matter how less-than-smart they behave & think. Not being an oak yet is not a sin of the acorn. Although I understand you from a human level, that is what is demanded as a price for True Enlightenment and Realization: Stand on your own, in your Truth, as Truth, and LOVE all of Reality, and also for those who think different than you! You can't stabilize Awakening & love any differently. One is totally alone then, but also everything in a total and infinite way, with more love flowing than necessary to endure that "aloneness" there, if done correctly. Yet, you can never be alone then, since that which can be alone and unloving is gone then. Having said that, despite all my criticizm on certain views of yours: On a deep level you truly have my sympathy, as doing what I describe above and standing alone Truth as Truth and keeping the heart open is among the most daring tasks any being can endeavour towards.

Agree. But there are states where the light is just switched off. No manifestation AT ALL, including love. As soon as manifestation arises again, its back. The only reason I emphasize getting every concept/idea/whatever away from the Absolute is: all of that prevents its realization. You have to throw away/cut off each and every (subtle) concept/feeling/whatever to realize it. Including all you thought you were before. Then you have a chance of realizing it, in a non-conceptual, empty and impersonal and nondual/infinite state free of all the delusion of dual/conceptual thinking. You have to be IT. And IT is infinite, impersonal, silent, groundless. And Reality itself. And from IT radiates love. But that is already form/manifestation.

You think that this approach never happened in Buddhism? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahasiddha These guys broke every norm in the book to get to realization, both society-norms and buddhist norms. They broke every buddhist convention to free their minds. And they did lots of psychedelics. Crowley, Secret Drugs of Buddhism: Psychedelic Sacraments and the Origins of the Vajrayana And since that time, some Buddhist branches (Vajrayana ones, the Tibetans for example) know the dangers of that path, and its potential. You wouldn't believe what gets actually practiced & told in secrecy in some of these traditions to advanced practitioners. But not to the masses, due to the bad Karma that would cause. But what is always in highest priority, even in these paths, is love and compassion. That is universal.