Preetom

@tsuki There is a person that gets washed and fades into nothing tough

Holy hell 'I' am only cluster of 2nd hand knowledge and derivatives But as Leo says there is no other way as God is one

@AlwaysBeNice A fella from Bangladesh here. Do some research and you'll find that Bangladesh was one of the top 5 countries which created the maximum opportunity for the rich to become richer last year. At what cost? The cost is that the poor are getting poorer. You'll find few countries in the world with this much income inequality. Even the rich people in 1st world countries don't have that much leeway to get richer. Every sector from banks, industries and business is being more and more monopolized by the day. So the consequence of that is over 95% jobs are skewing towards wage slavery. This is becoming the only way to earn and live in a capitalistic society. The exploitation has been so easy on top of that due to the fact that almost all people of Bangladesh are in low stage blue. They don't even realize what precarious situation they are in. Working 15 hours a day at sweatshops has become the norm here. No one even bats an eye.

@moon777lighttl I'd second that. Expect the next 3 months to be grueling work. I heard David godman saying that the purpose of self inquiry is not peace. Its purpose is to destroy the subject. As you are new to this, search for the perceiver. It doesnt matter what thought or emotion arise. Phenomena has absolutely no significance in self inquiry. The vision of an angel is as insignificant as a scratch on the back in self inquiry. Try over and over no matter how many times you fail or wanna pull your hair off. Let your 1st breakthrough come through a spontaneous collapse of that effort. Trust me it'll happen within few weeks if you are vigilant. And remember what Leo assured! "You dont have to figure this stuff yourself. Thats the beauty of it" Dont be clever or try to outsmart yourself with sneaky arguments. Just sincerely search for the perceiver, that which you call 'I' with honest and strong will. Good luck

He was regarded as a pioneer then because most gurus were hardcore traditional with strict cultural baggage. While Osho attracted local and foreign crowd alike as he set no pre-condition or moral judgment before entering spirituality. Another upside is he had a diverse set of spiritual practices depending on the conditioning and preference. But his core practice was detached witnessing in all situation. All other practices targeted to reach there in one way or another. Among the books i've read, most were poetic and unnecessarily elaborated. But the book "meditation:the first and last freedom" is a gem. If you decide to read just one book of osho, i'd definitely recommend that one.

1) He has some great writings in some books 2) he brought spirutuality in mainstream and exposed many traditional dogmas. 3) he loved fucking with peoples cherished beliefs. With all that being said, i admit that his videoes sucked ass big time. Never managed to completely watch even one

Proof that God fucks up so that it can unfuck the situation!

Your lousy weiner doesn't have the necessary discrimination to distinguish the real from the unreal. Make him do self inquiry 5 hours a day!

Always a pleasure to see 2 stickman dancing huh?

I dont have any money. I live in moms basement and she feeds me

Because infinite intelligence found you more beautiful with hair and bon bon earrings!

@Dodo oh the human being! Such a pernicious ghost with so many demands yet it wont show itself. Such herculean effort for that which isn't even there

God is just sustaining his own 'perfectest' creations And even God needs a holiday at least once a month ffs!!!

Good observation. Now I challenge you to find that 'I' thats gonna be homeless soon. 1)What exactly is it that will live in the streets? 2) will the sensations of your body live in the streets? How old are those sensations? Can they talk? Do they become rich or poor? 3) Is the thought "I'm gonna be homeless" live in the street? 4) do those sensations or even the thoughts call themselves 'I'? Do they even have consciousness in the first place? 5) then what is it in you that is calling itself 'I'? 6) The reaction/sensation that is rising against this coldhearted bastard called Preetom, does that reaction have a voice? Did that reaction born 30 years ago, made choices in life, have preferences and judgements? 7) What 'I' is really gonna end up in the streets? I hope you help out that poor fella called 'I' who is in a preacrious situation now, Dodo

Good things end in death

Uuuff always entertaining to see science rehashing the same old mystical scriptures when failing to figure out shit and acting as if they've made some ground breaking claim

Dodo what exactly do you call 'I'? You have such conviction about the I. You must have very precise knowledge about I.

