Preetom

The fool who 'knows' his folly eventually ceases to be a fool ?

Sounds like a cool sci fi proposition; but alas, can't even survive even a minute of serious thought or inquiry. Find out if the notions of of something controlling other things, manipulating reality etc are valid in the first place. Even in lucid dreams

Good karma and tendencies from past lives. Then right environment+training in present birth.

What is bot to the ignorant, is god to the wise. What is god to the ignorant, is bot to the wise. ?

1) Focus and intent. This is it. Like an athlete or artist spends 10+ hours a day in their craft, the sage's craft is a poised, relaxed, unbroken focus. Focus on WHAT? Thats the paradox of sage. Focus on developing focus. With that godly focus, the sage does absolutely nothing; yet nothing remains undone. 2) Progressive psychological and physical minimalism. In other words, away from all things of man. The sage is not conditioned or controlled by any human thought at any time. 3) contemplating the nature of knowledge, seeing its limitation and transcending knowledge once and for all. Bonus: raising an orphan baby found on streets ??

A hahaha hahaha ?

Or are they exactly the same video games? ? dont worry, for people lacking the capacity or willingness to exercise the higher lines of philosophical inquiries; there are tons of progressive creation stories like big bang, flat earth, 5k years old genesis earth, universe being created from excess fat and ear jams of demons from Hindu mythologies etc to buy into and stay comfortable. Whatever floats your boat.

Super power to children believing in fairy tales. But Natural state for adults. Just like walking is a super power from the perspective of a toddler or cripple who can't walk.

Be open minded enough to allow other's close mindedness ?

Time and space are both simultaneously the container mechanism which makes duality possible and also thus part of duality. Like an operating system is the container which enables a functional computer and also a part of the computer. This is why time and space can be looked at as container dimensions as opposed to phenomenal dimensions like color, shape, sound, taste etc.

Thank you for the notice imaginary padre

@TDW1995 The purpose of self inquiry is to pierce through the delusion of considering the self as body or a thing. So whatever doubts you have, you need to push further until the mechanism of identifying the self with a thing is gone once and for all. You are already doing the process the process as you see more and more that anything you can know or focus on can't be you.

Try to notice it for next several times just after you wake up. Its clearly obvious when you have one of those dozing nap sessions where you wake up several times and fall back asleep again. The body consciousness comes first. AFTER that, comes the package of memories, personality, perception, time etc. In this way, you can verify the philosophy Ramana Maharshi expouded on the nature of ego. The body consciousness is simultaneously projected and taken as I, the ego. And the whole universe and knowledge come after that; as further projections happening in and through this body consciousness. All attachment, emotions, fear, delusion, knowledge, suffering are stored in this body consciousness aka the primal ego aka the poisoned apple aka this spurious limited self consciousness aka the devil.

We cannot make a category error by conflating subjective-objective perspectives. There are several ways of looking at this. From purely experiential view, there is no body outside body consciousness. That means every night you fall asleep, your body is completely gone. It has no intelligence and nothing is happening behind the scenes. The sense ''I have a body and so and so" comes AFTER waking up along with the body consciousness. From this view, body consciousness has nothing to do with the form of the body. After all, its not possible to say you have 2 legs, 2 arms, brain, heart etc from body consciousness. That model of human body comes from objective appearance. On the other hand, you could say there is relationship between subjective body consciousness and the material body. Just like a healthy brain will look different than a brain which suffered multiple concussions. Also the material body doesn't have any individual intelligence per se. Its merely governed by the laws of mature it finds itself into. Just like your body might function differently in different dreams having different physical laws. My point is this body consciousness is the heart of ego. It is the only ego there is. Without this body consciousness being present first, there is no perception or anything.

Body consciousness= the experience of having a body/being located/having weight/being aware of a localized, visceral sensation. Have you noticed that the body consciousness dictates the perception of the world? when body consciousness is more solid, localized, heavy; the world appears as more and more materialistic/solid with fixed physical laws and boundaries. when body consciousness is subtle or vague( like in dreams or by meditation) the world perception appears more fluid and less and less matter like. again this body consciousness has nothing to do with the external appearance of the body

The appearance of body is in mind. What I am talking about is body consciousness which I guess you are labeling as mind.

These may not be the best examples as all such discussion is mere idle intellectualization which leads nowhere near actuality. As spark ignites around a raging flame, waves appear on ocean, galaxies float on vast space; similarly thoughts and universe appear from the infinitude of consciousness. In other words, thoughts are mere tiny shadow appearance of consciousness.

Yes! Its not really a search for something in front of you, but towards yourself.

With new age vegan propagandas like god is love. And on the other hand, using christian/religious shaming and ostracizing everyone as devils if they don't conform to the propaganda.

1)Notice that 2)untangle your attention 3) reorient towards the search anew

Exactly. The sooner this is understood the better. Better not have such expectation at all. The sole purpose of self inquiry is to know what you really are. Whatever comes with it, will come; whatever goes with it, will go. All shit will break loose eventually if one progresses with self inquiry. The key is to be indifferent to all that changing phenomena and keenly holding on to oneself. Self inquiry is not about peace, love, bliss etc. Its the antithesis of all that. If you want peace stop doing self inquiry and eat some good food, sleep in a comfy bed, bond with people and animals, take up Mello fulfilling habits, appreciate fine arts, join spiritual community and sat sang etc. But if you wanna know who, what, when, how you are; self inquiry is da wae

If it makes you uncomfortable thats a sure sign its working. There is no other way but to go through all these blows and discomforts. Two weeks is just the starting. You'll go through hell and back when this process is over, that is when you permanently stop treating the body as I and get firmly established in contentless Comsciouness. If you are able to do that of course. It will take the greatest courage and mental strength you can ever muster up. Stay strong

@Patrick Lynam Enlightenment is the ultimate uselessness and meaninglessness. What can you do with no thing? Nothing. Enlightened or not, life is completely meaningless and thus a game of make believe. But when you're enlightened you can cope with meaninglessness as it can't be any other way

So stuck up in his spiritual costume for decades. No wonder spiritual people almost never wake the f*ck up ?

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