Birth, delusion, growth, decay, death, transfiguration, rebirth...you'll through stages. Hang in there @thesmileyone

The thing with theory or model is that it is never your 'own'. Its a hodge podge. Steal from one guy thats call copying. Steal from 100 guys, thats called research/innovation. Ego banking off of egos

This stuff right here needs to be looked at a lot more. Thanks for bringing this up Michael. We still don't nearly appreciate how much our knowledge barriers are set depending on the state we are in. Inside the dream, everything feels real. This ability of the mind to project its own limitation and deluding itself so hard sinultaneously is just astonishing.

That sounds like the epitome of the path to devilry

I now mostly watch like a dozen selected videos from 2016-17 era. They were pure gold! I haven't found most of the recent videos that Illuminating or helpful for learning experience. At this point Its safe to say that I can guess whats he is gonna say next most of the time lol. But I guess this predicament shows my own limitation more. And regarding journaling, my inquiry these days have been more visceral, subtle ques and non-verbal level than on the thought level. Exploring the vague me-feelings in the body.The theory stuff have become so ingrained that it feels dry and boring.

He has a video called ALL OF REALITY UNDERSTOOD probably 2-3 years back while he was on Al-Lad (If I remember correctly). Then the 5-meo breakthrough video dates even back. Yes we get his point that he is having more and more deeper realization of the same elephant. But at this point, this has become overused and redundant. If he has another 30 5-meo dose everyday for the whole month of April, he would feel every awakening more deeper and profound than all other realizations, teachers and everything. He literally could drown in the self-gloating for the rest of his life in this manner. Now I'm sure there will always be audience for that like how people worship superstars doing v-logs or watching others playing video games on twitch instead of living and experiencing those life elements themselves. But it would kill the core value upon which Actualized. org was made. That was to remind us of this work and slowly introducing to us to a life other than we conventioanlly know it(at least that's what he preached). But the self-gloating claims and state chasings are getting noxious now. I wish he stops talking about his own ''grander and grander'' spiritual experiences, until he reaches the abiding no-self realization which he calls awakening. hey he has figured out it all anyway! Right? And instead talk more about practical strategies of enlightenment once a week, bi monthly or once a month depending on how much he wants to focus on the quality and research

Some of the things I found sort of disheartening are 1) the claims of being the most advanced mofo alive..over and over and over...over the years 2) doubting and belittling the teachers who taught you this thing piece by piece in the first place 3) so much conviction behind the claims after each 'state' which eventually contradicts itself down the line Nothing personal about Leo but noticing these exact deluded patterns within me, they are like immediate red flags. We've all been there. After a glorious meditation sit, you feel like the king of the world. The ego-mind comes back to distort whatever clarity was there. Even Leo himself said that the true mark of a genuine master is humility. Repeating after key-elements, Leo does sound redundant now. A madman with some same old learnt lines on repeat. I have a mild guess that few dozen people could even talk like Leo now lol Another thing that really grabbed my attention which @Garuda asked in some other thread about what's the common ground in all of spirituality in spite of all the disagreements and bickering. Well it obviously has 2 fold sides 1) Completely seeing through the illusion of the separate ego-mind so that it can't distort what is 2) living the ramification of that realization intellectually, emotionally, physically, interpersonally moment to moment There is no spirituality without this element. There can be and always will be disagreement and bickering with notions like God, other metaphysical theories and hypotheses, creation theory, path, teachers etc. But the no-self/true self realization is like ground upon which rest of the redundant stuff lies upon. In a sense, no-self/true self realization is the beginning and ending of spirituality. The rest of the delusion and disagreement lies in between. But it seems Leo is flying so high, he sort of has a disparaging view towards it. When Leo told in the final moments of the latest video that he still doesn't have abiding no-self realization, it literally felt like a first grade kid whose job is to master that 1st grade stuff, but who dreams about attending first year college every night after having few drinks(no pun intended), and then next day belittles the actual 6th and 7th graders for not being in the college. I hope Leo does continue to talk about enlightenment, make more guided meditations, talk more about techniques and pitfalls in a more refined manner based on his personal experiences, motivating mystical stories(those he has come across through research), talk about other meta stuff like self-deception, epistemology, limit of knowledge(absolutely gorgeous stuff!), other topics and some real talk/rant once in a while. But this circle-jerk and gloating is becoming redundant and honestly boring. The claims about absolute have been made so many times and contradicted so many times that shit ain't even entertaining anymore. As his regular viewer, just my personal comment. I know he doesn't take a cent from me to make this stuff, so at the end of the day it's his choice. I'll just leave it here.